Certified Legendary Thread Roos lodge plans for massive Arden St upgrade

[The Nostradamus]

North are looking at anywhere from $50-80k to do that level of fencing and gates etc on what I estimate

Magoo could return to be useful as a turnstile when he is delisted

The remainder is coming from the fools who didn’t check their 2024 Membership Invoices

Fencing and grandstands is what should be built next

 

[My Left Foote]

hope we've got enough watering cans, gunna be a hot one

Who needs watering cans when you have a resident elephant.

 

[Merlin007]

Who needs watering cans when you have a resident elephant.

very good

 

[Gasometer]

Fencing and grandstands is what should be built next

It was a joke

 

[kool kangas]

With no government or council funding available, the club has officially launched the Arden Street Oval Resurfacing Campaign which will call on the generosity of key members and donors to raise the required funds.

 

[Del191229]

 

[blackshadow]

I’m sure gokangas will agree…


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[The Nostradamus]

whens this due for completion?

 

[Dan]

whens this due for completion?

Tomorrow afternoon

 

[The Nostradamus]

Tomorrow afternoon

I’ve often associated the name Dan with useless (see dan Andrews)

Thanks for reaffirming this

 

[Dan]

I’ve often associated the name Dan with useless (see dan Andrews)

Thanks for reaffirming this

That’s uncalled for

 

[giantroo]

 

[Roo316]

The hallowed turf was cursed?

 

[Luke72]

They need that second oval to take the pressure off.

 

[Merlin007]

I acknowledge not everyone's in this fortunate position, but contributions are tax deductible, so if you can do without the cash until tax time, a good opportunity to help the club

 

[Mr north man]

I acknowledge not everyone's in this fortunate position, but contributions are tax deductible, so if you can do without the cash until tax time, a good opportunity to help the club

If our club were black and white stripes we wouldn’t need the supporters $$$ plus it been a city of Melbourne assist you think they would pay for it.
But when the mayor is Sally Crap a die hard Scumwood supporter you expect nothing else

 

[joegreen]

This new suburb is due to house 20,000 more people, but will only have one school​

A new inner-city suburb expected to house up to 20,000 people will have only one public primary school, despite other campuses in the area already approaching or exceeding capacity.
Plans for the 44-hectare precinct redevelopment around the new Arden Station in Melbourne’s north so far include only one primary and no secondary schools.

Greens MP Ellen Sandell at the under-construction Arden Station.CREDIT:CHRIS HOPKINS

Greens MP Ellen Sandell says the planning is “incredibly short-sighted”, warning the government is in danger of repeating the mistakes of Docklands, which built only one primary school that quickly became insufficient for the population.
Sandell told a public accounts and estimates committee hearing on Wednesday that Arden would be a similar size to the regional city of Wangaratta, which had four public primary schools, one secondary school and a number of independent schools.

With many thousands more people also expected to move into redeveloped public housing estates in the area in the future, Sandell said it was clear one school would be “very much insufficient, very quickly”.
The Education Department’s 2022 Enrolment Pressure Index shows the closest primary school to Arden, North Melbourne Primary School, is at 92 per cent capacity.

Carlton Gardens Primary is at 119 per cent, Carlton North at 96 per cent, Kensington Primary School 85 per cent and Docklands Primary School 75 per cent.
There is some capacity at other nearby schools. Carlton Primary School is sitting at 23 per cent, Debney Meadows Primary School in Flemington is at 14 per cent and Mount Alexander 7‐12 College, also in Flemington, is at 89 per cent.


Education Department secretary Jenny Atta told the committee hearing the department would continue to monitor available capacity. She said secondary school provision across the area was a “live issue”.
“It’s important that we keep refreshing that work because those projections can change,” she said. “We’ve seen in some of the growth corridor areas that growth has exceeded what has been projected.”

Renders of the new Arden Precinct in North Melbourne, which planning authorities say will have a population of about 20,000 by 2050.

The Victorian Planning Authority’s public information says Arden will become an employment and innovation precinct with 34,000 jobs and 15,000 residents, but planning authorities confirmed in Wednesday’s hearings the population could be closer to 20,000.
Sandell said she had been told by the Planning Department that Arden’s population would be mostly “key workers”, not families.

She compared Arden to Docklands, where the government was forced to acquire land to build a school after not including one in the original plan. Just two years after opening, the government was forced to expand the school into a nearby shopping centre.
Children in the area are zoned for the only public secondary school in the electorate, University High School, which is at 110 per cent capacity.

The Arden precinct could include about 20,000 residents and 34,000 workers. CREDIT:

Sandell, who was instrumental in campaigning for Docklands Primary, said the government’s own policy encouraged families to live near transport hubs and the government should have the foresight to plan adequate schooling to match.
“When Docklands was developed, the government did not expect families to live there, so no school was provided for. Of course, many families did choose to make Docklands home and parents had to campaign for a long time to build a primary school,” she said.

“This is exactly what happened in Docklands, which was a huge failure.”
Docklands Primary School parent Mary Masters said the government needed to earmark inner-city land now for future education facilities.
Masters, who has children in prep and grade 2 at Docklands, was one of a group of parents who questioned the capacity of the school before its opening in 2021.
Docklands Primary enrolled 100 preps the first year and has welcomed the same number every year since. This year, the government was forced to open a second campus to meet demand.

Masters said it was clear families wanted to send their children to school in Melbourne’s inner-city, but there were not enough facilities to cater for the demand.
To not consider Arden for more primary schools or a secondary school was “so narrow-sighted it’s ridiculous,” she said.

The government was forced to acquire land to build a school in Docklands and expand into a nearby shopping centre, after not including one in the original plan.CREDIT AUL JEFFERS

“City living is desirable. People want to be living here and they want to be raising their families here. We don’t want to have to move out to the suburbs in order to get into a school.”
Masters said the lease of shopping centre space bought Docklands Primary some time but was not a permanent solution.

“They can’t just keep us in a shopping centre for the next 10 years. But all the sites nearby got sold off to developers and now they’re having to negotiate with developers if they want to get some land back for schools.

“Hopefully they don’t repeat the same mistake with Arden. Just put the land aside now, build new high schools, build new primary schools.”
An Education Department spokesperson said developments in the Arden area would be factored into the annual school demand forecasts.
“This is consistent with planning for school provision across the state, including in metropolitan growth areas, which has seen the opening of a new campus of the North Melbourne Primary School.”

The development would also be considered in a review of current secondary provision across the Parkville, Flemington and North Melbourne area.

 

[Del191229]

We should run the school.

 

[Gumble Frankieton]

1.Reads like your standard urban planning scenario from recent times. Whack up a huge number of residences and then wait until people complain about all of the obvious flaws before undertaking a costly and tardy retrofit.


2.

Can't help but think that MP Ellen Sandell is looking across at Arden St seeing the facilities and people in blue and white running around and just being a bit confused by what she's seeing. Or, in a less likely scenario, she is looking at Arden St thinking 'how the hell could you not use pick 48'.

3. With my North hat firmly in place I can say that expanded school facilities in the area make perfect sense just as long as they don't come at the expense of us getting that 2nd oval.

4.

We should run the school.

A solid idea. Indoctrinate the little buggers from a young age.

 

[joegreen]

3. With my North hat firmly in place I can say that expanded school facilities in the area make perfect sense just as long as they don't come at the expense of us getting that 2nd oval.

That was exactly what I was thinking.

Could try a co-share arrangement. Schools need quality outdoor and sporting facilities.

Would have vocal support going by the article.

 

[Del191229]

1.Reads like your standard urban planning scenario from recent times. Whack up a huge number of residences and then wait until people complain about all of the obvious flaws before undertaking a costly and tardy retrofit.

The whole 20-30k are not all going to move in at once, is a bit of beat up.

Sandell is a moron.

 

[The Brady Bunch]

1.Reads like your standard urban planning scenario from recent times. Whack up a huge number of residences and then wait until people complain about all of the obvious flaws before undertaking a costly and tardy retrofit.

Well that reminds me of Kennett era planning - bulldoze a school to build a housing estate and then a couple years later, the new residents complain about the lack of schools in the area.

 

[FlyHigh18]

fixed it

 

[giantroo]

 

[FlyHigh18]

fixed that one too, keep em coming