Certified Legendary Thread 2 x Premiership Coach Chris Scott contracted to 2026 (aka the Chris Scott volumes

[Goggin Our Best]

Oh well looks like another 3 years of bombing out in finals with limp performances, followed by a politician answer as to why it "wasn't our night". Scott must really have sick twisted vision of some of the board members or something?

Geel making the finals - and continually failing - been found out - the short passing - slow motion stuff - with finals type pressure - falls to bits - that is why most posters who are advocating a change of coach - that is the primary reason

Geel making the finals and continually failing - well its a bit like Mike Atherton facing Glenn McGrath - just continual failure

Re this missfits rubbish - re the defence - that should be thrown to buggeryy - that nice little cosy arrangement theve got - and Stewart B/F winner and all the rest of it - is one of the main culprits - someone at FB with the ball - and Stewart 9-10 metres away screaming for the short pass - that is Rubbish football - and needs to be radically changed - thats why posters including myself - would like a change of coach

Contrast that to Melb ( and Geel supporters should be most graceful that in the last 35 minutes of that PF - that Melb took their foot off the gas - otherwise the end result would have been a 120-130 point flogging - that was the real difference between the teams - not 83 pts ) Simon Goodwin came out after the 1st final win against Bris - and said - we train very hard - like match simulation - and we are very confident that our brand of football will stand up under the fiercest pressure

Thats the big difference - Melb have got a great brand of football - where as Geel have a rubbish/junk brand ( but it does beat average and weak teams ) - thats why some supporters want a change of senior coach

 

[Partridge]

Yes..22 finals in ten years..amazing achievement...especially when you consider the previous post...

Is it? When almost half the competition plays finals and we've got a fantastic home ground advantage?

It's solid, but the win/loss ratio is far more important than just getting there. Especially considering how often we've finished top 4.

 

[Spazz Cat]

My question is where do people think the success comes from? Someone posted before what draft picks our whole list has come from- it’s amazing reading - so many late picks and rookies - with of course a fair fee trades most of which have been serviceable - to me there are 3 domains

1. Location and culture- Geelong have an amazing club culture in terms of wellbeing and lifestyle - this is because they are good people but it’s also smart as it doubles down our competitive advantage for the come home factor (falcons factory) and also regional lifestyle for country players. We also have a true home ground which is unique albeit for 9 games

2. we have the best recruiters who have consistently turned rookies and mid to late draft picks into quality players - coaches get some credit here of course but not sure player development is Scotty’s domain

3. We have Chris Scott who has the best coaching record in H &A and gets big ticks for 11, 13(? Hawthorn prelim) 2019-20 (Hawkins out in 19 and we were very competitive) and almost won in 20. But other years I think we weren’t just beaten by a better side our game just broke down - there’s a big difference between a competitive 3-6 goal loss and being dysfunctional - but that’s clearly an ABOVE average CV. You read though that he doesn’t have a great relationship with younger players although maybe is making an effort to improve this

But I think our success is more born of 1 and 2 then 3 - albeit 3 has done well. If you told me Geelong had to relocate to melb and or we were getting in a completely untried recruiting department I would be much more nervous buying ten year stocks then if Scott moved on. I don’t buy the players let us down in big games BS - you succeed and fail together - it’s a failure of the coaches too and game plan matters - in high pressure and against the best I would much rather be playing surge rather than precision football

The percentage chance of choking in a discipline like javelin or shot put or a marathon would arguably be lower then balance beam in gym or putting in the masters

This stuff matters, having said that if Scotty drinks the new flavour cool aide then we will be fine - still can’t see an argument As to why we go for three years though?!







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Lame phrases I know. But mateship. Team work. One goal.
Everyone at different ages. Some coming to the town to settle with family and buy a nice house.
While some young ones just trying to get a game so their career doesn't die before it gets started.
4 players in particular that are just above everyone else.
That just doesn't work.
Banning Gatorade showers and that? Banners? Fun?
Look at Richmond last year. Grabbing each other on the nuts and stuff. Mates enjoying it together.
Max Gawn when he bought the team out against us for the final.
Just enjoying it.
Like what Bartel said to Varcoe before the 11 GF. Let's go out and have some fun.
It's what makes success in an industry such as this IMO.

 

[geelong_crazy26]

I still don't understand why you created so many threads in 2015-2016 stating Geelong will become the best team in the competition if you are now back-peddling and implying we only ever had one superstar named Dangerfield?
In fact, go back over the years and there is constant talk of just how good our list has been.

It was at fever pitch this season when Brisbane sneaked into the top four and our supporters realized we were heading to Port Adelaide as most felt we were a sure thing to knock them off and go do some damage now that we had a formidable forward line. How was Aliir and Jonas suppose to stop all of Hawkins, Rohan and Cameron right?

if I created a thread stating we will become the best team in the competition and we ended up going down only after 3qtr time in a grand final, I was pretty damn close to the money. I trust your word because you are very interested in my threads beyond my own recollection. you seem to remember every post I made over a ten year period which is remarkable attention you pay me.

Well let’s take a look if you’d like?? I have already done it before but would you like to do your own post showing since the 2010 end of season till current, the ins and outs of the geelong football club? Including AA’s brownlows norm smiths, and also include draft picks we have used.

it is a very tilted table and remarkable we made a gf somehow last year

 

[Danger handballs we win]

Lame phrases I know. But mateship. Team work. One goal.
Everyone at different ages. Some coming to the town to settle with family and buy a nice house.
While some young ones just trying to get a game so their career doesn't die before it gets started.
4 players in particular that are just above everyone else.
That just doesn't work.
Banning Gatorade showers and that? Banners? Fun?
Look at Richmond last year. Grabbing each other on the nuts and stuff. Mates enjoying it together.
Max Gawn when he bought the team out against us for the final.
Just enjoying it.
Like what Bartel said to Varcoe before the 11 GF. Let's go out and have some fun.
It's what makes success in an industry such as this IMO.

James Kelly, Grigg and Betts are great additions for that! Go cats


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[dazbroncos]

Ex mod who applauded slow controlling ball movement should be not entering these discussions.

serial complainer, account changer and post deleter should not play the man and tell other people what to post.

now dont go complaining about people posting things about you after you did the exact same.

Go Catters

 

[Gee Class Loco]

Thats the big difference - Melb have got a great brand of football - where as Geel have a rubbish/junk brand ( but it does beat average and weak teams ) - thats why some supporters want a change of senior coach

TBH a great team can turn anything into a great brand.
Melb is just a copy of the Tigers with a few tweaks and some differences in personel.
Good on them. They have a few genuine STARS and quite a few A graders to boot. with their bottom 6 contributing enough to make them the team they are.
Hit the best form at the right time. Great timing, which all teams look for. Timing their run to perfection without any hiccups.
As for our brand/junk brand. It most probably equates to a few extra wins and finals appearances. For the financial side of the business. It's a WIN WIN.
As for supporters & members... all we get is to gloat and have a laugh at work on Mondays after many H&A wins vs our colleagues teams.
So yes the brand isn't great when it falls apart but the same could be said of any brand when you give a below par individual performance as many of our players have done in the past.
As for change... I can see why some do as well. Like i can see why the majority don't. each 2 their own.
Cheers
*Oh just wondering where that post that was attributed to me came from..?? The 3 more years... the politician etc etc.
I don't think that came from me but it looks as if you are replying to me/it.
Anyway Chin Up. The Glass is always half full.

 

[geelong_crazy26]

For me I’m happy that I’ve followed a team that in my adult life that has made being a footy follower enjoyable.

Growing up my dad was in to footy as was my older brother but I didn’t pay much attention to it.

After living on the GC for a couple of years I returned to Melbourne in 2006 and started a job that meant I had quite a few workmates that were all right in to footy - I got tickets to games, boxes etc so got right in to it too. Fortunately for me, how good was the timing because I became the ultimate bandwagonner at the time.

Since then, 3 flags and watching a lot of great footy and star players. Lots of finals, lots of heart break and some really close ones. Despite the PF loss to the Hawks in 13 I left that game feeling I definitely got my money’s worth as a supporter/spectator - it was a cracking game!

2020 was such a close call - and for me, I was just bloody happy that after so many PF losses we made a GF!

Two of my best mates, one is a Carlton supporter and the other Essendon.

In the same 15 years (in the peak of early adulthood) I’ve been enjoying footy for the most part. Not sure what could be said about those guys though..

So am I in? Yep. If Chris believes he can coach the team and keep driving us towards success - I trust him and the club and I will keep enjoying watching footy like the supporter I am. I don’t have the time or energy to get so worked up about how they could maybe do things differently - especially when any changes made don’t guarantee and greater success than what we have already seen.

Footy clubs cannot remain at the top in perpetuity. The game is not geared that way. I can’t expect them to win every match nor can I expect them to be the leaders in game plan development for every year of my life. There will be ups & downs…[/I]

did I just read a post claiming making 2 grand finals and only missing the finals once in a ten year period was sacrificing long term success?? There is nothing short term about a decade long period Of finishing top four making prelims and grand finals.

I don’t know how anyone can call ten years short term sacrificing. There has been nothing short term about any of our approaches with their longevity

 

[Seeds]

serial complainer, account changer and post deleter should not play the man and tell other people what to post.

now dont go complaining about people posting things about you after you did the exact same.

Go Catters

im assuming your post here was sarcasm given you are doing exactly the thing you are having a go at for someone else doing?

 

[Seeds]

None of those players were gifted (Selwood, Ablett predate Scott). The Cats traded (mostly) high draft picks for ready to go players to stay competitive and relied on creative low draft picks to develop players. Fundamentally don’t understand your comment or where the free gifts are?


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Young 18 year old kids are no good to the current coach. Usually benefit the next coach. Older ready made players are Good to the current coach. The club traded away the young kids for ready made players to gift the current coach.

 

[Gee Class Loco]

i have gone over this many times before, but if you look at the ins and outs over Scott’s period it’s something like 14AA players out the door, and the inns don’t even come close over that period. We should have ended up a basket case of a club regardless of bringing in dangerfield who is only one player, the rest are mostly just solid C-B graders. Cameron only this year but he hardly even played or got fit.

do a chart of the ins and outs of that side from 2010 onwards and you will ask yourself “ how the heck did we play off in a grand final in 2020?”

Agreed.
I sit back a laugh when i think of these types of scenarios.
Scott asks Wells for a top ruckman to replace our AA Brad Ottens after the 2011 season.
Wells gives him HMac, Stanley, West, Stephenson, Dawson Simpson, Mitch Clark and the mercurial Zac Smith over the next 10 years.
Scott asks for some gun mids to replace Ling Corey GAJ and later on Bartel, SJ, Chappy & Kelly all AA players in their own right.
He got Smedts GHS CaddyShack Taylor Hunt Josh Cowan Lang Cocky.
It makes u laugh one minute and cry the next.

 

[geelong_crazy26]

Yep. But you get called entitled. What's wrong with being entitled?
I wish I was an entitled footy supporter as a kid instead of crying after Grand Finals.
It's the whole aim of the thing.

hawthorn won a majority of those flags during zoning days when they had access to very strong footy talent, irrelevant in today’s modern footy setting. Just pointing that out since you are obsessively bringing up that era as it’s got zero relevance.

hawthorn tried to copy geelongs method after 2016, mature recruits including a gun brownlow medalist AA who was still a champ last season.. so I am surprised how according to you they aren’t still a top four side given you claim it’s all dangerfield when hawks still have a gun like mitchel getting 30+ touches a week. How could they finish bottom four with a dangerfield champ like that??

anyway, I will get more to my point, hawthorn attempted to bring in mature recruits and continue to be a powerhouse, but ultimately they dropped down into the bottom four still.

where they sit is not a choice, it’s a natural result that they couldn’t avoid despite trying everything we did. I doubt any sides could actually do what we have done as hawthorn failed at it already. Brisbane couldn’t after their flag, essendon Couldn’t, Richmond is now trying by getting tarrant.. let’s see how they go sustaining success.

it’s very difficult and there is no “ magic red top four button” like you keep making out

 

[Down at K Park]

hawthorn won a majority of those flags during zoning days when they had access to very strong footy talent, irrelevant in today’s modern footy setting. Just pointing that out since you are obsessively bringing up that era as it’s got zero relevance.

hawthorn tried to copy geelongs method after 2016, mature recruits including a gun brownlow medalist AA who was still a champ last season.. so I am surprised how according to you they aren’t still a top four side given you claim it’s all dangerfield when hawks still have a gun like mitchel getting 30+ touches a week. How could they finish bottom four with a dangerfield champ like that??

anyway, I will get more to my point, hawthorn attempted to bring in mature recruits and continue to be a powerhouse, but ultimately they dropped down into the bottom four still.

where they sit is not a choice, it’s a natural result that they couldn’t avoid despite trying everything we did. I doubt any sides could actually do what we have done as hawthorn failed at it already. Brisbane couldn’t after their flag, essendon Couldn’t, Richmond is now trying by getting tarrant.. let’s see how they go sustaining success.

it’s very difficult and there is no “ magic red top four button” like you keep making out

So you are saying topping up and failing is a dumb idea?

Exact opposite of what you have said for years.

 

[geelong_crazy26]

Agreed.
I sit back a laugh when i think of these types of scenarios.
Scott asks Wells for a top ruckman to replace our AA Brad Ottens after the 2011 season.
Wells gives him HMac, Stanley, West, Stephenson, Dawson Simpson, Mitch Clark and the mercurial Zac Smith over the next 10 years.
Scott asks for some gun mids to replace Ling Corey GAJ and later on Bartel, SJ, Chappy & Kelly all AA players in their own right.
He got Smedts GHS CaddyShack Taylor Hunt Josh Cowan Lang Cocky.
It makes u laugh one minute and cry the next.

honestly it’s exceptional coaching and administration to end up getting to the point we almost pinched a grand final… if you had some metric chart the value would almost be -250,000 points when you tally it up or something ala draft points system style.. honestly insane how much talent we lost and how little got brought in.

we have lost way more than other over the same period and brought in less in terms of draft picks and only 1 A grader in thru trades as Cameron has hardly played and only been 1 season so not counting him, and yet we still outplayed most of these sides who have had more talent and stock to work with.

 

[geelong_crazy26]

So you are saying topping up and failing is a dumb idea?

Exact opposite of what you have said for years.

how on earth did you come to that conclusion

 

[Art Vandelay_]

Exactly. Say what you want about that club, but they absolutely do not sit on past glories. They always look forward.

They could have easily cruised after 1978. They'd won 3 flags in 8 years. Amazing. Imagine all the fans saying "well I remember when we went 36 years without a flag, I'll be content to have seen 4 now, and 3 in pretty quick succession. And look at all the premiership players we've lost".

Funny thing is though, the club didn't agree. They reset, they won 5 in 9 years throughout the 1980s and in 1991. Even then, they didn't rest content, they then went back and won 4 in 8 years include three straight.

Unfortunately I still have the impression too many Geelong fans, and it seems some at the club, are perfectly content to be nice and finish 2nd. The excuses are just never ending. It's absolutely reasonable to think after 2011 we may not have won 3 or 4 premierships. But I refuse to believe when you make 6 prelim finals, and with the players THE CLUB DELIBERATELY BROUGHT IN TO WIN FINALS (don't forget that part), that they shouldn't have won 1 or 2 in that time.

On the back of a rotational zone system that stopped rotating.
Carlton and Hawthorn in particular got a very favourable hand in an inequitable system.

How they’d have fared had their complaint to the VFL about giving up their prosperous zones fell on deaf ears is a giant unknown. But hard to see either club having won as many premierships in that period.

 

[Spazz Cat]

hawthorn won a majority of those flags during zoning days when they had access to very strong footy talent, irrelevant in today’s modern footy setting. Just pointing that out since you are obsessively bringing up that era as it’s got zero relevance.

hawthorn tried to copy geelongs method after 2016, mature recruits including a gun brownlow medalist AA who was still a champ last season.. so I am surprised how according to you they aren’t still a top four side given you claim it’s all dangerfield when hawks still have a gun like mitchel getting 30+ touches a week. How could they finish bottom four with a dangerfield champ like that??

anyway, I will get more to my point, hawthorn attempted to bring in mature recruits and continue to be a powerhouse, but ultimately they dropped down into the bottom four still.

where they sit is not a choice, it’s a natural result that they couldn’t avoid despite trying everything we did. I doubt any sides could actually do what we have done as hawthorn failed at it already. Brisbane couldn’t after their flag, essendon Couldn’t, Richmond is now trying by getting tarrant.. let’s see how they go sustaining success.

it’s very difficult and there is no “ magic red top four button” like you keep making out

Obsessively!! Boy the Scott boys love a bit of gaslighting.
I suppose why not? They don't get reported.
I'm not making out a magic finals button.
Pointing out that teams lose players. Even good ones!
They don't all play for 5000 games.
After 11 years maybe it's time to give the old AA players a rest.
What's your limit with that? 20 years? 30?
When did Michael Turner retire? Rotten luck he left back in the 80's. He should be playing now.

 

[Vdubs]

Exactly. Say what you want about that club, but they absolutely do not sit on past glories. They always look forward.

They could have easily cruised after 1978. They'd won 3 flags in 8 years. Amazing. Imagine all the fans saying "well I remember when we went 36 years without a flag, I'll be content to have seen 4 now, and 3 in pretty quick succession. And look at all the premiership players we've lost".

Funny thing is though, the club didn't agree. They reset, they won 5 in 9 years throughout the 1980s and in 1991. Even then, they didn't rest content, they then went back and won 4 in 8 years include three straight.

Unfortunately I still have the impression too many Geelong fans, and it seems some at the club, are perfectly content to be nice and finish 2nd. The excuses are just never ending. It's absolutely reasonable to think after 2011 we may not have won 3 or 4 premierships. But I refuse to believe when you make 6 prelim finals, and with the players THE CLUB DELIBERATELY BROUGHT IN TO WIN FINALS (don't forget that part), that they shouldn't have won 1 or 2 in that time.

So what, I say. We could not even win 08 or 2010 with vastly superior teams.
We tried, made top 4 and were not good enough. Ditto 67, 89, 92, 94, 95....
Any Geelong team, that wins a GF, has to be that much better than any team whose HG is the G, when we play them in a GF in Melbourne.
The last 2 years are self-explanatory as to why we were not up to it.

 

[Gee Class Loco]

Young 18 year old kids are no good to the current coach. Usually benefit the next coach. Older ready made players are Good to the current coach. The club traded away the young kids for ready made players to gift the current coach.

What kids were traded away??
Dean Gore is one i remember... thrown in for the Danger trade with pick #10 Milera. i think that might of been a good move??
Josh Caddy an older player for pick 24 B.Parfitt.
T. Hunt was traded away along with the likes of Murdoch, GHS, Kersten, Hamling, Gardiner, Bundy.
Stanley came in for pick 21? Hugh Goddard??
Not sure what we gave up for Tuohy... whatever it was it was a bargain.
Hendo?? Not sure again...
But back to the kids we traded away. Who were these kids you talk of??

 

[Spazz Cat]

On the back of a rotational zone system that stopped rotating.
Carlton and Hawthorn in particular got a very favourable hand in an inequitable system.

How they’d have fared had their complaint to the VFL about giving up their prosperous zones fell on deaf ears is a giant unknown. But hard to see either club having won as many premierships in that period.

So did we. We had a really good zone.
Hawthorn and Carlton did it with money more than zones.
Both clubs had some wealthy people pumping serious money into those clubs.
Same as North when they first one their flags.

 

[Gavin Excell]

Geel making the finals - and continually failing - been found out - the short passing - slow motion stuff - with finals type pressure - falls to bits - that is why most posters who are advocating a change of coach - that is the primary reason

Geel making the finals and continually failing - well its a bit like Mike Atherton facing Glenn McGrath - just continual failure

Re this missfits rubbish - re the defence - that should be thrown to buggeryy - that nice little cosy arrangement theve got - and Stewart B/F winner and all the rest of it - is one of the main culprits - someone at FB with the ball - and Stewart 9-10 metres away screaming for the short pass - that is Rubbish football - and needs to be radically changed - thats why posters including myself - would like a change of coach

Contrast that to Melb ( and Geel supporters should be most graceful that in the last 35 minutes of that PF - that Melb took their foot off the gas - otherwise the end result would have been a 120-130 point flogging - that was the real difference between the teams - not 83 pts ) Simon Goodwin came out after the 1st final win against Bris - and said - we train very hard - like match simulation - and we are very confident that our brand of football will stand up under the fiercest pressure

Thats the big difference - Melb have got a great brand of football - where as Geel have a rubbish/junk brand ( but it does beat average and weak teams ) - thats why some supporters want a change of senior coach

Exactly
And to think we have 2 Coleman Medallist’s in our forward line yet we refuse to move the ball quickly to them

 

[Art Vandelay_]

So did we. We had a really good zone.
Hawthorn and Carlton did it with money more than zones.
Both clubs had some wealthy people pumping serious money into those clubs.
Same as North when they first one their flags.

North got their flags largely due to the 10 year rule. Influx of talent followed.

That we had a great zone is beside the point, we were financially unsound as a club from the 70s until Cook/Costa arrived so not in the same position to dominate the competition.

The assertion was about how good Hawthorn have been at reproducing dominance, but overlooked a major factor in achieving that. That's all I commented on.

 

[Spazz Cat]

North got their flags largely due to the 10 year rule. Influx of talent followed.

That we had a great zone is beside the point, we were financially unsound as a club from the 70s until Cook/Costa arrived so not in the same position to dominate the competition.

The assertion was about how good Hawthorn have been at reproducing dominance, but overlooked a major factor in achieving that. That's all I commented on.

I agree with you overall. They had big advantages
Just saying it was more money than zones and the 10 year rule.
The Dogs got the best players all around that era. But had to sell them to stay afloat.
Those teams had the financial backing to keep their players.
No salary cap.

 

[Down at K Park]

how on earth did you come to that conclusion

You said hawthorn tried to copy us and failed. We have failed at it as well. Both have no flags by doing it.

 

[Down at K Park]

Exactly
And to think we have 2 Coleman Medallist’s in our forward line yet we refuse to move the ball quickly to them

The whole slow build up rubbish just allows our opponents to flood back, and set their defense up. No wonder we struggle to score in finals.

Chris scott does a great stevie wonder impersonation though.