Fixture 2024 Official Fixture Whinge

[Ned Ryerson]

Draw just made our future 1st pick a little more valuable.

 

[LRobbo]

They won't be complaining if we give them a beat down at the Cattery. Be absolute gold.

Agreed, fully expecting them to be bottom 6 this year.
It’ll be glorious

 

[TazHawk15]

That’s why it’s called a FIXture.

 

[Ned Ryerson]

Benefit of no Friday nights is that we have no 5 day breaks. Every round we get a 6 day break at least. Our only trip to Perth comes after a bye. Away trips to Adelaide aren't all that taxing and we don't play that badly at the AO. But apparently our fixture dooms us. Okay, sure.

 

[Mitchell Madness]

Melbourne, Geelong, Sydney, Collingwood and Richmond all at the G is dud? Likely replacement games versus Carlton, Richmond and the Druggers. Possibly the best home/MCG fixture we have had for a long while.

Melbourne game won't get over 40k
Cats is good for the coffers
Swans is the Sunday twilight - dud game
Pies will rate
We never get great crowds vs the tigs (this yr was the first time we've drawn over 50k vs them)

It is not a great fixture for the club. It isn't going to sell corporate spaces. A lot will be on secondary channels which limits advertising potential.

The replacement games benefit the opposition, not us. Most you also need to upgrade your seats these days too

 

[A Diakos]

Again zero Thursday and Friday night games

We must have a fair share and 3/4 per year otherwise it will hurt the club commercially and support base

This has been going on for years now

The board must address …a fair outcome for hawthorn

 

[kirbatron]

9 at the G vs big clubs - tick
3 at marvel - north, dogs & lions. ok.
4 UTAS - saints, GWS, freo, north. ok
Away - Pies, GC, Port, WC, Geelong, Adelaide. Yuck

Pretty tough for 16th but we embrace it because we do it the hard way.

We get the commercial draw of a 16th based team but a playing fixture of a club higher up the ladder

 

[Ned Ryerson]

Melbourne game won't get over 40k
Cats is good for the coffers
Swans is the Sunday twilight - dud game
Pies will rate
We never get great crowds vs the tigs (this yr was the first time we've drawn over 50k vs them)

It is not a great fixture for the club. It isn't going to sell corporate spaces. A lot will be on secondary channels which limits advertising potential.

The replacement games benefit the opposition, not us. Most you also need to upgrade your seats these days too

Sure - why try and look on the bright side when we can all just wallow and misery. I'll take this draw every day of the week compared to the monstrosity of this year's when I went 4-5 weeks without seeing a game at the G multiple times.

 

[Flukey!]

Not really sure how this works - doesn’t our low ladder position last season mean we’re meant to play low finishing clubs twice??
We’ve got Geelong, giants, Collingwood, Adelaide, Tiges, Norf twice

Its not terrible but admittedly not how the draw is supposed to work:

North - 17th
Richmond 13th
Geelong 12th
Adelaide 10th
GWS 7th
Pies 1st

So basically 1 team from the top 6, 3 teams from the middle 6 and two from the bottom 6.

 

[Flukey!]

Again zero Thursday and Friday night games

We must have a fair share and 3/4 per year otherwise it will hurt the club commercially and support base

This has been going on for years now

The board must address …a fair outcome for hawthorn

You know how it works.

The better performing clubs get the better time slots to maximise the TV audience and advertising revenue.
I don't agree with it, but it's the AFL funding model and the clubs accept it.

 

[kirbatron]

 

[Sixpence]

Brutal draw

Reigning premiers twice
The team they beat by 1 point in a prelim twice
Geelong and Richmond with a bunch of flags in the last few years
The fast improving Adelaide
and the Shinbeggers and their handouts.

Look at it this way:

Collingwood: A team we beat
GWS: A team we would have beaten if Jars had some more weeties
Adelaide: A team we should have beaten if the boundary ump knew where the line was
Richmond: A team we drew against and is sliding
North: A team we beat twice
Geelong: A team we beat last year and is sliding

Not the worst 6 really.

 

[Blackhawk42]

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This will be partly because we play the premiers twice. But we don't fear them at all.

 

[Dewwwww]

The last fixture with a lot of Sunday games.

I expect us to be back on Friday / Saturday nights where we belong come 2025

 

[Ned Ryerson]

Ranking the difficulty of a draw based on 2023 results is always a folly anyway. Teams will rise and slide so the true difficulty of the draw won't really be known until the end of 2024. I would rather make the finals based on a tougher draw any way - if we want this young team to be there in September then it would be better knowing they will be hardened going in rather than having a dream run then possibly getting smashed in an elimination final.

 

[Blackhawk42]

Melbourne game won't get over 40k
Cats is good for the coffers
Swans is the Sunday twilight - dud game
Pies will rate
We never get great crowds vs the tigs (this yr was the first time we've drawn over 50k vs them)

It is not a great fixture for the club. It isn't going to sell corporate spaces. A lot will be on secondary channels which limits advertising potential.

The replacement games benefit the opposition, not us. Most you also need to upgrade your seats these days too

Swans game at the G is at 4pm and doesn't overlap with any other game. All eyeballs will be on it to finish Anzac round. Actually a really good fixture that one.

Geelong in Geelong is disgusting.
Playing Brisbane at Marvel is... interesting.
Saints in Tassie will be a guaranteed win.

It's not all Doom and gloom. As somebody stated, it's a really solid MCG fixture.

 

[Suntory Boss Coffee]

Have to play at Goomba stadium too

 

[Mercy Seat]

Brutal fixture and not great commercially but for a developing side will be good experience. Hope we get a good run in 25.

 

[Sixpence]

Brisbane at Marvel is unfortunate, they play well there. It's just the G they're shit at.

 

[Ned Ryerson]

Brutal fixture and not great commercially but for a developing side will be good experience. Hope we get a good run in 25.

I don't get how it's not good commercially. A side that's finished near bottom for consecutive seasons isn't going to get many, if any, prime time games on Thursday or Friday. We have home games at the G against big Melbourne clubs and Geelong except for the game against Adelaide and Sydney who our rivalry can inflate turnout. Replacement games will likely be against Essendon, Richmond and Collingwood. Only one home game to be a Sunday twilight game at this point. It'll be the best draw we have had commercially for a long while.

 

[A Diakos]

You know how it works.

The better performing clubs get the better time slots to maximise the TV audience and advertising revenue.
I don't agree with it, but it's the AFL funding model and the clubs accept it.

I don’t know how it works

The blues collected spoons had 30k less members then that we have now and received Thursday and Friday night games

Dons and cats finished low too

Sounds like excuses to me for an unsatisfactory outcome for our club

 

[CHUBBSS]

Brisbane at Marvel is unfortunate, they play well there. It's just the G they're s**t at.

Gunston will have memorised their whole game plan

 

[Ugottabjokin]

I thought there was a system for the fixture whereby we play other teams in the bottom 4 twice. And the only 1 game against the top 4 or something like that.

 

[Ned Ryerson]

The blues collected spoons had 30k less members then that we have now and received Thursday and Friday night games

TV ratings aren't dictated by membership figures and Channel 7 will be making the call as to who plays in prime time FTA slots. There'd be a good raft of casual Carlton supporters who'd likely tune in on 7 but not be shelling out for a membership or going to the games.

 

[Topiary]

You know how it works.

The better performing clubs get the better time slots to maximise the TV audience and advertising revenue.
I don't agree with it, but it's the AFL funding model and the clubs accept it.

That said, the only way we get a night game is we have to start winning.