Past #1: Hamish McIntosh - drafted at pick 9 in '02 ND - traded to Geelong for #36 in '12 trade period

[Hard_to_Beat]

I'm keen to chase Stef Martin. A big man who's taken time to develop, could end up being a beauty.

He's not a number 1 ruckman.

He would be competing with Daw for a spot.

 

[DJ Dupree]

What we wouldn't give for a David Hale right about now.

 

[Daz]

He's not a number 1 ruckman.

He would be competing with Daw for a spot.

He's played his best footy as a number 1 ruckman.

 

[Uncle_Leo]

He's not a number 1 ruckman.

He would be competing with Daw for a spot.

Yep and this is all we need anyway, we have a number 1 ruckman already.

 

[Daz]

What we wouldn't give for a David Hale right about now.

We sure as hell wouldn't give up Kieran Harper.

 

[Hard_to_Beat]

Yep and this is all we need anyway, we have a number 1 ruckman already.

My comment was in relation to position standing.

We need someone that can play as a proper number 1 AFL back up ruckman.

Stefam Martin is a follower. He can't carry the ruck.

 

[DJ Dupree]

Well, yeah. That's one thing I wouldn't give.

 

[ohh_v]

He's not a number 1 ruckman.

He would be competing with Daw for a spot.

Thought the point was that he'd be playing backup to Goldy? Would be a great fit IMO.

 

[Saintly31]

Agreed but if pick 14 goes to GC then we don't stand a chance of getting Clarke.

That is probably true.

I'd like to suggest a player swap, but doubt we have any that we would consider "expendable" that would meet their expectations for Clarke.

 

[GarnerSmash]

From another thread, these are the rucks currently on AFL lists.

Green = best 22

Ready: Jacobs
Project: Dowdell
Ready: Leuenberger, Hudson, Longer
Ready: Warnock, Hampson, Kreuzer
Ready: Jolly, Wood
Project: Witts, Ceglar
Ready: Ryder, Bellchambers, Hille
Ready: Sandilands, Griffin, Clarke
Ready: West, Simpson, Vardy, Stephenson
Ready: Smith
Project: Hickey, Gorringe, Nicholls
Ready: Giles, Brogan
Project: Phillips
Ready: Hale, Bailey, McCauley, Pattison
Project: Lowden, Grimley
Ready: Jamar, Spencer, Clark, Martin (latter two are pinch hitters but very capable as #1)
Project: Gawn
Ready: Goldstein, McIntosh
Project: Daw, Mabon (difficult because they're both probably project pinch hitters)
Ready: Renouf, Lobbe, Redden
Ready: Maric, Graham, Derrickx
Ready: McEvoy, Stanley (more of a pinch hitter but he's all they have)
Project: Lever
Ready: Mumford, Pyke, Seaby (delisted)
Ready: Naitanui, Cox
Project: Lycett
Ready:Minson, Campbell, Cordy, Roughead (again, those last two are playing as KPPs but they're probably best used as ruckmen)

If Geelong get McIntosh, they'll probably release Stephenson. He'd be a half decent short term option.

A guy like Currie is more risk and reward. He's untried so he could be useless as a backup but he could also surprise.

Thanks Daz.

Whats the deal with Currie?

 

[Joshen]

Apart from Clarke who would cost too much in my opinion (although if Hansen goes.....) I would target Martin quite like him and in my opinion can play no.1 ruck admirably at least in the short term. I would also consider rookie listing Seaby or Currie as insurance.

 

[GarnerSmash]

Thought the point was that he'd be playing backup to Goldy? Would be a great fit IMO.

I guess the point is that we need someone on our list who is capable of filling the number 1 void if Goldy goes down while still maintaining the optimal forward line set up. Martin isn't a bad option for this. 199cm, athletic enough to create a contest in the middle.

 

[TennisPlayerAndy]

Need someone who is told from the outset, 'you are playing VFL unless Goldy gets hurt'.

Not sure there are many who would like that to be honest.

 

[Hard_to_Beat]

Thought the point was that he'd be playing backup to Goldy? Would be a great fit IMO.

Where does that leave Daw?

 

[GarnerSmash]

Need someone who is told from the outset, 'you are playing VFL unless Goldy gets hurt'.

Not sure there are many who would like that to be honest.

Good point TPA. Although I am sure there would be a number of capable ruckmen in the state leagues who would love the opportunity to be on an AFL list.

 

[ohh_v]

Where does that leave Daw?

Rotating with Tarrant/Hansen for one of the forward spots. I see Daw as a considerably less accomplished AFL level ruck than Martin.

 

[Daz]

Thanks Daz.

Whats the deal with Currie?

Can't say I've seen his SANFL form this year but I know that for the 4 years prior to that he was on Sydney's list without getting a senior game. He had a lot of injuries. Supposedly he's been the leading SANFL ruckman. You'd be picking him in the hope that he'd do a Jon Giles.

 

[Daz]

Richmond will also be in the market for a serviceable backup.

 

[Mailman]

Need someone who is told from the outset, 'you are playing VFL unless Goldy gets hurt'.

Not sure there are many who would like that to be honest.

I actually don't think Martin would play reserves. He is the bustling pack crusher that we need. Utility who can play first Ruck but get forward and back to break some packs apart. To me he not only fills a Ruck role but also a team role that is currently vacant.

 

[GarnerSmash]

Can't say I've seen his SANFL form this year but I know that for the 4 years prior to that he was on Sydney's list without getting a senior game. He had a lot of injuries. Supposedly he's been the leading SANFL ruckman. You'd be picking him in the hope that he'd do a Jon Giles.

Who does he play for?

 

[Joshen]

I wasn't happy with just a second, a third is just insulting.

If true (may or may not be the case).

 

[Daz]

Who does he play for?

North Adelaide. From memory, this was his first year off an AFL list since juniors.

 

[ohh_v]

I actually don't think Martin would play reserves. He is the bustling pack crusher that we need. Utility who can play first Ruck but get forward and back to break some packs apart. To me he not only fills a Ruck role but also a team role that is currently vacant.

Even more so if the Hansen talk is true.

 

[Waynesworld]

Where does that leave Daw?

Daw takes Lachie's spot when he goes to Melbourne / Footscray for more money

 

[Hard_to_Beat]

Rotating with Tarrant/Hansen for one of the forward spots. I see Daw as a considerably less accomplished AFL level ruck than Martin.

What is the point of that?

It's tactically ridiculous.