Certified Legendary Thread 2 x Premiership Coach Chris Scott contracted to 2026 (aka the Chris Scott volumes

[bloodygoose]

LOL you are telling me the head coach of the team had no impact or decisions on our list profile and incoming players? We have Danger recruiting players FFS what makes you think the head coach is not involved... Delusional and an excuse to not take responsibility for what IS ultimately his responsibility - our list.

The head coach of course has a say, but he and the list management team have one hand tied behind their back - staying competitive (a board decision) means low draft picks. So the club got creative with speculative picks (Evans), mature trades (Smith), Cat B (Blicavs) and late maturing drafts (Stewart, Atkins). So Scott has done wonders with the cards he has been dealt. That’s not delusional or an excuse.


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[Gee Class Loco]

No my point is the omissions we had would have barely made any difference, and pretending that they would have is ignoring reality that smashed the team in the face in September. And may get much worse.

Barely made any difference ? The team minus T.Stewart, B.Parfitt and MOC shouldn't have missed a beat??
Ok we'll just have to agree to disagree.
Cheers

 

[Danger handballs we win]

My question is where do people think the success comes from? Someone posted before what draft picks our whole list has come from- it’s amazing reading - so many late picks and rookies - with of course a fair fee trades most of which have been serviceable - to me there are 3 domains

1. Location and culture- Geelong have an amazing club culture in terms of wellbeing and lifestyle - this is because they are good people but it’s also smart as it doubles down our competitive advantage for the come home factor (falcons factory) and also regional lifestyle for country players. We also have a true home ground which is unique albeit for 9 games

2. we have the best recruiters who have consistently turned rookies and mid to late draft picks into quality players - coaches get some credit here of course but not sure player development is Scotty’s domain

3. We have Chris Scott

Chris Scott

Age

48

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182cm

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89kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

16.6

4star

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11.2

4star

HB

5.4

4star

M

5.1

5star

T

1.6

4star

G

0.4

3star

No current season stats available

D

13.2

4star

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10.2

4star

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3.0

3star

M

2.2

3star

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2.8

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0.4

3star

who has the best coaching record in H &A and gets big ticks for 11, 13(? Hawthorn prelim) 2019-20 (Hawkins out in 19 and we were very competitive) and almost won in 20. But other years I think we weren’t just beaten by a better side our game just broke down - there’s a big difference between a competitive 3-6 goal loss and being dysfunctional - but that’s clearly an ABOVE average CV. You read though that he doesn’t have a great relationship with younger players although maybe is making an effort to improve this

But I think our success is more born of 1 and 2 then 3 - albeit 3 has done well. If you told me Geelong had to relocate to melb and or we were getting in a completely untried recruiting department I would be much more nervous buying ten year stocks then if Scott moved on. I don’t buy the players let us down in big games BS - you succeed and fail together - it’s a failure of the coaches too and game plan matters - in high pressure and against the best I would much rather be playing surge rather than precision football

The percentage chance of choking in a discipline like javelin or shot put or a marathon would arguably be lower then balance beam in gym or putting in the masters

This stuff matters, having said that if Scotty drinks the new flavour cool aide then we will be fine - still can’t see an argument As to why we go for three years though?!







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[Warhorse]

Have to look at what the club wants to achieve, and that is to extract as much money from supporters as possible. The best way to do this is to continually make finals hence the extension of Scott.

 

[Gavin Excell]

True but it doesn't change my statement .

They also brutalised the Dogs ... no one was stopping them this year.

And there's a reasonable argument Melb, Dogs and Port with their list profile will only get better

 

[Seeds]

The head coach of course has a say, but he and the list management team have one hand tied behind their back - staying competitive (a board decision) means low draft picks. So the club got creative with speculative picks (Evans), mature trades (Smith), Cat B (Blicavs) and late maturing drafts (Stewart, Atkins). So Scott has done wonders with the cards he has been dealt. That’s not delusional or an excuse.


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Wtf? Scott got given ready made gun players. He was given a massive charity gift by the board. Your argument is effing bonkers delusional to some how swing that to scott been given a tough hand by the board. It wouod of been harder if the board gave him picks rather then traded for guns as he wouod of had to face a number of years at the bottom making it harder to keep his job.

smith helped him. And funny how you ignored scott being gifted danger, henderson, selwood, stanley, ablett, touhy, rohan, caddy, dalhaus, cameron And probably 3-4 others i cant even remember there is so many.

 

[bloodygoose]

Wtf? Scott got given ready made gun players. He was given a massive charity gift by the board. Your argument is effing bonkers delusional to some how swing that to scott been given a tough hand by the board. It wouod of been harder if the board gave him picks rather then traded for guns as he wouod of had to face a number of years at the bottom making it harder to keep his job.

smith helped him. And funny how you ignored scott being gifted danger, henderson, selwood, stanley, ablett, touhy, rohan, caddy, dalhaus, cameron And probably 3-4 others i cant even remember there is so many.

None of those players were gifted (Selwood, Ablett predate Scott). The Cats traded (mostly) high draft picks for ready to go players to stay competitive and relied on creative low draft picks to develop players. Fundamentally don’t understand your comment or where the free gifts are?


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[Gee Class Loco]

Have to look at what the club wants to achieve, and that is to extract as much money from supporters as possible. The best way to do this is to continually make finals hence the extension of Scott.

I hate to let the cat outta the bag.... But that is what every club aims for, the rest is secondary.
It's not just supporters money, it's also sponsors/benefactors, their money is what clubs want.
Whether it your GFL side, your GDFL or BFL side. It's the same.
Money is the Number 1 factor in the sports industry.

 

[Down at K Park]

Yes..22 finals in ten years..amazing achievement...especially when you consider the previous post...

And i guess only winning a third of those games is an amazing achievement too?

True but it doesn't change my statement .

They also brutalised the Dogs ... no one was stopping them this year.

I wonder if dogs supporters use being 19 points up in the 3rd, to justify how close they came to winning like some supporters do here, cause we were ahead in the 3rd last year

 

[afl genius]

Oh well looks like another 3 years of bombing out in finals with limp performances, followed by a politician answer as to why it "wasn't our night". Scott must really have sick twisted vision of some of the board members or something?

 

[Tackle_happy]

Oh well looks like another 3 years of bombing out in finals with limp performances, followed by a politician answer as to why it "wasn't our night". Scott must really have sick twisted vision of some of the board members or something?

Who knows? They might totally surprise us all and finish 17th. That's new and fresh.

 

[Biggy_Boy]

Oh well looks like another 3 years of bombing out in finals with limp performances, followed by a politician answer as to why it "wasn't our night". Scott must really have sick twisted vision of some of the board members or something?

Doubt it. With our list, 2022 is probably the last time we could make finals under Scott. 2021 might have even been his last finals coaching performance.

 

[geelong_crazy26]

None of those players were gifted (Selwood, Ablett predate Scott). The Cats traded (mostly) high draft picks for ready to go players to stay competitive and relied on creative low draft picks to develop players. Fundamentally don’t understand your comment or where the free gifts are?


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i have gone over this many times before, but if you look at the ins and outs over Scott’s period it’s something like 14AA players out the door, and the inns don’t even come close over that period. We should have ended up a basket case of a club regardless of bringing in dangerfield who is only one player, the rest are mostly just solid C-B graders. Cameron only this year but he hardly even played or got fit.

do a chart of the ins and outs of that side from 2010 onwards and you will ask yourself “ how the heck did we play off in a grand final in 2020?”

 

[My Tilly]

i have gone over this many times before, but if you look at the ins and outs over Scott’s period it’s something like 14AA players out the door, and the inns don’t even come close over that period. We should have ended up a basket case of a club regardless of bringing in dangerfield who is only one player, the rest are mostly just solid C-B graders. Cameron only this year but he hardly even played or got fit.

do a chart of the ins and outs of that side from 2010 onwards and you will ask yourself “ how the heck did we play off in a grand final in 2020?”

I still don't understand why you created so many threads in 2015-2016 stating Geelong will become the best team in the competition if you are now back-peddling and implying we only ever had one superstar named Dangerfield?
In fact, go back over the years and there is constant talk of just how good our list has been.

It was at fever pitch this season when Brisbane sneaked into the top four and our supporters realized we were heading to Port Adelaide as most felt we were a sure thing to knock them off and go do some damage now that we had a formidable forward line. How was Aliir and Jonas suppose to stop all of Hawkins, Rohan and Cameron right?

 

[CharacterFirst]

He is, and that's why we still have him.

This may be slightly sacreligious...

Yes. A little.

God is merciful and gracious. He will forgive.

In your case Vdubs, He has already forgiven you as you know and love Jesus.

 

[Vdubs]

Have to look at what the club wants to achieve, and that is to extract as much money from supporters as possible. The best way to do this is to continually make finals hence the extension of Scott.

If a team does not make finals, no chance of winning a flag.
Sometimes, there is a very fortuitous prefinals bye that makes all the difference.Dogs do NOT win 16 without it.
A lot of CS's planning and player management was predicated on that bye- which we did not get, and was announced too late to rectify.
It is evident we tired badly end season, plus injuries, plus illness , but we were a worthy top 4 aspirant.
Next year may be more challenging to make top 4 for sure

 

[Spazz Cat]

I know it's crazy. But once even Hawthorn lost good players.
Platten, Dunstall, Ayers, Brereton, Jarman, Pritchard, Buckanarra, Dippa + heaps more.
Maybe even more than 14.
They all left before they played 5000 games!
Should of just shut the place down. Never going to win another flag if you lose players. No point trying.
When they got bundled out of the 2011 finals, they shouldn't have been upset.
They lost Leigh Matthews and Peter Hudson. They had no chance.

 

[Spazz Cat]

And i guess only winning a third of those games is an amazing achievement too?



I wonder if dogs supporters use being 19 points up in the 3rd, to justify how close they came to winning like some supporters do here, cause we were ahead in the 3rd last year

Virus.

 

[Spazz Cat]

My favourite excuse is well if (insert team) didn't have those players they had and we had them instead. We would've won.
Well yes. I suppose we would've of.

 

[Poetic Justice]

I just have higher standards than you - no big deal. You are happy getting embarrassed in finals - I would like us to at least be competitive considering how much we have sacrificed our longer term success by choosing older proven players over young talent/draft picks.

For me I’m happy that I’ve followed a team that in my adult life that has made being a footy follower enjoyable.

Growing up my dad was in to footy as was my older brother but I didn’t pay much attention to it.

After living on the GC for a couple of years I returned to Melbourne in 2006 and started a job that meant I had quite a few workmates that were all right in to footy - I got tickets to games, boxes etc so got right in to it too. Fortunately for me, how good was the timing because I became the ultimate bandwagonner at the time.

Since then, 3 flags and watching a lot of great footy and star players. Lots of finals, lots of heart break and some really close ones. Despite the PF loss to the Hawks in 13 I left that game feeling I definitely got my money’s worth as a supporter/spectator - it was a cracking game!

2020 was such a close call - and for me, I was just bloody happy that after so many PF losses we made a GF!

Two of my best mates, one is a Carlton supporter and the other Essendon.

In the same 15 years (in the peak of early adulthood) I’ve been enjoying footy for the most part. Not sure what could be said about those guys though..

So am I in? Yep. If Chris believes he can coach the team and keep driving us towards success - I trust him and the club and I will keep enjoying watching footy like the supporter I am. I don’t have the time or energy to get so worked up about how they could maybe do things differently - especially when any changes made don’t guarantee and greater success than what we have already seen.

Footy clubs cannot remain at the top in perpetuity. The game is not geared that way. I can’t expect them to win every match nor can I expect them to be the leaders in game plan development for every year of my life. There will be ups & downs…[/I]

 

[My Tilly]

In the same 15 years (in the peak of early adulthood) I’ve been enjoying footy for the most part. Not sure what could be said about those guys though..

They'll be fine.
As middle aged men or older, they will now get to enjoy their footy again as it will be Essendon and Carlton playing in a lot of finals each year while you re-watch those premiership wins and agonizing finals defeats on YouTube

 

[Spazz Cat]

For me I’m happy that I’ve followed a team that in my adult life that has made being a footy follower enjoyable.

Growing up my dad was in to footy as was my older brother but I didn’t pay much attention to it.

After living on the GC for a couple of years I returned to Melbourne in 2006 and started a job that meant I had quite a few workmates that were all right in to footy - I got tickets to games, boxes etc so got right in to it too. Fortunately for me, how good was the timing because I became the ultimate bandwagonner at the time.

Since then, 3 flags and watching a lot of great footy and star players. Lots of finals, lots of heart break and some really close ones. Despite the PF loss to the Hawks in 13 I left that game feeling I definitely got my money’s worth as a supporter/spectator - it was a cracking game!

2020 was such a close call - and for me, I was just bloody happy that after so many PF losses we made a GF!

Two of my best mates, one is a Carlton supporter and the other Essendon.

In the same 15 years (in the peak of early adulthood) I’ve been enjoying footy for the most part. Not sure what could be said about those guys though..

So am I in? Yep. If Chris believes he can coach the team and keep driving us towards success - I trust him and the club and I will keep enjoying watching footy like the supporter I am. I don’t have the time or energy to get so worked up about how they could maybe do things differently - especially when any changes made don’t guarantee and greater success than what we have already seen.

Footy clubs cannot remain at the top in perpetuity. The game is not geared that way. I can’t expect them to win every match nor can I expect them to be the leaders in game plan development for every year of my life. There will be ups & downs…[/I]

That's the thing about going for a football club your whole life. Not just since the golden era.
Where you say Am I in? You just are anyway even if you can't stand the coach.
The current coach is a mere pebble on the beach of the clubs whole existence.
Not even a question.
The complainers aren't lesser supporters. We complained back in the hard days.
Still here. Won't be leaving. Will be around complaining during the next tough time.

 

[Partridge]

I know it's crazy. But once even Hawthorn lost good players.
Platten, Dunstall, Ayers, Brereton, Jarman, Pritchard, Buckanarra, Dippa + heaps more.
Maybe even more than 14.
They all left before they played 5000 games!
Should of just shut the place down. Never going to win another flag if you lose players. No point trying.
When they got bundled out of the 2011 finals, they shouldn't have been upset.
They lost Leigh Matthews and Peter Hudson. They had no chance.

Exactly. Say what you want about that club, but they absolutely do not sit on past glories. They always look forward.

They could have easily cruised after 1978. They'd won 3 flags in 8 years. Amazing. Imagine all the fans saying "well I remember when we went 36 years without a flag, I'll be content to have seen 4 now, and 3 in pretty quick succession. And look at all the premiership players we've lost".

Funny thing is though, the club didn't agree. They reset, they won 5 in 9 years throughout the 1980s and in 1991. Even then, they didn't rest content, they then went back and won 4 in 8 years include three straight.

Unfortunately I still have the impression too many Geelong fans, and it seems some at the club, are perfectly content to be nice and finish 2nd. The excuses are just never ending. It's absolutely reasonable to think after 2011 we may not have won 3 or 4 premierships. But I refuse to believe when you make 6 prelim finals, and with the players THE CLUB DELIBERATELY BROUGHT IN TO WIN FINALS (don't forget that part), that they shouldn't have won 1 or 2 in that time.

 

[Spazz Cat]

Exactly. Say what you want about that club, but they absolutely do not sit on past glories. They always look forward.

They could have easily cruised after 1978. They'd won 3 flags in 8 years. Amazing. Imagine all the fans saying "well I remember when we went 36 years without a flag, I'll be content to have seen 4 now, and 3 in pretty quick succession. And look at all the premiership players we've lost".

Funny thing is though, the club didn't agree. They reset, they won 5 in 9 years throughout the 1980s and in 1991. Even then, they didn't rest content, they then went back and won 4 in 8 years include three straight.

Unfortunately I still have the impression too many Geelong fans, and it seems some at the club, are perfectly content to be nice and finish 2nd. The excuses are just never ending. It's absolutely reasonable to think after 2011 we may not have won 3 or 4 premierships. But I refuse to believe when you make 6 prelim finals, and with the players THE CLUB DELIBERATELY BROUGHT IN TO WIN FINALS (don't forget that part), that they shouldn't have won 1 or 2 in that time.

Yep. But you get called entitled. What's wrong with being entitled?
I wish I was an entitled footy supporter as a kid instead of crying after Grand Finals.
It's the whole aim of the thing.

 

[Shadow89]

I know this is a forlorn hope but here goes..

There are differing opinions on Scott which is fine...but ridiculing those with a different opinion is neither helpful nor constructive...

Please be mindful of this from here on...

Here here. Hate the opinion not the poster is my motto