Rumour Isaac Cumming - UFA (and then there was one)

[Cromulant]

I will say, Craigy was forever saying the Crows would be innovators .....yet PORT are doing trips to America for specialised training .....Burgess was taking PORT players overseas for heat training .....since he's been at the Crows, it's been vanilla stuff

Where is this innovation that we were supposedly going to be leading the AFL on ?

I've never understood heat training overseas.... it's hot enough here in summer.

 

[CutAboveTheRest]

Some Port Power poster mentioned his wife was more impressed with Port Power's pitch so will be interesting which way he goes.

 

[cmndstab]

Well one of the networks is getting fed false info, quite funny they’re reporting the complete opposite to each other.

Or more likely, Cumming is playing this with a straight bat, and they're both just guessing.

 

[TBM]

With Houston going, I’d say we’re in trouble.

Port would've known Houston is gone for some time. I think it's Perryman's reluctance to nominate Port yet which is more likely to impact Port's offer to Cumming.

And hence risks impacting our ability to land Cumming.

 

[TBM]

I will say, Craigy was forever saying the Crows would be innovators .....yet PORT are doing trips to America for specialised training .....Burgess was taking PORT players overseas for heat training .....since he's been at the Crows, it's been vanilla stuff

Where is this innovation that we were supposedly going to be leading the AFL on ?

I would like to see more professional stuff like that too... breeds a higher-performance culture.

Wonder if it's the club not signing off on the $$$ required to fund such a trip? Putting it aside for the Thebarton HQ?

 

[crow2crow]

I've never understood heat training overseas.... it's hot enough here in summer.

its a junket. everyone loves a junket.

seriously though its the high altitude they can't replicate here

 

[WaynesWorld19]

Wonder if it's the club not signing off on the $$$ required to fund such a trip? Putting it aside for the Thebarton HQ?

I just think the Club is dealing in basics currently ....and not looking to be creative

Then again, I don't see an ounce of creativity in Kelly .....he's more the public servant, with strict routines

 

[cmndstab]

I will say, Craigy was forever saying the Crows would be innovators .....yet PORT are doing trips to America for specialised training .....Burgess was taking PORT players overseas for heat training .....since he's been at the Crows, it's been vanilla stuff

Where is this innovation that we were supposedly going to be leading the AFL on ?

I reckon after the camp debacle, we decided to just focus on the simple stuff for a while.

 

[FR0GGY]

I just think the Club is dealing in basics currently ....and not looking to be creative

Then again, I don't see an ounce of creativity in Kelly .....he's more the public servant, with strict routines

Do you see creativity in Nicks?
He seems to be straight up and down vanilla.

 

[Thrillthorpe7]

Or more likely, Cumming is playing this with a straight bat, and they're both just guessing.

Yep, very likely! At least Ingram actually spoke to the man directly, but Cumming hardly gave anything away in that interview.

 

[Cromulant]

Do you see creativity in Nicks?
He seems to be straight up and down vanilla.

It's not upto him to set pre season training plans like that though

 

[WaynesWorld19]

I reckon after the camp debacle, we decided to just focus on the simple stuff for a while.

Agree .....we've become a bit gun shy

It needs brave leaders to continue to innovate after being slapped down

 

[FR0GGY]

It's not upto him to set pre season training plans like that though

Not saying it is, talking about in general. Wouldn’t be Kelly’s either would it?
Be the fitness department.

 

[WaynesWorld19]

Do you see creativity in Nicks?
He seems to be straight up and down vanilla.

I don't disagree with that POV .....I also don't see Horse or Fagan as more than vanilla Coaches either

 

[TRP1996]

we decided to just focus on the simple stuff for a while.

And hasn't that just paid wonderful dividends?

 

[Cromulant]

I don't disagree with that POV .....I also don't see Horse or Fagan as more than vanilla Coaches either

Vanilla is fine as long as the plans are good

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

Do you see creativity in Nicks?
He seems to be straight up and down vanilla.

Playing four tall forwards in a wet night game is pretty outside of the box thinking

 

[Crows I Am]

its a junket. everyone loves a junket.

seriously though its the high altitude they can't replicate here

We are sending our guys up Mt Lofty instead.

 

[WaynesWorld19]

Vanilla is fine as long as the plans are good

I look at the type of players being drafted / traded .....then the gameplan

In our case, getting competitive players, and playing a combative gamestyle 1st and flair overlapping, I like

If you look at that BRIS / GEEL game ....that's the exact game type, we've recruited for and play .....plenty of chaos balls, ground balls, and mistakes .....those prissy players can't get a kick, Hipwood a great example ....Lukosius would flounder

 

[Danger in Texas]

This is the worst part of the off-season, for me as a fan - the waiting on your targets to make a decision

At least if we've failed, you know we've failed. Clarity and all that

 

[WaynesWorld19]

Incorrect. The case I am prosecuting is that if Dawson and Rankine knew what Nicks was like, they wouldn't have bothered.

AND .....there's no rush with players trying to get out of the Crows .....that's always been a fear amongst supporters

It does say something about the Coach and Management

 

[The Big Sauce]

From the moment Cumming's manager told the media that his decision would be in line with Port's exit from finals I've felt like they had the edge.

Even though it was likely him just being thorough.

 

[footy4ever]

Why? Half the people here say they’re a 3 man team and their list sucks.
Should have plenty of cap space

They are a 4 man team. How dare you underrate them!

 

[FR0GGY]

I don't disagree with that POV .....I also don't see Horse or Fagan as more than vanilla Coaches either

Yeah but you at least got to have something, they have performance.

 

[Danger in Texas]

Yeah but you at least got to have something, they have performance.

They do have much better performing best 22's than us

But it's a combination of everything. There's a reason both Fagan and Horse are coaching in the Grand Final, they've gotten the most out of their players and gotten them to stand up when it counts