Certified Legendary Thread 2 x Premiership Coach Chris Scott contracted to 2026 (aka the Chris Scott volumes

[David the Cat]

LOL you are telling me the head coach of the team had no impact or decisions on our list profile and incoming players? We have Danger recruiting players FFS what makes you think the head coach is not involved... Delusional and an excuse to not take responsibility for what IS ultimately his responsibility - our list.

Your last two posts have focused more on other posters than the topic at hand...

Perhaps you missed my post asking posters to focus on the issues rather than personalities...just because a poster has a differing opinion doesnt make them "delusional"...on topic please...

 

[PhatBoy]

How are they insane if their methods have already been proven to work in the past?
Hawthorn is the last club Geelong supporters should be mocking. I know it's a filthy thing to say but they are the most successful club for a reason. They really aren't in it to make the finals like we are.
They expect to win and it's what their members and supporters demand.

I think you'll be blown away by Sam Mitchell's coaching. He's spent many years under the best and if his on field leadership is anything to go by, they'll more than alright moving forward.

But his onfield leadership isn’t anything to go by. He’s coaching, not captaining.

This is probably the thing that pisses people off: ‘they’re not in it to make finals like we are.’

You make it sound like we don’t want to win. It’s ridiculous. Of course we want to win, no one is playing, or coaching, or administrating just to get to finals. They are doing it because to win, you have to make finals and preferably top four. To suggest otherwise is ridiculous.

 

[My Tilly]

But his onfield leadership isn’t anything to go by. He’s coaching, not captaining.

This is probably the thing that pisses people off: ‘they’re not in it to make finals like we are.’

You make it sound like we don’t want to win. It’s ridiculous. Of course we want to win, no one is playing, or coaching, or administrating just to get to finals. They are doing it because to win, you have to make finals and preferably top four. To suggest otherwise is ridiculous.

Past teammates and those who played against him have said, Mitchell was like an on field coach telling blokes where to go, barking orders. Hodge another who did this.
Selwood for us does it all the time, likewise Steve Johnson.
It's no wonder they have gone into coaching or leadership roles.

The difference being, Hawthorn have accepted it's time to rebuild. They are prepared to trade away players still in their prime in the hopes of bringing in high draft picks.

Geelong still think they are a serious chance at winning the premiership. We recruited Cameron, Higgins and Smith for the sole reason of playing oldies to try and capitalize on this.
In reality, we are now further away from winning a flag than ever before. This is going to be such a bleak decline for our club after 2023. It's really going to test the resolve of many of our supporters.
Hawthorn at least get a head start on us having already snagged premierships after we did. By the time we have hit rock bottom, they are climbing back up again.

 

[Down at K Park]

how is being scores level 3qtr time of a grand final only 1 season ago being blown away in finals?? As it stands right now, the record is 7 prelim finals, 2 grand final appearances, 1 elimination, 1 semi final, and missing the 8 once, and ultimately one premiership.

2 grand final appearances in ten years and seven prelims is far from being blown away all the time in finals…. If you require 4 grand final appearances in ten years after experiencing 4 previous to that, you have delusional standards.

Is it 7 wins 15 finals losses in the last 10 years? So much success

 

[Vdubs]

I guess Hawthorn and Collingwood are going to finish lower next year considering they changed long serving coaches with no recent success. Hawthorn must be smoking crack according to you for them to kick out Clarkson who won 3 premierships in a team he developed himself. Sorry to say but Geelong is in no position to question Hawthorns methodologies considering they have been way more successful than us over a long period of time INCLUDING recent success where they bent us over in a grand final that we were supposed to win. The reality is if Chris Scott didn't steal a flag in his first season he would be on par with Nathan Buckley - how many of you considered Bucks a great coach?

No need to guess.
We have CS as our coach for at least 3 more years. He is not leaving a sinking ship, as many thought/hoped would happen. He sees himself fit enough and robust enough to lead us through the next little period of our history. I think that is great.
Could not care less what Clarko/ Hawks, Pies /Buckley have done- simply irrelevant.
Geelong is our team, and we follow no other gurus- we have our own agenda.

 

[Vdubs]

How are they insane if their methods have already been proven to work in the past?
Hawthorn is the last club Geelong supporters should be mocking. I know it's a filthy thing to say but they are the most successful club for a reason. They really aren't in it to make the finals like we are.
They expect to win and it's what their members and supporters demand.

I think you'll be blown away by Sam Mitchell's coaching. He's spent many years under the best and if his on field leadership is anything to go by, they'll more than alright moving forward.

And who would you nominate as our Sam Mitchell? Anybody? Selwood?

 

[My Tilly]

And who would you nominate as our Sam Mitchell? Anybody? Selwood?

Stewart maybe. He seems to be a very good speaker and does great work in the community. That suggests he's a natural born leader. Not many have that trait in them.
Selwood sure.
Dangerfield seems to do a lot of talking.

 

[PhatBoy]

Past teammates and those who played against him have said, Mitchell was like an on field coach telling blokes where to go, barking orders. Hodge another who did this.
Selwood for us does it all the time, likewise Steve Johnson.
It's no wonder they have gone into coaching or leadership roles.

The difference being, Hawthorn have accepted it's time to rebuild. They are prepared to trade away players still in their prime in the hopes of bringing in high draft picks.

Geelong still think they are a serious chance at winning the premiership. We recruited Cameron, Higgins and Smith for the sole reason of playing oldies to try and capitalize on this.
In reality, we are now further away from winning a flag than ever before. This is going to be such a bleak decline for our club after 2023. It's really going to test the resolve of many of our supporters.
Hawthorn at least get a head start on us having already snagged premierships after we did. By the time we have hit rock bottom, they are climbing back up again.

So we are 44 years away from winning a flag. Right. Good to know.

 

[PhatBoy]

Interesting that when Scott’s up for criticism it’s his tactics and game plan that are the only thing that matters.

Suddenly Jock McHale has a brown and gold rival because his leadership skills on the field were good

 

[My Tilly]

So we are 44 years away from winning a flag. Right. Good to know.

Nah won't be that long. The way the game is today and the ability to bring in mature recruits and free agents.

 

[PhatBoy]

Nah won't be that long. The way the game is today and the ability to bring in mature recruits and free agents.

So we aren’t further away from winning a flag than we’ve ever been. Ok. Confusing, but ok.

 

[Partridge]

Leave this here as an example of the decision the board would have to make to pull the trigger and move him on. An untried coach would never have been chosen over Scott given his record.

Perhaps, but Scott was untried when we appointed him. As was Thompson. And Hardwick. And Clarkson. And so on. It seems that more often than not opting for an untried coach works better than going for "proven" coaches. Be interesting to analyse and quantify.

 

[Partridge]

Ummm so without Stewart MOC Parfitt a banged up Danger and maybe a virus hanging around you expected the team to perform to a level to topple the best in September? Seriously?

Yes. West Coast went into a Grand final three years with three absolute guns missing - Natanui, Gaff, and Shepard - AND were five goals down. They absolutely performed at the level in September.

Always an excuse if you look hard enough. Whatever injuries we did have - and really they were pretty minor and only Stewart was key (which happens most years to most teams), it doesn't remotely excuse getting smashed by Port and then annihilated by Melbourne. Not even closely.

But keep clinging to it. It was injuries. Sure it was.

 

[Art Vandelay_]

Perhaps, but Scott was untried when we appointed him. As was Thompson. And Hardwick. And Clarkson. And so on. It seems that more often than not opting for an untried coach works better than going for "proven" coaches. Be interesting to analyse and quantify.

Big difference. We didn’t make the conscious decision to move Bomber on for someone untried. He quit.

We had no choice but to source a new coach. With his W/L we will not axe him for someone never having sat in the chair. He’ll get extended until 1. Performances drop away to needing to be sacked 2. He quits 3. An experienced coach who can be/is better is available.

 

[Heckler]

One of the more intelligent posts I’ve seen on Big Footy. The Cats board and CEO/leadership team set the strategy - we top-up and compete every year. It’s partly a commercial decision - the club can’t afford to bottom out and risk years in the wilderness.

Bereft of high draft picks, the list management team has topped up with older players. None of has been Chris Scott’s decision. His role is to develop a game plan to compete with the players he has. It’s worked in the home and away season but as we know it doesn’t deliver in finals.

Steve Hocking has returned with a change agenda. The President has clearly stated the strategy to stay competitive is not changing. But it seems to me the list management tactics and, as a consequence, the game plan is about to change.

So I’m rapt Scotty is staying - he is a talented coach - and I’m hoping we deliver a more nuanced game plan drawing on both experience and young talent where all players earn their spot and are not gifted games based on reputation.



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Everyone here wants the Cats to be successful and are pushing for changes to be made.
Many believe we should imitate how other teams play as a way forward.
That results in us following while they evolve and hoping to beat them at their own game.
The correct course is to develop a strategy to beat their game plan.

 

[Gee Class Loco]

Yes. West Coast went into a Grand final three years with three absolute guns missing - Natanui, Gaff, and Shepard - AND were five goals down. They absolutely performed at the level in September.

Always an excuse if you look hard enough. Whatever injuries we did have - and really they were pretty minor and only Stewart was key (which happens most years to most teams), it doesn't remotely excuse getting smashed by Port and then annihilated by Melbourne. Not even closely.

But keep clinging to it. It was injuries. Sure it was.

But Partridge…. We were not good enough. Weren’t you watching?
Did you actually think we were the best team running around in September?
Our players played terribly. They were pathetic.
Ask them and they’ll raise their hands and admit they were woeful.
Is that excuse? Nah just stating facts. 3 players down fact… and beaten by a better side Fact.
We were crap Fact.
Accept it. I have.

 

[Art Vandelay_]

Perhaps, but Scott was untried when we appointed him. As was Thompson. And Hardwick. And Clarkson. And so on. It seems that more often than not opting for an untried coach works better than going for "proven" coaches. Be interesting to analyse and quantify.

As for the crux of your point about untried coaches. Successful is far outweighed by Unsuccessful. As per catempire


222 out of 368 coaches in AFL history never coached in a final. That’s 60%.

259 out of 368 coaches in AFL history never won a final. That’s 70%

315 out of 368 coaches in AFL history or 85% never won a flag.

 

[David the Cat]

Is it 7 wins 15 finals losses in the last 10 years? So much success

Yes..22 finals in ten years..amazing achievement...especially when you consider the previous post...

 

[Partridge]

But Partridge…. We were not good enough. Weren’t you watching?
Did you actually think we were the best team running around in September?
Our players played terribly. They were pathetic.
Ask them and they’ll raise their hands and admit they were woeful.
Is that excuse? Nah just stating facts. 3 players down fact… and beaten by a better side Fact.
We were crap Fact.
Accept it. I have.

No my point is the omissions we had would have barely made any difference, and pretending that they would have is ignoring reality that smashed the team in the face in September. And may get much worse.

 

[Stocks_go_Up]

Big difference. We didn’t make the conscious decision to move Bomber on for someone untried. He quit.

We had no choice but to source a new coach. With his W/L we will not axe him for someone never having sat in the chair. He’ll get extended until 1. Performances drop away to needing to be sacked 2. He quits 3. An experienced coach who can be/is better is available.

Wait wait wait - your telling me that a coach who had just won two premierships and built the team himself leaving and being replaced with an unproven newcomer SOMEHOW produced a premiership in his first year based on a new voice and fresh ideas... But now the idea that Scott should leave and get replaced with a newcomer is considered the wrong decision by so many lololoololol.

 

[Art Vandelay_]

Wait wait wait - your telling me that a coach who had just won two premierships and built the team himself leaving and being replaced with an unproven newcomer SOMEHOW produced a premiership in his first year based on a new voice and fresh ideas... But now the idea that Scott should leave and get replaced with a newcomer is considered the wrong decision by so many lololoololol.

No. Re-read the comment again, alter the comprehension. Then get back to me.

Not at all what I am saying

 

[geelong_crazy26]

Past teammates and those who played against him have said, Mitchell was like an on field coach telling blokes where to go, barking orders. Hodge another who did this.
Selwood for us does it all the time, likewise Steve Johnson.
It's no wonder they have gone into coaching or leadership roles.

The difference being, Hawthorn have accepted it's time to rebuild. They are prepared to trade away players still in their prime in the hopes of bringing in high draft picks.

Geelong still think they are a serious chance at winning the premiership. We recruited Cameron, Higgins and Smith for the sole reason of playing oldies to try and capitalize on this.
In reality, we are now further away from winning a flag than ever before. This is going to be such a bleak decline for our club after 2023. It's really going to test the resolve of many of our supporters.
Hawthorn at least get a head start on us having already snagged premierships after we did. By the time we have hit rock bottom, they are climbing back up again.

what a horribly inaccurate post. Hawthorn accepted its time to rebuild because hawthorn finished bottom four and had no option, hawthorn kept trying to push for a flag as long as they were capable of finishing high up the ladder, they went into rebuild mode as they had no other option.

 

[Tackle_happy]

No my point is the omissions we had would have barely made any difference, and pretending that they would have is ignoring reality that smashed the team in the face in September. And may get much worse.

To be fair, Melbourne were the inform team all year and they rode that puppy home in a sprint.

They could do no wrong and it showed.

 

[Gavin Excell]

To be fair, Melbourne were the inform team all year and they rode that puppy home in a sprint.

They could do no wrong and it showed.

Port also made short work of us
Dogs would have done likewise had we played them

Fair bit off the best teams and unless something drastic changes with the game style we choose to play, I don't see much changing

 

[Tackle_happy]

Port also made short work of us
Dogs would have done likewise had we played them

Fair bit off the best teams and unless something drastic changes with the game style we choose to play, I don't see much changing

True but it doesn't change my statement .

They also brutalised the Dogs ... no one was stopping them this year.