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****, Polec is VERY impressive in that first video. For me he is emerging as the guy who really should go to us. Just powerful and quick, a real '80 metre' player.
I wonder how much, if at all, going missing in the 2nd half of an important final and shanking a kick which IIRC pretty much lost them the game will see him drop in the eyes of some recruiters.
I wonder how much, if at all, going missing in the 2nd half of an important final and shanking a kick which IIRC pretty much lost them the game will see him drop in the eyes of some recruiters.
I'd rather Yarran(blues) than Polec, his kicking is a real put off. But I don't think recruiters will look too much in to his 2nd half. He was a tired young player who hadn't experienced a tag. Both of which he can work on.
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Polec is indeed flashy but Smith seems to be a real cool head with a complete skills set. I'd liken Polec to Palmer and Smith to Dangerfield.
Note in that footage is Smith was made to be accountable playing half back.
Polec looked to be given a completely free run.
Polec is flashy but flawed.
Smith just doesn't stuff up and can break open a game.
Oh and kicking...Smith>Polec
Note in that footage is Smith was made to be accountable playing half back.
Polec looked to be given a completely free run.
Polec is flashy but flawed.
Smith just doesn't stuff up and can break open a game.
Oh and kicking...Smith>Polec
Heppell equal seventh in vertical jump
omg really? if heppell gets a good result in agility and sprint tests aswell he will be my preferred pick at 4.
Where did you find such info? didnt know it would be available already
ohk found it. What happened to day is he not at d camp or something? altey 64cm heppell 64cm equal 7th. Its probably between those two for pick 4 atm for me i reckon.
Sorry, was a bit of stupidity on my behalf. *edited*
http://www.afl.com.au/nab afl draft combine/tabid/780/default.aspx
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/103372/default.aspx
http://www.afl.com.au/tabid/16674/Default.aspx
Wierd, whole day and all they've got is vertical leaps? Doesn't sound too organised.
They did all the interviews as well. Probably a lot of induction type stuff as well.
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why have they changed the name to draft combine?? isn't that what the american's call it?? i don't know why but it really irks me. the two words don't even go together.
Reviewing a few of the prominent names on the "Total Access" show, Darling's profile was still 94kg/191cm.
As they tested those measurements this afternoon that might be current, but i think it is more likely taken from his profile page on AFL.com.au.
Either way it's not like he's suddenly shot up and an inch in a few weeks
"Certain first round choice" in Shifter's view. But he says that about everyone
As they tested those measurements this afternoon that might be current, but i think it is more likely taken from his profile page on AFL.com.au.
Either way it's not like he's suddenly shot up and an inch in a few weeks
"Certain first round choice" in Shifter's view. But he says that about everyone
We shouldn't be worried about Darlings height. As long as he doesn't move like he's 198cm, being 191 shouldn't matter too much.
The query I'd have is whether or not his game would translate to AFL. It's all good being stronger than 17 year olds when you've 10kg on your opponents but is he going to be a hard arse, strong guy at AFL level?
History suggests we don't shy away from early developers (Waters, Hurn, Brown) but then again, Darling is a forward who chases, and that runs counter to our "don't worry too much" forward line defensive scheme.
The query I'd have is whether or not his game would translate to AFL. It's all good being stronger than 17 year olds when you've 10kg on your opponents but is he going to be a hard arse, strong guy at AFL level?
History suggests we don't shy away from early developers (Waters, Hurn, Brown) but then again, Darling is a forward who chases, and that runs counter to our "don't worry too much" forward line defensive scheme.
No problem with Smith's penetration but 90% of his kicks while moving are bombed long, he certainly does not have anywhere near the precision of Heppell. Perhaps the long kicking is also a product of slow or poor decision making under pressure, another one of Heppells strengths.
Again, I like him, but I think he is surplus to our needs.
Does Polec have a right foot? He gets in trouble a few times when he should have used his non-preferred side.
I saw him use it in that video, also he snaps a lovely goal with it in the U18 champs footage of him on youtube.
Haven't seen him spear a pass with it yet though, and I think he likes to get onto his left wherever possible, ala Hill.
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It must be said the footage is taken from SANFL finals.
Players across all leagues (AFL, WAFL etc) kick longer in finals.
The vision of Smith in the 18's Championship was also a wet day in Melbourne, all players are more likely to kick long.
Don't get me wrong, I am a big fan of Heppell.
I think what I am saying is Smith is a better prospect than Polec.
If the Eagles take Heppell before Smith then I'll trust it was an informed, calculated decision.
If they take Polec however...
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Who is the best kick?
We should be drafting the midfielder with the best kick.
It sounds like Heppell fits that description, even though he plays off the backline.
Too many people are falling for the "we must draft an outside mid" not the case. Look at St kilda, playing in there third grand final in 2 years. How many outside mids do they have?
What they do have is players that have great kicking skills and can win the hard ball. I haven't seen much of polec but apparently his kicking isn't all that flash at times. Don't care how quick he is, we need players who can hit targets.
We should be drafting the midfielder with the best kick.
It sounds like Heppell fits that description, even though he plays off the backline.
Too many people are falling for the "we must draft an outside mid" not the case. Look at St kilda, playing in there third grand final in 2 years. How many outside mids do they have?
What they do have is players that have great kicking skills and can win the hard ball. I haven't seen much of polec but apparently his kicking isn't all that flash at times. Don't care how quick he is, we need players who can hit targets.
Lack of speedy outside mids is still a concern of St Kilda's team and they tried to address that with Lovett and Peake in the off season but Montagna, Dal & Goddard all have outside games and are pretty decent players.
I am unsure with heppells kick whether it is truly elite. it may be the best in the draft but that aint mean its elite. He needs to show that he's got a little bit of athleticism and dash to go with it.
64cm vertical leap is a good start.
64cm vertical leap is a good start.
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As far as kicking skills pre draft combine.
Jayden Pitt
Blayne Wilson
Dyson Heppell
Polec, Smith and Caddy
Gaff and Atley
Jayden Pitt
Blayne Wilson
Dyson Heppell
Polec, Smith and Caddy
Gaff and Atley
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We should be drafting the best midfielder.
Kicking plays the largest part in that but to ignore the things that compliment kicking is foolish.
A player with an elite kick is not useful if they are not quick/fit enough to find/create space across four quarters.
Teams are too well drilled to allow great kicks to be given the ball.
If they are also a liability defensively then they don't deserve to take the field.
A missed tackle is more deflating than an average kick.
Heppell is the best kick.
If he shows above average speed and endurance we will take him I'd guess.
What day are the speed tests?
Kicking plays the largest part in that but to ignore the things that compliment kicking is foolish.
A player with an elite kick is not useful if they are not quick/fit enough to find/create space across four quarters.
Teams are too well drilled to allow great kicks to be given the ball.
If they are also a liability defensively then they don't deserve to take the field.
A missed tackle is more deflating than an average kick.
Heppell is the best kick.
If he shows above average speed and endurance we will take him I'd guess.
What day are the speed tests?
Tomorrow i believe for most of the speed and agility type tests.
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Am liking the look of Heppell more and more.
Good vertical leap to go with a good overhead mark.
He has also played his best football recently in the midfield so we would hardly be drafting just another HBF.
In fact he has the draw card of being versatile.
I would also like to add that whilst footskills should be a priority, so should decision making. Something he seems to have over Polec. He also seems like a one touch player with a fantastic clean pickup.
Also still prefer Smith to Polec in that limited amount of footage. Whilst it was nice to see Polec have a few shots on goal, he missed most and didn't really look to give the ball off. Whilst Polecs evasiveness was great, Smith seemed to make good decisions in close when choosing to give the ball off, instead of just relying on superior athleticism.
Good vertical leap to go with a good overhead mark.
He has also played his best football recently in the midfield so we would hardly be drafting just another HBF.
In fact he has the draw card of being versatile.
I would also like to add that whilst footskills should be a priority, so should decision making. Something he seems to have over Polec. He also seems like a one touch player with a fantastic clean pickup.
Also still prefer Smith to Polec in that limited amount of footage. Whilst it was nice to see Polec have a few shots on goal, he missed most and didn't really look to give the ball off. Whilst Polecs evasiveness was great, Smith seemed to make good decisions in close when choosing to give the ball off, instead of just relying on superior athleticism.
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