Probably 3. Get over your dislike of him personally Phipppppa. He's a good coach.If CS contract is finalised how many more years do we have to cope with him?
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Probably 3. Get over your dislike of him personally Phipppppa. He's a good coach.If CS contract is finalised how many more years do we have to cope with him?
Probably 3. Get over your dislike of him personally Phipppppa. He's a good coach.
I’ll get over my dislike for him if we adopt a better game style.
He’s a good coach, but we need a change. If he’s there for 3 more years then no, I won’t all of a sudden fall into his arms and praise to him.
Little bit of revisionist history here. Gold Coast had 8 of the first 13 picks in that draft. Prestia went at 9 so he was well and truly off the table before our first pick at 15. Atley went next, good servant but hardly a star and Isaac Smith at 19. The next best pick was Cameron Guthrie who seems to have been a reasonable pick by Wells. Smedts was a bust but there were 3 earlier picks who played less games which goes to show that drafting is as much luck as skill. There was no one other than Gold Coast and GWS that were going to win from the draft in 2010 and 2011.Re the bolded - i think one point that should be made here
When the siren blew to end the 2011 GF - giving the Cats 3 flags in 5 years - Geelong had an opportunity to really dominate the comp
Just won the Premiership - and had 2 beautiful unused draft picks ( in the teens ) up their sleeve for the Ablett compensation ( and by the way - far better compensation than what the Hawks got in just pick 19 for Buddy )
Wells who has done a good job and all the rest of it - if he had nailed those picks - Geel could have had an extended run of dominance - but he wasted both picks - Smedts who had the reputation of a champion schoolboy footballer - he got sucked in by that - and he overlooked that Smedts had a very awkward ball drop when kicking - that should have put the line through him - in his memory bank should have been Tenace who had the seem problem - but he overlooked that fact somehow . And Caddy - re now Parfitt that was another wasted pick - pity he didnt use it on Caddys best mate Prestia
Those 2 high totally wasted lovely draft picks - was a turning point in Geelongs history
Little bit of revisionist history here. Gold Coast had 8 of the first 13 picks in that draft. Prestia went at 9 so he was well and truly off the table before our first pick at 15. Atley went next, good servant but hardly a star and Isaac Smith at 19. The next best pick was Cameron Guthrie who seems to have been a reasonable pick by Wells. Smedts was a bust but there were 3 earlier picks who played less games which goes to show that drafting is as much luck as skill. There was no one other than Gold Coast and GWS that were going to win from the draft in 2010 and 2011.
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Seems like a sinking ship. Clueless as what to do.
Change had to come though, hopefully it works.
The part where he talks about not knowing what to do, and asking other people their thoughts about where they should go from here. Maybe try reading the articleClueless based on what, the 0 games we’ve had to show it?
Perhaps you should read the article. Where exactly does it say he didn't know what to do? You would hope that if you bring in new coaches you would ask them what they thought should change and get a fresh perspective. Isn't that the whole idea behind swapping out a big chunk of the coaching staff?The part where he talks about not knowing what to do, and asking other people their thoughts about where they should go from here. Maybe try reading the article
The part where he talks about not knowing what to do, and asking other people their thoughts about where they should go from here. Maybe try reading the article
The part where he talks about not knowing what to do, and asking other people their thoughts about where they should go from here. Maybe try reading the article
Perhaps you should read the article. Where exactly does it say he didn't know what to do? You would hope that if you bring in new coaches you would ask them what they thought should change and get a fresh perspective. Isn't that the whole idea behind swapping out a big chunk of the coaching staff?
Yes imagine a coach asking other potential coaching staff what their analysis of the current situation is.
Much better would be just to scratch all other staff altogether and alleviate the potential for anyone else having any input whatsoever.
Is this really the level you need to go to in order to rag on someone?
He basically says he didn’t know what to do to improve, and they had to start from a blank sheet. Tell me how a blank sheet doesnt mean he was completely bereft of ideas where to go from here?
And obviously he’s going to get input from other coaches. Do you think the head coach does all the work 100%?
What a puerile reaction to a positive move.Seems like a sinking ship. Clueless as what to do.
Change had to come though, hopefully it works.
I am not a huge Scott lover by any stretch, but that is absolutely you seeing what you wanted from that article.... rather than telling the new eyes up front what we would do he got opinions from people coming in and fresh eyes... that is a fantastic exercise if you ask me... empowers the new coaches, creates a good dynamic in the coaching group and also can bring on fresh ideas and create really good discussion, there will still be elements of our recent game plan in there because you can't completely throw the baby out of the bathwater but the fact Scott opened up discussions this way if nothing else shows he isn't the dictator people want to paint him as, that he is willing to back in his staff and also to be open to new ideas... also very aware that his views may be tarnished by bias and long time relationships with players and that outsiders would see things differently.He basically says he didn’t know what to do to improve, and they had to start from a blank sheet. Tell me how a blank sheet doesnt mean he was completely bereft of ideas where to go from here?
And obviously he’s going to get input from other coaches. Do you think the head coach does all the work 100%?
Nobody knows what to do.The part where he talks about not knowing what to do, and asking other people their thoughts about where they should go from here. Maybe try reading the article
It seems pretty clear to me that Hocking wants change,I'm not to sure Scott wants the same changes and could be the crux of the delayed signing of his contract.Just my 2 cents worth.Isn't a key reason for getting new faces in the coaching group, that they bring new & fresh ideas too things - what would be the point of bringing in new coaches if they were just going to be told to think the same as the old coaches & that despite the off field changes after 2021, the club didn't want to actually change anything?
It seems pretty clear to me that Hocking wants change,I'm not to sure Scott wants the same changes and could be the crux of the delayed signing of his contract.Just my 2 cents worth.
this thread is in pt5 with part 6 on its way.... fair chance its a staple of this place now.Anything to denigrate the coach...just make sh*t up and go with it.
In fact he has always said it is a very collaborative coaching set-up, and that he'll have his ideas and plays, and players in mind, but he often gets to go with the majority rules. I find that really refreshing. Have never seen him as a dictator, and his media days were very illuminating.I am not a huge Scott lover by any stretch, but that is absolutely you seeing what you wanted from that article.... rather than telling the new eyes up front what we would do he got opinions from people coming in and fresh eyes... that is a fantastic exercise if you ask me... empowers the new coaches, creates a good dynamic in the coaching group and also can bring on fresh ideas and create really good discussion, there will still be elements of our recent game plan in there because you can't completely throw the baby out of the bathwater but the fact Scott opened up discussions this way if nothing else shows he isn't the dictator people want to paint him as, that he is willing to back in his staff and also to be open to new ideas... also very aware that his views may be tarnished by bias and long time relationships with players and that outsiders would see things differently.
Obviously the proof will be in the pudding as the season unfolds and at this stage it is all just talk, but it is IMO a really positive approach
Deckchairs and Titanic come to mind..Seems like a sinking ship. Clueless as what to do.
Change had to come though, hopefully it works.
As said lots over the last 5 or so years, that is our list.Deckchairs and Titanic come to mind..
Still, bring it on. Some good signs in the practice match. Players taking the game on, moving the ball more quickly.
Things that haven't changed but should..
Blicavs still suspect as a mano mano back. Big forwards will worry us
Dahlmouse is still running around in the hoops.
Tommy still arguing with umpires
Ratugolea still clueless, and kicking is atrocious for someone who purports to be a forward.
Stanley looked cooked..