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The combination of mark and goal was pretty exceptional to be honest. The mark was probably a 1 in 10 chance for most players. And that kick was about as pure as you can hit it. I don’t know if I have seen a better executed kick under massive pressure. He kicked it from 55m, and it was never...

That team has Mannagh as sub written all over it

That is a heck of a lot of bubbles bursting. Watch out for debris

From memory he was a big slider on draft day. The recruiters knew best

CatToTheFuture i would love to give my views on Bailey. I am honoured that you think me worthy of the gig. I will even do a live read promoting Wacker Neuson if necessary. I am sure Jason would be very pleased.

Please let it be true

I wouldn’t do an early teens pick. But I am a self-confessed short on smith. Too many red flags, hopefully he goes somewhere not Geelong.

To be honest, if he is on $1m+ until 2028 Richmond would probably be happy to get him off the books. The only saving grace is that Richmond have to pay someone, and the list of potential candidates is not long. Someone needs to get overpaid at Punt Rd to be able to reach the salary cap floor...

Cadman would be good. Probably cheaper too. Oh no, don’t drag me into another discussion that could get me in trouble

I think you may have forgotten how much shit Tom Hawkins took as a young player.

King is as close as you can get to a young Tom Hawkins. Cameron would be the wily veteran. It would be a very good replication of that 2022 setup. But again, it is not going to happen so I am going to avoid talking about it.

I didn’t say it was easy. I said it was easier. The hardest piece to find in footy is the key forward to build the team around. I will always take that over a midfielder if it is available. But I don’t think we should be talking about King. He will stay at st kilda on a long term deal. I...

We looked much better again in 2022 when we had a prime Jeremy Cameron and a late prime Tom Hawkins in the same forward line.

King fixes a massive Hawkins sized hole In our list for the next 8-10 seasons. We will find it easier to fix the midfield

WE SHOULD TRADE FOR SOME GOOD OLDER PLAYERS, AND DRAFT SOME YOUNG BLOKES WITH POTENTIAL

And Stengle has taken significant under value

Ok

If you purely compare how much of the salary they are taking up, Cameron was getting paid ~47% more in 2021 than Stengle will get in 2025. It is a huge difference.

People on here called me crazy for suggesting that Stengle is on the same level as Toby Greene. Right now he is better.

I reckon 90% of knowledgeable footy watchers would choose Bont over Neale. He can do som much more as a player and leader. Neale is a quality mid, but him having 2 Brownlow is just confirmation that the award goes to the midfielder with the most possessions. Now, all good teams need high...

Not when he signed the contract in 2020. He was already at the lions at that stage, it was an extension on his first lions deal.

In their primes? No Kelly was a gun mid who could also play lock down stopper and very competent small defender. Mooney was a very good key forward who could also pinch hit in the ruck and played down back early in his career to good effect. Mackie was probably the best attacking half back...

It is what made our teams from 2007-2011 so special. We probably had a 50/50 mix between elite players and role players. Most good teams would probably be 35/65 at best

Correct

My theory is nearly always: Draft smalls, poach talls

Both can be true

Forget smith then. Get king

I see what you are saying. But if you take the last 3 seasons of Tyson and compare to Cameron’s 2017-2019 (ie the 3 years before he signed his deal), Tyson had a better goal per game average (1.88 vs 1.75) and more possessions per game (13.29 vs 13.05). And Cameron had the benefit of a more...

Lonergan was the perfect definition of a role player. He was never a star, never in the best 10 players in the team, never a high profile player who won you the game. But if you asked him to do something specific (ie. nullify the oppositions best gorilla forward) he would nearly always do the...