Player Watch #15: Jayden Short

[Coach_Required]

He had a poor year but **** me the pile on is over the top. B&F winner in a premiership year is as good as it gets. I'm backing him in to find some good form next year.

If Rioli is gone, then hopefully he plays half back and returns to his previous form. We won't even notice Dan has left if that happens.

 

[TJTIGER]

What's similar player got to do with it? Lynch is unique. Dusty is unique. Rance was unique. When they are injured or retire you put the best magnet in their spot and hope for the best. No similar substitution available.

Agree , I’m just saying I’ve not considered him as a forward tbh. That doesn’t mean he shouldn’t or couldn’t do it. From memory I think he had some time in the middle as an under 18? With some great passing to the forwards. But I may be wrong.

 

[Wooden Robot]

All he has to do is take the pressure of the kids and add something at the AFL level.

I don't care is Shorty gets smacked around bit. I care if some 18/19 year old gets smacked around.

yes he is outside and not a hard nut. He still plays the role in rebuilding our team for 5 years from now. That is what matters now. We aren't winning anything in the near term, But if we can develop our new draftees quickly then we will rebound with a vengeance and hopefully have a long period of contention.

So that he is soft etc, I don't care about. He has a role for a the next few years to help build our kids.

Please explain?

You've acknowledged he's soft and doesn't get near a contest, so how he is stopping anyone else from getting a 'smacking'?

They're in the direct line of fire doing what he should be doing.

At 29 early next year, he's not about to start crashing packs, laying shepherds and protecting teammates when he hasn't done it his whole career.

His one trick pony act of running past for cheap handballs is past its use by date as everyone cottoned on three years ago.

 

[TigerImposter]

Please explain?

You've acknowledged he's soft and doesn't get near a contest, so how he is stopping anyone else from getting a 'smacking'?

They're in the direct line of fire doing what he should be doing.

At 29 early next year, he's not about to start crashing packs, laying shepherds and protecting teammates when he hasn't done it his whole career.

His one trick pony act of running past for cheap handballs is past its use by date as everyone cottoned on three years ago.

Your last sentence is right now as every coach worked it out after around mid 22 . A bloke just follows him now and puts a slight bump on him and he torches it. He doesn’t have the space or freedom anymore and this is why he’d still fail as a small forward bc he wouldn’t get off the leash enough. He’s not skilled enough to win his own ball and finally he would offer less forward defensive pressure than what people are bagging Cumberland for doing.

 

[Dr Tigris]

Please explain?

You've acknowledged he's soft and doesn't get near a contest, so how he is stopping anyone else from getting a 'smacking'?

They're in the direct line of fire doing what he should be doing.

At 29 early next year, he's not about to start crashing packs, laying shepherds and protecting teammates when he hasn't done it his whole career.

His one trick pony act of running past for cheap handballs is past its use by date as everyone cottoned on three years ago.

All I am saying is that he can fill a role to help the young guys develop. If he is as useless as you say then we shoot him.

In my mind Short fills a role and in doing so helps the kids develop.

That's it.

I'm not coming back in this, it is pointless.

 

[kuncandellaway]

Too often he isnt getting into the right positions. And when he does get the ball he is incapable of making and executing effective disposals under pressure. He panics with unaccountable dump kicks down the line or handballs to players in a worse position.

He can't or won't break lines by foot or disposal.

Mentally and physically the game appears to have gone past him.

He played like a high-functioning heroin addict this year...or at least some of his dump kicks and attempted tackles made it seem that way.

Hope you're wrong about the game being past him...although mentally it did look that way.

Fingers crossed he pulls his finger out can return to somewhere near his best in 2025

 

[tunksy]

He’s gonna shine next year playing half back again.

 

[Hoos]

He’s gonna shine next year playing half back again.

He played there last year.

 

[Grrr]

He didn't play a team game last year, it was give it to me give it to me even if he was not in a good position to receive it.
Hope he plays a lot smarter this year, not every play has to go through you. Can anyone remember a block or a shepherd or a hard ball get.

I still think he has plenty to give, but he is not a half back anymore. I'd try him on the wing to utilise his long kicking out the back, forwards love it and backs hate it.

 

[lizard man]

What’s going to give this guy the boost he needs to get back to his best form? Simply being the number 1 rebounder without Rioli there? Or is it a positional change?

 

[Drunken Wookie]

What’s going to give this guy the boost he needs to get back to his best form? Simply being the number 1 rebounder without Rioli there? Or is it a positional change?

His skillset consists of being able to kick the ball a long way. He is not accountable, he is not an accurate kick, his decision making is slow and generally poor. Gone from a b&f when his 1 wood fit Dimma's gameplan perfectly to utterly dismal when asked to do anything more than 'kick ball far'.

 

[Grrr]

What’s going to give this guy the boost he needs to get back to his best form? Simply being the number 1 rebounder without Rioli there? Or is it a positional change?

I would say the wing, because it is one position where he can attack from but also use his knowledge of defence to help out. He could cause defences some trouble if he is kicking long to 30m out or kicking it to space out the back.

 

[Hoos]

Can anyone remember a block or a shepherd or a hard ball get.

Nope.

 

[lizard man]

There was this one moment in 2019 where despite injuring his elbow he continued on with trying to hit the ball away out of danger despite being clearly injured at the exact moment https://www.richmondfc.com.au/video...dal=true&type=video&publishFrom=1554531962001

 

[richoplzbreed]

There was this one moment in 2019 where despite injuring his elbow he continued on with trying to hit the ball away out of danger despite being clearly injured at the exact moment https://www.richmondfc.com.au/video...dal=true&type=video&publishFrom=1554531962001

Hey delete this. Can't have any comparitable players effort mentioned on bigfooty other than the time Jack Graham's herculean finals performance where he took on Field Marshall Rommel's panzer division single handedly armed with a sharpened toenail and emerged triumphantly missing an arm a leg and an inflamed case of haemorrhoids then a crocodile bit his fat guts out and his head went flying....

 

[tunksy]

He played there last year.

no daniel this time