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So the boys returned to the 2024 preseason on Monday, 9 January 2023?
Bloody hell...they should be fit as fiddles by the Opening Round.
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Bloody hell...they should be fit as fiddles by the Opening Round.
Newman was sensational earlier last year in that lockdown role. Beat the likes of Greene and Rankine convincingly. I think if that's his only option to stay in the side he would 100% get the spot over Boyd, Cincotta, Cowan. That said, there is room for Newman and one of the other 3 to play, given we will play 7 defenders.
As for the role Newman plays, I wouldn't be surprised if it's a hybrid role, sometimes tighter, sometimes loser and distributing more depending on the opponent. Doubt we want him locking down every week but don't think we will be afraid to throw him onto a difficult opponent if we need a job done either. He is good enough to still win a decent amount of ball even if played in a tighter role. There may also be matches where get Saad plays tighter and Newman looser if matchups suit.
Regardless, I suspect whoever gets that last spot out of Boyd, Cincotta and Cowan will be asked to play a more defensive role then the other 3, and it'll be those traits that primarily decide which of them get selected, rather then their offensive attributes. Not saying their offensive attributes won't be considered but I think defense will be given more weight.
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After checking the upcoming date,
i see i have mistakenly quoted from a preseason article in 2022…
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My Blue Heaven…
Boyd
Cowan
Newman
Williams
Cincotta
All medium defenders and are all quality in my opinion. Only two make the team each week (maybe three with a rotation on the bench). I'd say Newman has to be a lock, so that leaves 1-2 between the other four.
Perhaps it is:
Newman
Williams
Boyd (off the bench)
Cowan
Newman
Williams
Cincotta
All medium defenders and are all quality in my opinion. Only two make the team each week (maybe three with a rotation on the bench). I'd say Newman has to be a lock, so that leaves 1-2 between the other four.
Perhaps it is:
Newman
Williams
Boyd (off the bench)
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The thing about Boyd for me is, and it's not something you can refer to stats for, is he has a look of confidence about him when he running up the ground, and he looks up the field ahead of him like he's going to make something happen, not panic'd deer in headlights. He's a smooth mover, reminds me of Skinny Lappin a bit.
Boyd reminds me a little in ways of Matty Hogg, quick & tough little bugger who locks down on his opponents while offering us some run from defense…
Probably the two differences would be Boyd’s footskills are at a better level and Hoggy’s ability to find more of the ball in general play…
If Boyd can subdue his opponent combined with increasing his disposal rate to average around 20 per game, he can have a bigger impact which strengthens our backline with his speed and ball use…
Shutting down the opposition’s gun/dangerous small forwards is part of the evolution for us as a team going forward, individually and collectively…
Probably the two differences would be Boyd’s footskills are at a better level and Hoggy’s ability to find more of the ball in general play…
If Boyd can subdue his opponent combined with increasing his disposal rate to average around 20 per game, he can have a bigger impact which strengthens our backline with his speed and ball use…
Shutting down the opposition’s gun/dangerous small forwards is part of the evolution for us as a team going forward, individually and collectively…
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I have
Weitering
McGovern
Marchbank
Saad
Newman
as locks for Rd1.
Williams is probably a semi-lock, but is nearing 30 and hasn't played much in years now. 60 in last 6 years, and only 9 in 2 years. He'll need to light up Jan & Feb to get his spot back, but he's well and truly capable of walking back in if he does. Who knows, he might be a very fresh 29yo instead of a beat-up one feeling every creak. He's a watch.
I like Boyd. He has substance and a bit of fearlessness in his attitude to his game. Voss' handling of him late intrigued a bit. Preferred to pick others for a vital month, then i get a feeling he was just picked for matchup reasons re Brisbane and that we needed a fresh player because a few were banged up. On getting that callup, he put in a good'un. So, intriguing if that performance has shored up his standing in Voss' eyes. Voss would rightly value September form more than most.
I like Kemp. I was bunking up for him to be in the side when he wasn't. I was rapt to see him take big strides initially when he came back in, but it was undeniably a bit worrying how he couldn't get past looking decidedly shaky at times. He should have been past that. Lot of quality about him, but has to be right upstairs and clear thinking. Not everyone has that. I think others in that boat for eg would be Cunners, Young, Dow, O'Brien and many more. Don't get me wrong, i think he's 90% there, just has to improve one area as his dropping from the final attests.
I like Cincotta. He's only a bread n butter type player, but i think it was the Melbourne game late in the season that told me he was a capable player in big games, not just run of the mill 12th v 17th games. I think he's depth, but he is legit capable depth at the very least. Interesting to know why his form suffered late in the season enough to be dropped.
I like Cowan. I think he is a senior player already. It is important to note that he was never dropped last year. He played well early, really well for a first year player actually. Then was managed, and then developed i reckon for the rest of the year by Power and Ebert and co. That's good first year developing, but enough reserves level developing in my view. Senior players develop best playing senior footy early in most cases. If he is fully bought in, i think he has enormous potential to explode this year. Good size, quick, kicks over lines, courageous overhead and has tough mongrel.
So with the 5 locks above, i'm adding Williams and Cowan to the mix for the first picked 7 defenders.
3 tall markers.
2 general defenders.
2 smaller defenders.
Good mix of sizes, good mix of dash, good mix of nous.
Boyd, Kemp and Cinc knocking the door down.
Young as tall back-up. Big Durds as break glass.
Weitering
McGovern
Marchbank
Saad
Newman
as locks for Rd1.
Williams is probably a semi-lock, but is nearing 30 and hasn't played much in years now. 60 in last 6 years, and only 9 in 2 years. He'll need to light up Jan & Feb to get his spot back, but he's well and truly capable of walking back in if he does. Who knows, he might be a very fresh 29yo instead of a beat-up one feeling every creak. He's a watch.
I like Boyd. He has substance and a bit of fearlessness in his attitude to his game. Voss' handling of him late intrigued a bit. Preferred to pick others for a vital month, then i get a feeling he was just picked for matchup reasons re Brisbane and that we needed a fresh player because a few were banged up. On getting that callup, he put in a good'un. So, intriguing if that performance has shored up his standing in Voss' eyes. Voss would rightly value September form more than most.
I like Kemp. I was bunking up for him to be in the side when he wasn't. I was rapt to see him take big strides initially when he came back in, but it was undeniably a bit worrying how he couldn't get past looking decidedly shaky at times. He should have been past that. Lot of quality about him, but has to be right upstairs and clear thinking. Not everyone has that. I think others in that boat for eg would be Cunners, Young, Dow, O'Brien and many more. Don't get me wrong, i think he's 90% there, just has to improve one area as his dropping from the final attests.
I like Cincotta. He's only a bread n butter type player, but i think it was the Melbourne game late in the season that told me he was a capable player in big games, not just run of the mill 12th v 17th games. I think he's depth, but he is legit capable depth at the very least. Interesting to know why his form suffered late in the season enough to be dropped.
I like Cowan. I think he is a senior player already. It is important to note that he was never dropped last year. He played well early, really well for a first year player actually. Then was managed, and then developed i reckon for the rest of the year by Power and Ebert and co. That's good first year developing, but enough reserves level developing in my view. Senior players develop best playing senior footy early in most cases. If he is fully bought in, i think he has enormous potential to explode this year. Good size, quick, kicks over lines, courageous overhead and has tough mongrel.
So with the 5 locks above, i'm adding Williams and Cowan to the mix for the first picked 7 defenders.
3 tall markers.
2 general defenders.
2 smaller defenders.
Good mix of sizes, good mix of dash, good mix of nous.
Boyd, Kemp and Cinc knocking the door down.
Young as tall back-up. Big Durds as break glass.
Like the post overall Terry, but please check your memory banks, Cincotta played 19 games for the season. Notably he played consecutively from round 16 through to and including the preliminary final. He was struggling physically to get up over the last few weeks (from “insider” info I was made privy to), but the match committee persisted right through. He is very highly regarded internally.
Anyone know if the blues will be at the sunny coast again this year?
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Cincotta is every chance of playing round 1. He's a very good two way running half back at VFL level., if he improves his running over his first AFL preseason and is able to transfer more of his VFL game to AFL level then it's going to be really hard to keep him out of the AFL team.
If he plays VFL he will be a 30-40 possession half back week after week so he will be knocking the door down.
He's a good one on one defender, he's quick, he's good in the contests and his kicking is excellent.
I don't have him in my best 22 but it would be no surprise if he was best 22 this year. Was clearly cooked by the finals series. We are stacked for backmen quality, no doubt opposition sides will come looking by the end of the season.
lets see what happens...He's obviously pretty good.....and applies himself very well to his job,his apparent focus and lack of doubt is quality
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I'll be surprised if we don't with the VFL premiership this year. There are going to be unlucky players on every line not getting picked each week - especially the backline.
If we have a strong season from an injuries point of view guys will have to be playing extremely well to stay in the team.
So great that there is no pressure on guys like Cowan, Muir, etc to play AFL. They get the luxury of developing off Broadway. Unlike so many players we've seen over the past 20 years thrown in too early and gifted games.
Sorry i should take this post down Harmsy, it was bought to my attention not long ago that i misquoted from a statement from the previous preaseason…
atm nobody had known what’s happening with the preseason schedule besides what SOAP mentioned previously not long ago that players had already come back earlier while training was officially starting this Monday…
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someone else said it I believe, but I quoted directly....from them...
Took me a day to understand this critique lol. Had it in my head that Cinc was one of the crew dropped for the Prelim, but he wasn't. Think i had him mixed up with the other C player Cunners.
At full strength, i still have others a bit ahead though. I take the point that he was a bit banged up as his form slipped late, but while he was getting a game we did have Williams unavailable, Boyd with significant interruptions early and late in season, and Cowan developing/adjusting. Personally, i think Cowan is a next level player to Cinc, i reckon it was a fantastic pounce by Austin at the draft. But as i said, i think Cinc is very capable of a spot. He will get games. They mostly all will.
