Player Watch Jordan De Goey

[Mollythedolly]

Can anyone explain why we had to make it public knowledge that we’ve taken JDG’s contract offer off the table?
I think we may have just created a rod for our backs if true.
JDG will most likely be signed/sealed and delivered elsewhere by end of season by all reports, which is when we intend on restarting our negotiations.
FM we are F if this plays out to be true and not serious enough about winning flags.

Was it the club or someone within the JDG camp?

 

[76woodenspooners]

This is just getting beyond simply being PC and is entering the realms of absurdity. If the video made by Q and G is so offensive and disrespectful to the dignity of people that it requires removing and public apologies, then we have entered a very bland, dull and sanitised period of history from which I would prefer to opt out.

Tempora mutantur, nos et mutamur in illis

(The times have changed, we have changed with them)

Think of the society you grew up in: Corporal punishment in the classroom, Workers smoked at their desks. Soft pr0n hung up in the office. Women had the career choice of being nurses, teachers, working in the typing pool, or wheeling the tea trolley around mid morning and mid afternoon. People drove home from the pub pissed. Shops closed in the middle of the day on a Saturday. Half the stuff they showed on the telly would not be allowed to be broadcast today.

Every one of those things (and many more) was argued bitterly over for and against.

Some things actually did become short lived fads. (Curious to see that the force of a significant pandemic wasn’t able to replace the custom of the handshake with the touching elbows thing). Other things do change society.

Yeah, we can argue that there were good reason for those things to change. But that’s with the benefit of hindsight and within the framework of today’s society.

Sometime in the future, maybe we will look back on today and appreciate that the things we fought against needed to change? Or maybe we will be old farts grumbling about how things were so much better in the good old days?

We can’t stop the passing of time. But we can choose to stay relevant. Fight the good fight when it is needed, but when we lose, accept it and even consider embracing it.

We are living organisms, but the greater society that we are a part of is also a living organism. That living organism of society is trying to survive and thrive, it is evolving and adapting. And anybody who is not contributing to that will be simply cast off like the flakes of dead skin cells that fall from our own bodies.

 

[76woodenspooners]

JDG will most likely be signed/sealed and delivered elsewhere by end of season by all reports, which is when we intend on restarting our negotiations.
FM we are F if this plays out to be true and not serious enough about winning flags.

Meh, if he goes or if he stays, it’ll be because we are serious about winning flags.

Buckley left Brisbane, Franklin left Hawthorn, Ryan Griffen left Bulldogs. None of those seem to hurt their clubs chances of winning Premierships.

No one player is bigger than the collective.

 

[ColinMochrie]

Can anyone explain why we had to make it public knowledge that we’ve taken JDG’s contract offer off the table?
I think we may have just created a rod for our backs if true.
JDG will most likely be signed/sealed and delivered elsewhere by end of season by all reports, which is when we intend on restarting our negotiations.
FM we are F if this plays out to be true and not serious enough about winning flags.

I don't see DeGoey anywhere near his best by the time we are challenging again. His best is behind him.
He will be going on 30 by the time we are anywhere near challenging.

To be honest he hasn't even been that good since 2018/2019. He has his moments but is never going to be consistent. I wouldn't be upset unloading him and having some space in the salary cap again.

He is a star in a good team, but when the team isn't there to support him he doesn't have it in him to be the leader and win games off his own boot.

Would be happy to keep him, but don't want to pay overs for a player that, let's face it, isn't even really committed to professional sport.

He is the Nick Kyrgios of AFL.

 

[jimmy35]

Me too, but it’s going to rain all week!

Yes. That’s literally put a dampener on it. Won’t be cold though thankfully.

 

[Jim Levenstein]

Yes. That’s literally put a dampener on it. Won’t be cold though thankfully.

You cannot be serious. This has been our coldest winter I can recall on the coast

 

[jimmy35]

Maybe try chess instead.

And you’ll never forget the first time he beats you.

 

[jmac70]

I don't see DeGoey anywhere near his best by the time we are challenging again. His best is behind him.
He will be going on 30 by the time we are anywhere near challenging.

To be honest he hasn't even been that good since 2018/2019. He has his moments but is never going to be consistent. I wouldn't be upset unloading him and having some space in the salary cap again.

He is a star in a good team, but when the team isn't there to support him he doesn't have it in him to be the leader and win games off his own boot.

Would be happy to keep him, but don't want to pay overs for a player that, let's face it, isn't even really committed to professional sport.

He is the Nick Kyrgios of AFL.

We are challenging now.

 

[jimmy35]

You cannot be serious. This has been our coldest winter I can recall on the coast

It only feels cold to you acclimatized folk. For us southerners it still feel warm. Takes about 3 years.
Mate moved up there years ago and laughed at people playing golf with jumpers on in the winter when he was in short sleeves, 3 years later he was in a jumper

 

[MyManLynch]

Meh, if he goes or if he stays, it’ll be because we are serious about winning flags.

Buckley left Brisbane, Franklin left Hawthorn, Ryan Griffen left Bulldogs. None of those seem to hurt their clubs chances of winning Premierships.

No one player is bigger than the collective.

Don’t think it’s a reasonable comparison. Our current list with Brisbane early 2000’s or Hawks mid teens.
Both Clubs had elite players most parts of ground…with incredible depth.
Collingwood 2022 is not Brisbane 2001-2003 or Hawks 2013-2015.
Hence losing a player of JDG quality would have a much greater impact.

 

[jimmy35]

He’ll stay.

 

[MyManLynch]

Nick Daicos was captured on Jack Crisps instagram story today giving him the finger.

Where's my lynch mob at?

Why hasn’t Wreck it Ralph reported that?

 

[MyManLynch]

He’ll stay.

I hope so…
I just wonder what GW position is now…

 

[MyManLynch]

I don't see DeGoey anywhere near his best by the time we are challenging again. His best is behind him.
He will be going on 30 by the time we are anywhere near challenging.

To be honest he hasn't even been that good since 2018/2019. He has his moments but is never going to be consistent. I wouldn't be upset unloading him and having some space in the salary cap again.

He is a star in a good team, but when the team isn't there to support him he doesn't have it in him to be the leader and win games off his own boot.

Would be happy to keep him, but don't want to pay overs for a player that, let's face it, isn't even really committed to professional sport.

He is the Nick Kyrgios of AFL.

He can also be a match winner & drag us over the line.

 

[MyManLynch]

Could just as easily fit in this thread as any other. Kid at Collingwood Clinic.

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Was that ‘no choice’ but to follow Collingwood or ‘no choice’ but to eat KFC

 

[NMBB]

If it reduced mine by that much I'd end up with an IQ of -6.

Average Mod score? ..... hug's - you knew that anyway...

 

[Maggie5]

I don't see DeGoey anywhere near his best by the time we are challenging again. His best is behind him.
He will be going on 30 by the time we are anywhere near challenging.

To be honest he hasn't even been that good since 2018/2019. He has his moments but is never going to be consistent. I wouldn't be upset unloading him and having some space in the salary cap again.

He is a star in a good team, but when the team isn't there to support him he doesn't have it in him to be the leader and win games off his own boot.

Would be happy to keep him, but don't want to pay overs for a player that, let's face it, isn't even really committed to professional sport.

He is the Nick Kyrgios of AFL.

Well said. I did like the reference of Nick Kyrgios last seen spitting at the crowd. Definitely not a good look.

 

[sideswipe]

I don't see DeGoey anywhere near his best by the time we are challenging again. His best is behind him.
He will be going on 30 by the time we are anywhere near challenging.

To be honest he hasn't even been that good since 2018/2019. He has his moments but is never going to be consistent. I wouldn't be upset unloading him and having some space in the salary cap again.

He is a star in a good team, but when the team isn't there to support him he doesn't have it in him to be the leader and win games off his own boot.

Would be happy to keep him, but don't want to pay overs for a player that, let's face it, isn't even really committed to professional sport.

He is the Nick Kyrgios of AFL.

Lack of commitment? Basing that on his Bali trip or something else? Getting on the sauce whilst on mid-season break is pretty standard. He is in great condition atm. Check out his visible superficial temporal vein. Good amateur’s sign he is running lean.

Comparing him to Kyrgios? Well, makes me wonder if you barrack for Collingwood.

He has been excellent for us this year - and the second half of last season. And he hopefully will be again on the Goldy.


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[TheGreatGrundy]

Tempora mutantur, nos et mutamur in illis

(The times have changed, we have changed with them)

Think of the society you grew up in: Corporal punishment in the classroom, Workers smoked at their desks. Soft pr0n hung up in the office. Women had the career choice of being nurses, teachers, working in the typing pool, or wheeling the tea trolley around mid morning and mid afternoon. People drove home from the pub pissed. Shops closed in the middle of the day on a Saturday. Half the stuff they showed on the telly would not be allowed to be broadcast today.

Every one of those things (and much more) was argued bitterly over for and against.

Some things actually did become short lived fads. (Curious to see that the force of a significant pandemic wasn’t able to replace the custom of the handshake with the touching elbows thing). Other things do change society.

Yeah, we can argue that there were good reason for those things to change. But that’s with the benefit of hindsight and within the framework of today’s society.

Sometime in the future, maybe we will look back on today and appreciate that the things we fought against needed to change? Or maybe we will be old farts grumbling about how things were so much better in the good old days?

We can’t stop the passing of time. But we can choose to stay relevant. Fight the good fight when it is needed, but when we lose, accept it and even consider embracing it.

We are living organisms, but the greater society that we are a part of is also a living organism. That living organism of society is trying to survive and thrive, it is evolving and adapting. And anybody who is not contributing to that will be simply cast off like the flakes of dead skin cells that fall from our own bodies.

You are probably correct and I am most likely beginning to resemble the flake of dead skin to be brushed off the body. I accept that some change in attitude had to occur, some of which I had already absorbed as part and parcel of living a life, such as a natural acceptance of the LGBTIQ+ (minus perhaps the non-binary and I bits). But some elements of this change leave me cold, particularly the censorship or banning of shows I loved, given that my own humour has been based around 'taking the piss out of others and myself. The British were famous for being able to laugh at themselves, but increasingly we are being denied the right to laugh at others. Perhaps the time will come when it's even frowned upon to laugh at ourselves.

The outcry on here regarding the reaction to De Goey's action and more particularly the Q and G video suggests to me that there is still a large percentage of the population who are out of step with changing attitudes. In fact, I would guess that only a small minority of posters supported the clubs actions against the players, particularly Q and G. There was even criticism that the AFLW team flew under the moral radar despite exhibiting behaviour similar to that of the three footballers. Lots of people have not been swept up and carried by the move to sanitise speech and behaviour. The media are certainly on board the change train, probably partly because they have to be in order to retain a job or appear relevant.

There are increasingly issues which seem to have been closed for public discussion because people from certain groups e.g. indigenous people and women own 'a truth' which precludes non members of those groups from commenting on their situations. Perhaps Lisa Wilkinson, when she gave the speech that caused the trial postponement, believed that society had already accepted the truth of Brittany Higgins' claim simply because she was a woman and the guilt of the accused rapists because he was male.

I find it's getting harder to stay relevant and do feel somewhat marginalised being forced to believe and support certain changes being bulldozed through society. We have complained for years that footballers have lost the right to be characters and are impressed when someone like Ginnivan breaks the mold and ignores current behavioural conventions, acting as an individual rather than adhering to the AFL's ideal of how every player should publicly speak and act. We find his behaviour refreshing which suggests we don't truly support the automated 'one week at a time' 'did it for the boys' responses, as though everyone is reading from the same cue cards.

But your reading of the waves of changes sweeping the western world, and in particular, good old PC Australia, are correct, and I accept that I am the one with the problem now, not society. I guess when you have a long experience with life, you tend to feel you have earned the right to an opinion and beliefs. Those soldiers who fought against the Japanese during the 2nd WW and witnessed first hand their cruelty formed an opinion of the Japanese as a race based on their experience, and who could truly blame them. Experience is probably the ultimate form of education and views formed in this way are not going to be altered by those who did not share time with you in a tropical POW camp watching your mates die from beatings, summary executions, overwork or exotic diseases. Some prejudices/beliefs are so ingrained that only death will bring an end to them.

 

[Dead Eye Didak]

Heard Kane Cornes

Kane Cornes

Age

42

Ht

183cm

Wt

78kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

23.5

5star

K

12.5

5star

HB

11.0

5star

M

5.2

5star

T

3.3

5star

CL

2.6

4star

No current season stats available

D

13.0

4star

K

7.6

3star

HB

5.4

4star

M

3.0

3star

T

1.2

3star

again say DeGoey will end up at Geelong this morning, for the tenth time this week. He keeps saying Geelong will get him, because they can get him for nothing as well.
Is he aware that JDG is a restricted free agent, and the Pies can match the offer to force a trade? Considering Kingy reckons a club will offer him around $750k a year, well we already trumped that with our $800k a year offer, lol....
Seriously all the comments coming from Cornes and Co. is just clickbait stuff, because they know he just doesn't walk out off Collingwood for free, but they won't say that because it doesn't fit the narrative.....

 

[MyManLynch]

Heard Kane Cornes again say DeGoey will end up at Geelong this morning, for the tenth time this week. He keeps saying Geelong will get him, because they can get him for nothing as well.
Is he aware that JDG is a restricted free agent, and the Pies can match the offer to force a trade? Considering Kingy reckons a club will offer him around $750k a year, well we already trumped that with our $800k a year offer, lol....
Seriously all the comments coming from Cornes and Co. is just clickbait stuff, because they know he just doesn't walk out off Collingwood for free, but they won't say that because it doesn't fit the narrative.....

Nobody really knows except for JDG/Manager & Club.

 

[jmac70]

Heard Kane Cornes again say DeGoey will end up at Geelong this morning, for the tenth time this week. He keeps saying Geelong will get him, because they can get him for nothing as well.
Is he aware that JDG is a restricted free agent, and the Pies can match the offer to force a trade? Considering Kingy reckons a club will offer him around $750k a year, well we already trumped that with our $800k a year offer, lol....
Seriously all the comments coming from Cornes and Co. is just clickbait stuff, because they know he just doesn't walk out off Collingwood for free, but they won't say that because it doesn't fit the narrative.....

Kane makes pigeons seem intelligent.

 

[MyManLynch]

Kane makes pigeons seem intelligent.

Some Pigeons are smart…

 

[jathanas]

Lack of commitment? Basing that on his Bali trip or something else? Getting on the sauce whilst on mid-season break is pretty standard. He is in great condition atm. Check out his visible superficial temporal vein. Good amateur’s sign he is running lean.

Comparing him to Kyrgios? Well, makes me wonder if you barrack for Collingwood.

He has been excellent for us this year - and the second half of last season. And he hopefully will be again on the Goldy.


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I want him to stay and think it's very important that this happens for a number of reasons.

I get what people say about JDG not really hitting his ceiling but he is unique to us.

The closest we have is Elliot but only in the forward line. He would leave a hole that isn't easy to replace with kind.

The other angle is that I like stories with happy endings. I want to believe that the club was able to keep Jordy and help him because it's a good place to belong to.

 

[NMBB]

I want him to stay and think it's very important that this happens for a number of reasons.

I get what people say about JDG not really hitting his ceiling but he is unique to us.

The closest we have is Elliot but only in the forward line. He would leave a hole that isn't easy to replace with kind.

The other angle is that I like stories with happy endings. I want to believe that the club was able to keep Jordy and help him because it's a good place to belong to.

A la Geelong and Stengle