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Wow Ortiz quit on his stool today at the end of the 8th from a broken jaw. So his fight with Alvarez is ****ed. I think it's good for boxing when things don't go by the script. Maybe there will be a question over Ortiz's heart and guts cause this is the second time he's quit.

Bring back don king. Now there was a corrupt promoter with swagger.

The hbo commentating for Marquez pacquiao 3 was a joke also. Manny would throw his off balance flurries that look good to the crowd but in reality were very inaccurate and the commentators would jump out of there seats. Then marquez would land hard clean shots that snapped mannys head back and...

I haven't seen chaves jr fight before. Is he worth a watch? And is this lee a tomato can or does he stand a chance?

Dominated? I don't think anyone dominated anyone. Dominating rounds is like what pac did to margarito.Not a cut or bruise on either except for mannys tongue. First 3 rounds could have gone either way. Anyway the rematch will be huge and I don't think either of them Will want to risk going to...

Absoloutley spot on. I think I saw that hbo had it 11 rounds to 1 in favour of pacquiao including the last 2 rounds like cmon.

I can't understand the inconsistent outroar over this fight. There were heaps of rounds that could have gone both ways. Bradley started rounds well then manny would try and steal them by letting his hands go in the last ten seconds. Bradley won in my opinion because pacs punch stats are a...

Re: Is Kerr OK Don't worry bout Kerry , worry about perths taxi drivers who drive in fear when they spread the word that k dog has gone out for a drink

Ol ro$$y Lyon has been copping a pounding tonight and last night on sports central for the weekends derby and his overall gameplan. When they shafted Harvey for Lyon I never knew why Lyon had so much cred as a head coach I mean if you can't wina flag with reiwoldt,koschitzke,Goddard,dal...

Did anyone watch the channel 7 top derbies segment after the footy? It just made me wild watching stuff like Jeff farmer looking to the heavens when he kicked his soft easy goals and the Carr brothers going after cuz.

From memory he wasn't too convincing against an old cassamayor. He seems all muscles without the power. Anyone know the undercard schedule??

**** that's funny. ANyone like Bradley against PAC? I'm kinda off manny since the Marquez fight and the constant Jesus preaching just cause his mrs caught him muckin around . What a crutch

cotto did well man but that margarito is a nutcase. i think he actually likes pain. the more shots he takes the bigger his smile grows. not a bad undercard i thought that john murray did surprisingly well early in the fight against brandon rios. for a guy that wasnt given a chance in hell...

no one wants to rubbish danny because hes such a good bloke. but to be frank his best days were over a long time ago. from 2001-2003 he was an animal. something like 15 or 16-0 record all by way of ko all inside of 5 rounds which scored him a shot at markus beyer in germany. he hammered...

hope greenys alright. hang them up now before hyder gets in your ear to fight some 23 year old up and coming mexican undefeated cruiserweight.

im going to come out and say that angelo hyder should be ashamed of himself. he put his own personal interests infront of danny when he wanted him to keep fighting after tarver. his problem is that hes played second fiddle for his whole career as a trainer. so when he got his first top job to...

good luck danny. i think if he wants to revive his career he needs to get this pole out of there early in the fight in devastating fashion. even if he scrapes by on points i dont think it will be enough to inspire the fans or himself. found a good short and sweet write up on danny which hits...

Re: Past player of the week - Don Pyke how did ablett not get reported for that blatant elbow in 92? he would be looking at a good 6-7 weeks for that these days. :mad:

the chief is a flog

haaahahahaha

i thought it was just a term used in the digital world. and then when everyone logs off they start talking normally again.

i have never ever heard the term "flog" in real life. only on this forum have i heard it. is it melbourne slang? its as if people have seen it written on here and just adopted it and started using it every second word to fit in with you bunch of flogs.

haha ledermans voice is so annoying. is merchant drunk? and manny steward surprisingly makes a lot of wrong calls for a legendary trainer of the sport. so many times he will talk about how a fighter is fighting a really good fight and then WHAM! hes on his arse. i remember when katsidis...

now now now this thread is a bit harsh. do you mean to tell me that peter bell, andrew mcleod, trent croad, and paul medhursts careers skyrocketed after parting way with the dockers? and that the failing environment of the club restricts young peoples careers??? surely not.

i think because manny throws fast punches in bunches it looks exciting even if he hits arms, gloves or thin air for that matter. judges and punters get sucked in when he throws anything and jump out of their seats for it everytime. i know one thing for sure whenever marquez threw his punches...

yeah well your right about cotto being damaged i reckon,but although cotto was shaken up by the pacquiao knockdown he definetly looked ****en awesome early in that fight. nice and snappy and really matching it with pac before the knockdown i was really impressed. manny really did swarm on him...

well ive noticed the british boxing media (steve bunce , box nation channel etc ) seem to be more rational thinking about the fight. but some american media such as some espn boxing show who were so one eyed pacman supporters were accusing marquez of a deliberate headbutt. like you said...

maybe show a little ****ing respect about mainwaring please. a jokes a joke but cmon now.

yeah i agree not everyone can fight till their late 30's/early 40's. theres a big chunk of fighters who hang them up quite young and i hope kats is one of them. and if he thinks he can re invent himself into more of a boxer who takes less punishment and fights on the outside i think thats an...

i hate to get to go down the conspiracy road too much. but it might not only be the pacquiao/top rank relationship that has too much at stake to lose a fight against marquez at this stage but mannys powerful political and cult status in the phillipines might also be a factor. pacquiaos success...