Past #10: Ben Cunnington - will retire from the AFL after * game - 238 games/95+ goals/2x Syd Barker Medalist/Shinboner - thanks for everything Cunners

[Val Keating]

I think being dead last on the ladder has a bit to do with it as well

 

[Event Horizon]

Nah that’s not true. I took leave to help out my wife and was paid my normal wage. I’m a carpenter and we have a union. It’s probably true for people working in sectors without a decent union though.

True. But personally I believe that when you aren't on the job, you don't get paid

The club literally sat them down and gave them this option, with them acknowledging how god awful hubs were previously and that this could last the rest of the season. This isn't a case of Ben calling them up 30 minutes before the flight and saying he wasn't coming.

I am not suggesting it was Ben or the club. I am commenting on the outcome.

 

[Event Horizon]

There would be a better reason than he just doesn't want too.
If the club and players don't have a problem than neither should anyone else.

As a member I am allowed to have a problem with the club not having a problem with it.

 

[Val Keating]

True. But personally I believe that when you aren't on the job, you don't get paid

Maybe if you’re a sub contractor, another thing that is frowned on,for the reason that subbies don’t get paid unless they’re working. Ben is not a sub contractor.

 

[Devington]

True. But personally I believe that when you aren't on the job, you don't get paid

I am not suggesting it was Ben or the club. I am commenting on the outcome.

Fair enough. No issue with you having the opinion or expressing it (and doubly so because you are being respectful), but I strongly disagree that there are some slippery slope shenanigans to come with player's skipping out on games for mundane reasons.

 

[Kangaroo Cat]

So Tarryn mentioned that cunners sits in his reviews and gives advice, does Ben get paid for that?

 

[Gotta_Bea_Hero]

The precedent here could lead to blokes saying I won't travel to the next away game because my wife has a flu, and she has kids to look after, or my grandmother has a birthday. I mean, in all seriousness, players haven't missed games in the past for family reasons other than child birth or very serious medical emergencies. Now we have these situations where it's ok to simply not travel because you could be away for up to 3 weeks and you have kids at home. I would imagine that half the team could find a very good reason why they would rather stay home. List of 42 may not be enough if blokes like Goldy and Ziebell et al would have adopted the same attitude. But given they are highly paid professionals, it's ok to question this in my opinion.

I realize not many agree with me, but this is my take on it.

I agree with you 100%. He is in a privileged position to pull the blue & white jumper on each week, and be well paid to do so. Our supporter base have poured thousands of donations into the club over the past 2 years, because of their love for the club and will continue to do the same next year. His actions have made me question the value of his 'shinboner spirit'

 

[Event Horizon]

I agree with you 100%. He is in a privileged position to pull the blue & white jumper on each week, and be well paid to do so. Our supporter base have poured thousands of donations into the club over the past 2 years, because of their love for the club and will continue to do the same next year. His actions have made me question the value of his 'shinboner spirit'

I wouldn't quite question his shinboner spirit, but in general, it's a questionable call by him

 

[Harris 10]

I'm actually looking forward to seeing the midfield perform without him.

For that reason alone, i'm happy for him to stay in Melbourne.

 

[Gotta_Bea_Hero]

I wouldn't quite question his shinboner spirit, but in general, it's a questionable call by him

I am questioning it, but it is what it is, it gives somebody else that wants to play an opportunity.

 

[Gumble Frankieton]

 

[Harpergun]

I am questioning it, but it is what it is, it gives somebody else that wants to play an opportunity.

Questioning Ben Cunningtons shinboner spirit is almost as bad as questioning why need to breath in and out to survive.

The man has a baby due soon, and being a father of a prem baby myself, you just dont know when they may decide to come. For that alone, no wonder he doesnt want to be potentially locked out of the state for an extended time or if he could come back, need to isolate for 2 weeks.

Wake up and think for a moment before you question the shinboner spirit of one of our greats.

 

[giantroo]

 

[Ligma]

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[Devington]

Even funnier because I'm pretty sure the screenshot of Sumich is from that disastrous interview he did a few weeks back where the host made him look like a complete ****ing dill.

 

[Horace]

Each to their own. To me when you sign a 600k per year contract, you do the job wherever and whenever it's required. And do it well.

Yeah well that's a very outdated attitude nowadays.

 

[BogBot]

I agree with you 100%. He is in a privileged position to pull the blue & white jumper on each week, and be well paid to do so. Our supporter base have poured thousands of donations into the club over the past 2 years, because of their love for the club and will continue to do the same next year. His actions have made me question the value of his 'shinboner spirit'

Cheers Peter

 

[AnEmptyChair]

Hey GR, I know they were doing one of these with the leaders as well. Has that come out and I've just missed or it's not been released yet?

 

[King Corey]

I agree with you 100%. He is in a privileged position to pull the blue & white jumper on each week, and be well paid to do so. Our supporter base have poured thousands of donations into the club over the past 2 years, because of their love for the club and will continue to do the same next year. His actions have made me question the value of his 'shinboner spirit'

Look I think some supporters give the players a free pass to take the piss at times but surely not right now with Ben?

We're currently in contention for absolutely nothing and arguably have more to lose than gain from putting all our energies into winning at all costs. On top of that if Ben has personal circumstances that need him in Melbourne and his back is creaking from carrying the midfield, don't think he's letting us down particularly.

For all we know the club might've gently nudged him to stay to focus on 2022.

 

[Ligma]

LMFAO the questions


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[So You Think]

'They'll make lots of mistakes': Remainder of season a learning experience for young Hawks

With finals off the table, Hawthorn will back in its younger players in the last few games of the season

www.afl.com.au

Tanks for that info

 

[Merlin007]

Look I think some supporters give the players a free pass to take the piss at times but surely not right now with Ben?

We're currently in contention for absolutely nothing and arguably have more to lose than gain from putting all our energies into winning at all costs. On top of that if Ben has personal circumstances that need him in Melbourne and his back is creaking from carrying the midfield, don't think he's letting us down particularly.

For all we know the club might've gently nudged him to stay to focus on 2022.

Yep, well I imagine Ben has his reasons, and all that's fair enough, but just when I've been banging on about the club not tanking, the opportunity arises for us not to play our number one midfielder.

Hey presto! Voila! Pick #1 - coming right up!

Everyone seems to be happy - and I imagine, especially those on here who've been making the passionate case about giving Jason Horne the keys to Arden Street

Me? I'm just going to find the salt and pepper - when you've got to eat your own hat, a few condiments help it go down a bit easier

 

[Harpergun]

Anyone else not want that video to end??

 

[King Corey]

Yep, well I imagine Ben has his reasons, and all that's fair enough, but just when I've been banging on about the club not tanking, the opportunity arises for us not to play our number one midfielder.

Hey presto! Voila! Pick #1 - coming right up!

Everyone seems to be happy - and I imagine, especially those on here who've been making the passionate case about giving Jason Horne the keys to Arden Street

Me? I'm just going to find the salt and pepper - when you've got to eat your own hat, a few condiments help it go down a bit easier

As per draft thread, it's going to be one colossal head**** if we get #1 then trade it anyway.

 

[giantroo]

Hey GR, I know they were doing one of these with the leaders as well. Has that come out and I've just missed or it's not been released yet?

Not yet.