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He was quiet but who cares? We have 22 blokes playing a manic, high pressure, Bulldogs style of footy at the moment. Unless he becomes a liability on the field his perceived presence is having a positive impact on the rest of the midfield.

Haha well played.

I've just skimmed through this thread and what amazes me is the unbelievable amount of negativity aimed at individual players such as Grigg, Caddy, Prestia, Vlastuin for not filling the stat sheet. Take your eyes off the numbers and focus on the way the side is playing. I don't give a shit if...

FB: Short, Rance, Grimes HB: Vlaustin, Astbury, Houli C: McIntosh, Martin, Grigg HF: Caddy, Griffiths, Lloyd FF: Rioli, Riewoldt, Edwards Foll: Hampson, Cotchin, Prestia Int: Miles, Menadue, Conca, Markov I think the backline is still one of the best in the competition. Of course the stats...

One day our VFL side will win games. Jesus wept.

You'd assume now that Lennon's non selection is based on form rather than fitness.

I understand what you're saying but it's off on this occasion. Read Lids' quote from today, he said when he first did it he was hopeful of a 4 week return. Strange that Dimma come out and stated only days after the injury that he was a chance to face the blues and then on the Wednesday said he'd...

This was never an issue previously and doesn't seem to occur with other clubs. Why can't Yarran's situation be compared? It's another case of the club making false statements in relation to injuries. Maric has missed a heap of footy for someone with a tight back. I won't hold my breath waiting...

Dimma said last week Lids was a 1 weeker and would play this week. They did the same with Maric and lets not forget the Yarran saga. I don't expect there to be an open dialogue with injuries but the bullshit trotted out by our club this season especially is tiresome.

I've ranted about this previously but I'm going to bring it to light again. Why does the club refuse to provide honest feedback in relation to injures? I don't see any other clubs promising the return of certain players every week only for them to then make vague comments when prompted the...

I hope Batch is back in the seniors soon.

His first game was good, didn't do a lot in his second game. He should play most games this year and I'd expect him to average around 70.

Meanwhile we have Moore, Batch, Chaplin and Hunt not selected. They aren't world beaters but all have played in big games in front of big crowds. Our young boys are being asked a lot.

Lennon not selected even though Deledio is out. Morris picked despite not playing an AFL standard game in 3 years. We've gone in with far too many unknowns. Is astbury up to it? Rioli is super raw. Menadue and Ellis still very inexperienced. Griffiths has been awful in recent times.

Horrible side.

Can't remember being this nervous for a game.

Great to hear Miles and Titch are right.

I really hope Miles gets up more than anyone else. Our midfield doesn't seem to function when he's out.

How am I overreacting? The club has released mixed injury reports all pre season and I'm not the only one getting tired of it.

Full strength I wouldn't be worried in the slightest. But we have some big concerns going into Thursday. I'm not sure if the confidence on here is just to stir up the Blues supporters but I'm certainly not penciling this one in. Deledio out. We always struggle when he doesn't play. Maric...

Maybe. Just saying, 3 years running now he's limped into round 1.

Less than 24 hours the club made a statement clearing him to play and pretty much rubbished rumours he had an injury. Do some research.

Another year another badly managed Deledio pre season.

Getting really tired of the bullshit games the club plays in relation to injuries. As their most important stakeholder I believe we deserve more clarity.

First thing I noticed too. Pretty pathetic.

Some Carlton posters have actually claimed Grigg, Edwards and Deledio are confirmed outs. I guess convincing yourself it's true makes it more of a reality.

Why was the Deledio thread closed? This is a footy forum and we can't discuss a players potential injury? Ridiculous.

This off season has been ****ed.

Pre season from hell.

Ay substance to the rumours about Lids limping off?