Bluemour 'Silly Season' Edition XXXIV

[windows1]

Would 10 and Setterfield get us pick 4? Would both clubs do it?

Not a hope in hell

 

[windows1]

I wonder how much they want Setterfield? He would be good for them, he gives them an inside midfielder who brings physicality and tackling pressure, he sort of came good for us the last few rounds so it counts for something. Reckon Bombers and Dodoro are under a lot of pressure to get results, fans are screaming out for an inside midfielder. They would not want to walk away with nothing.

On the flip side he has a fair bit of value to us for the reasons I have mentioned but not to the point where we would not let him go but only for our own advantage.

It's an interesting trade, the guy is not a star but he has value for both sides.

It begs the question, if the tables were turned, what would Essendon be demanding for a player who finished the season like Setterfield had?

They’re going to get him for a bag of chips. We all need to accept that and move on. He’s not contracted and they have an early PSD pick.

 

[HavUEvaSeenTheRain]

I don’t really get the need, Shezeel isn’t at the top of any draft board I’ve seen, I’ve constantly read that after 5 the draft is very even and next years draft is strong.

So why would you trade out of next years 1st round to get a player ranked 2 or 3 in a draft year that’s supposedly weak?

Shezeel would not only need to be better than the player we would take at pick 10, he would also need to be better than the player we take next year at pick (hopefully 18)

In terms of probabilities, it doesn’t stack up to me

I guess the club could see the top 5 as elite and the next batch as average. So 5 (Sheezel) as elite and whoever is available at pick 10 as abit meh.
We may also think he fits a need perfectly and everyone else who will be available isn’t a need or we don’t rate.

 

[El Topo]

I don’t really get the need, Shezeel isn’t at the top of any draft board I’ve seen, I’ve constantly read that after 5 the draft is very even and next years draft is strong.

So why would you trade out of next years 1st round to get a player ranked 2 or 3 in a draft year that’s supposedly weak?

Shezeel would not only need to be better than the player we would take at pick 10, he would also need to be better than the player we take next year at pick (hopefully 18)

In terms of probabilities, it doesn’t stack up to me

2019 draft wasn't rated as elite when Melbourne went all out for Jackson - and they'd missed finals that year by a bee's dick much like us.

 

[GT619]

fo’ shizzle

You been watching too much wwe/dx

 

[GT619]

We are like a kid in a candy store on here. As soon as an ITK says we want to trade up for a particular draft prospect, we must have him at all costs

It's what we do best on here. You got us all up and about

 

[DangerousD]

I think you have answered it yourself. This draft is seen as weak, and maybe the Club feels we need to be top 5, to avoid the lottery. Maybe we feel that #10 this year is not good value (relative to #10 most years).

Forty3's trade would leave us with a pair of F2's for next year... which might be where we want to be, if we are contemplating a father-son Camporeale or two. I think it gives us a bit of flexibility either way, because even if we don't want Camporeale(s), we can presumably sell the pair of F2's to someone else who needs points, and get back into next year's first round that way. EDIT: Camporeales are 2024, forget this!

And that's assuming we don't build any trade currency (for extra picks) of our own during the course of 2023. (This has been a major impediment to us doing much this year; Setterfield represents the sum total of outside interest in our non-marquee players).

I don't love Forty3's hypothetical; I would personally prefer to keep Setterfield, but it sounds like he is more than halfway out the door. If that's the case, I absolutely agree with rolling him into something that is going to materially help us.

The chat this year even regarding the top 5 does not fill me with much confidence, Wardlaw has serious injury issues already, Humphrey can’t kick and has no tank, Ashcroft is tied to the Lions, then people seem torn on both Tsatas and Philpou.

Shezeel seems popular because he fits a real need, I’m not saying I don’t like him, trading two first round picks essentially, is too dangerous for me. Over the next two seasons I’d rather multiple first round picks, instead of one top 5 pick

Regardless of my thoughts, a lot will change in the 6 weeks before the draft

 

[AndyLucimitis]

I want Sheezal, just for the name. Sounds like a fan fav already

Admit it - anyone over 40 would immediately think of this:

 

[Funk]

Wonder if we could get Nick Haynes cheaply ?
Good solid player who would definitely fill a need for us.

Hope this a joke????

If not - it’s an extremely uninformed comment.

GWS are interested in moving Haynes on because his contract is around $1million per year.

Would be the dumbest move we could possible make.

 

[DangerousD]

2019 draft wasn't rated as elite when Melbourne went all out for Jackson - and they'd missed finals that year by a bee's dick much like us.

Im sure if you look hard enough you will find a time or two it has come off for a club, without googling it, I think we could have got Serong or Young, had we not traded our future 1st for Stocker, so it’s not just about this draft, we are actually trading oit of the 1st round next year, of course next year is a super draft.

I will back in what we do and in 4-5 years we will,know if it’s right or wrong.

 

[BrisbaneCFC]

Agree with everything except Martin in that role. He is far too good overhead and more suited to a ‘taller’ role rather than bursting out of packs.

Zac Williams has all the attributes to play this role but I’m not sure he’ll be moved from defence, or if his body is up to it. Durdin has the foot skills but not sure he’s fit enough to be another Boomer Harvey.

Think Jack Martin should play out of the goalsquare

 

[RoyalBlues]

They’re going to get him for a bag of chips. We all need to accept that and move on. He’s not contracted and they have an early PSD pick.

In a BigFooty exclusive, I’ve located those chips!

 

[BrisbaneCFC]

Pick 10 + F1 (13?) probably gets us to the pick 5-6 range which I still think is too late for Sheezel. But even if he was still available then I'm not really a fan of trading away a F1st just to climb up the draft order, especially for a team like us who's contending.

I wouldn't do that, but Id do our future 1st, and maybe our second rounder this year to get 7 from Geelong and go inro the draft with 7 and 10 and change.

 

[Foucault1989]

The chat this year even regarding the top 5 does not fill me with much confidence, Wardlaw has serious injury issues already, Humphrey can’t kick and has no tank, Ashcroft is tied to the Lions, then people seem torn on both Tsatas and Philpou.

Shezeel seems popular because he fits a real need, I’m not saying I don’t like him, trading two first round picks essentially, is too dangerous for me. Over the next two seasons I’d rather multiple first round picks, instead of one top 5 pick

Regardless of my thoughts, a lot will change in the 6 weeks before the draft

I agree. History had shown us that the grass is not always greener on the other side. We traded a future 1st for Stocker. Ended up with Stocker, Kemp and Philip. Could have had Serong if we just kept our pick. Let's not overcomplicate things and get too fancy.

Sheezel is a talent. No question. But we cannot afford to take a massive risk for a flashy half forward yet to play an AFL game.

 

[BrisbaneCFC]

I wouldn't give up pick 10 and a future 1st to get pick 3

Nup, me either.

 

[Foucault1989]

Think Jack Martin should play out of the goalsquare

Not against this idea. He would be a hard match up because he is physically strong and a good mark. He'd be dangerous one out.

 

[SOSage Mcgovern]

2019 draft wasn't rated as elite when Melbourne went all out for Jackson - and they'd missed finals that year by a bee's dick much like us.

They finished 17th that year and they used pick 3 on him after gold coast had pick 1 (priority pick) and pick 2. They moved their first rounder forward a year to grab pickett at 12

 

[FilthyRon]

Re Setters. I think we just try and improve our picks. Setters, 49 and 66 for 42 would be win/win I think.

 

[TENACIOUS]

Not sure I'd give up a top 10 pick + a F1 on a whim...

The rumour makes no sense to happen in trade week...
If it was going to happen it would be on draft night, when we were a certainty to get him...

Would have thought our time would have been better served trying to upgrade our draft hand...

 

[Sickblue]

Re Setters. I think we just try and improve our picks. Setters, 49 and 66 for 42 would be win/win I think.

agree, feel this is the most likely outcome and we could then use 49 and future second to get another early ish pick in, say around 20.
Going in with something like 10, 20 and 28 would be a great result in an even draft. I’d imagine we will only take 3 picks so having them all before 30 would be an outstanding result along with the acquisition of Acres.

 

[CJMB]

I agree. History had shown us that the grass is not always greener on the other side. We traded a future 1st for Stocker. Ended up with Stocker, Kemp and Philip. Could have had Serong if we just kept our pick. Let's not overcomplicate things and get too fancy.

Sheezel is a talent. No question. But we cannot afford to take a massive risk for a flashy half forward yet to play an AFL game.

On the night Serrong went the pick before ours, we bid on Henry and Green then split ours to take Kemp & Philp.

Going a year back, when we live traded to get stocker, that’s a bit of a different story. Ash, Stephens & Young still on the table, as well as Serrong. But that ship had sailed long before…

 

[Blue_Fusion]

Not against this idea. He would be a hard match up because he is physically strong and a good mark. He'd be dangerous one out.

Yeah for a game or two every 6 weeks...

 

[SurreyBlue]

They’re going to get him for a bag of chips. We all need to accept that and move on. He’s not contracted and they have an early PSD pick.

IMO, there would only be one reason this would happen.
Setterfield feels unwanted and let down and will not do anything to assist us in getting the best deal.
If that is the situation, then again, we have failed.

 

[Bryce Bubbles]

Package up Dow and Setterfield and 3rd Rounder to get a Top 5 pick this draft.

Get it done Austin.

Don't we need them as part of the bont trade?

 

[KohPhi]

Don't we need them as part of the bont trade?