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Mick Malthouse after Jordan Murdoch destroyed Carlton.

Not the end of the world. We drafted Holmes and Neale anyway.. We would've used two of those picks in the 2020 draft on them. As for the other pick, it was a matter of whether Collingwood preferred Conor Stone or Henry. We were happy with either. Of course we could've kept our 2021 first instead...

Howes + Goater please at 24/25. Jack Williams and Hough with our later picks and I'll be over the moon.

If Gary Ablett Jnr was named, say Robbie Gray and Scarlett was named Cameron Delaney, then both wouldve probably gone were Gray and Delaney did in their respective drafts (probably the most similar junior players I could come up with). Neither players are relevant to a discussion about...

If only counting after finals then Geelong over Brisbane is 2005-2021 17 years

Interesting analysis. Could say similar about Hartley at Richmond. Outside of Vlaustin who was a single figure pick (reward for being sh*t) Richmond have just Bolton, Balta and Graham left that I would rate as average AFL footballers or better taken in the national draft over the same time...

Assuming no injuries and the INS are right to go INS Rohan Atkins Miers OUTS Sav (Managed) Higgins (Managed) Close (Managed) Narkle (omitted) With Atkins coming in move Blicavs to the wing/ruck and shuffle around Holmes and Simpson to cover Higgins/Close. Close needs a rest. Has played...

Money well spent by Adelaide I guess. In all seriousness that was probably also his best ever game as a cat. (couldn't have been worse than his other game against ESS last year) Pretty impressive effort to play your best ever game for 2 clubs in the one game.

Good thread 2004 also the last year Brisbane finished higher than Geelong. Essendon last finished above Geelong in 2003. Barring a miracle Geelong will also record 20 years of higher placed finishes over Carlton 2002-2021.

Leon Davis 1 Premiership Medal - didn't even play in the decider 2 All Australians - 1 as a forward ahead of Mark LeCras who kicked an extra 30 goals and was overlooked and 1 as a defender in a superteam who couldnt actually defend.

I'm not trying to denigrate Jack Higgins. I realise that he's had some serious challenges along the way that you noted. Ive drawn on the comparison as both were drafted as midfielders who could play another position Higgins FWD, Clark BACK, both were in teams with a lot of depth in those...

I didn't go into too much detail about the rest of the Jack Higgins trade as I feel that there isn't much of a difference between Richmond giving back last year's first round pick which was ultimately pick 26 for St. kindas 2nd Rounder this year likely pick 28-32 particularly if you factor in...

Jack Higgins was traded for a first round pick last year despite not being in Richmond's best 26 (wasn't named as an emergency in their GF side). Both Higgins and Clark are the same age (should Clark request a trade this year) couldn't break into strong midfields (Geelong bats much deeper IMO)...

Tom Stewart and Mark O'Connor. Both 191cm, quick and agile. Can't really get a better pair of fast, agile medium defenders on their combined salary. Henry is also 191cm, quick and agile but lacks footskills. It's the footskills out of defence we lack not speed and agility. Bews, Atkins...

Why is Errol Gulden being discussed in the same boat as others? He was a second round pick and very gettable IMO. Here's a question. If GWS didn't match a bid for Jeremy Cameron and Geelong bid on Errol Gulden at pick 23 would he be wearing the hoops or would Sydney match anyway and cop the...

Just play the R2 game Fremantle vs GWS as the season opener on Saturday 13th March. Would not disrupt anyone else and both sides would get a week off when everyone else is playing their R2.

From a purely personnel perspective, losing 4 quality players in the prime of their careers (Saad, Daniher, Fantasia, McKenna) and replacing them with Caldwell, who's not ready to be a major contributor in 2021, will hurt any club. Yes those last three players didn't contribute much in 2020...

Jacob Hopper would be our preferred target IMO. We need a bigger body in there who accumulates to combine with Guthrie and Parfitt over 2022-23. Parish would be OK if one of Cooper Stephens or Charlie Constable really came on next year to the point of them being a likely B+ Grader but that...

Geelong in 2015 Doubles against the 2014 Grand Finalists and 1 of the preliminary finalists who would all go on to finish either in the top 4 or make a prelim in 2015 (only 2 at home). Fixtured against the other prelim finalist from 2014 PORT in Adelaide. Fixtured WCE in Perth who would go on...

There's 3 key problems with the draft 1. The creation of draft points has created a second class of draft picks - picks when used as points are valued differently than when used for picks. This results in clubs trying to gain an advantage over the rest of the competition by completing lopsided...

Increasing trend? In 2019 every non-victorian club that had a pick in the first round drafted a Victorian. Gold Coast drafted 3 in the first round, Fremantle 2 and GWS, Port and Sydney 1 each.

1. J Ugle Hagan WB (matched bid) 2. R Tilthorpe ADEL 3. L McDonald HAW (pick swap at draft) 4. D Grainger-Barass SYD 5. E Hollands NTH (pick swap at draft) 6. W Phillips GC 7. Z Reid. ESS 8. B Campbell SYD (matched bid) 9. T Bruhn. ESS 10. A Perkins COLL (Pick swap at draft) 11. R...

Not free agents but maybe Clayton Oliver is missing the country life? Maybe Jacob Hopper is in the same boat? Both would cost a lot but would be perfect fits with Selwood set to retire.

Spot on. Just trying to give insight on reasons why clubs would be put off otherwise all people have to go off is Spot on. Bolton doesn't have that point of difference that a Tim Kelly has so was never going to be looked at inside the top 50 picks. More just trying to add that as opposed...

Bews* DeKoning Z Guthrie O'Connor Kolojashnij Henry Clark. Parfitt. Stephens Miers Jarvis Simpson Atkins Kreuger Close Ratugolea Constable Narkle Evans Brownless Taheny Okunbor Tsapatos * Bews is still 26 but born in 1993

Have a look at the earlier post about Jye's achievements. As good a resume as there can be. The media have been promoting Jye for the last 7 years. No genuine interest from clubs (not even a single state screening invite). Cut by Collingwood after 1 year despite significantly outperforming...

Bolton hasn't been invited to a single draft combine or state screening in 11 years. Despite the numbers he puts up in state leagues, clubs consistently show an unwillingness to draft him. Even Marlion Pickett (same age) was drafted despite putting up worse numbers in the WAFL and spending time...

From what I personally have heard and know about him, I would be surprised if he ever got onto an AFL list again. Although I was surprised he was on one in the first place.

Only got one season under Malthouse's Collingwood. Buckley took over next year and immediately delisted him despite having an impressive first season. Remember the 'rat pack' and Buckley moving them on?