2004 AFL Rising Star Predictions

[no1bankteller]

Originally posted by Kid Dynamite!
From memory Sal played nine games before he did his shoulder, so he's got two chances to get a nomination.

Not sure what you meant by this...however if you are referring to not being eligble for Rising Star if you play more then 11 games, I am pretty sure that that is at the start of the season and not in total for the year. Hence regardless when Salopak gets nominated he will be eligible for the Rising Star next year.

For comparison purposes Quentin Lynch from WCE has played 11 games over two seasons and is still eligble for Rising Star award.

Cheers

 

[Portia]

Originally posted by no1bankteller
I am pretty sure that that is at the start of the season and not in total for the year. Hence regardless when Salopak gets nominated he will be eligible for the Rising Star next year.

Correct.

For comparison purposes Quentin Lynch from WCE has played 11 games over two seasons and is still eligble for Rising Star award.

Incorrect. The cutoff is 10 games.

 

[no1bankteller]

Originally posted by Porthos
Correct.

Incorrect. The cutoff is 10 games.

I stand corrected...

 

[Sedat!]

Salopek for mine. I hope it's Cooney.

 

[ThePope]

Eligible players

List of eligible players, under 21 (ie born in 83 or later) and 10 or less AFL games.

Bock, Nathan	Adel
Jericho, Luke	Adel
Krueger, Josh	Adel
Reilly, Brent	Adel
Rutten, Ben	Adel
Schuback, Jacob	Adel
Skipworth, Hayden	Adel
Watts, Fergus	Adel
Parker, Aidan	Adel-R
Adcock, Jed	Bris
Brennan, Jared	Bris
Corrie, Anthony	Bris
Hadley, Richard	Bris
Logan, Tom	Bris
Macdonald, Joel	Bris
Merrett, Daniel	Bris
Moody, Matthew	Bris
Rischitelli, Michael	Bris
Selwood, Troy	Bris
Spaanderman, Llane	Bris
Beasy, Callan	Carl
Croad, Cameron	Carl
Norman, Karl	Carl
Simpson, Kade	Carl
Walker, Andrew	Carl
Cloke, Cameron	Coll
Davidson, Tom	Coll
Hall, Brent	Coll
King, David D.	Coll
Morrison, Bill	Coll
Mullins, Luke	Coll
Nixon, Bo	Coll
Richards, Guy	Coll
Rowe, Julian	Coll
Shackleton, Luke	Coll
Shaw, Brayden	Coll
Shaw, Heath	Coll
Swan, Dane	Coll
Walker, Tristen	Coll
Maxwell, Nick	Coll-R
Bradley, Kepler	Ess
Cartledge, Tristan	Ess
Dyson, Ricky	Ess
Hunt, Sam	Ess
Johns, Courtney	Ess
Laycock, Jason	Ess
Nash, Jay	Ess
Stanton, Brent	Ess
Walsh, Darren	Ess
Watson, Jobe	Ess
Winderlich, Jason	Ess
Browne, Andrew	Freo
Campbell, Adam	Freo
Crowley, Ryan	Freo
Doswell, Brett	Freo
Dunn, Ryley	Freo
Edgcumbe, Greg	Freo
Gilmore, Daniel	Freo
Mundy, David	Freo
Murphy, Ryan	Freo
Peake, Brett	Freo
Dodd, Steven	Freo-R
Blake, Mark	Gee
Callan, Tim	Gee
Lonergan, Tom	Gee
Mackie, Andrew	Gee
Moloney, Brent	Gee
Playfair, Henry	Gee
Spencer, Matthew	Gee
Tenace, Kane	Gee
Byrnes, Shannon	Gee-R
Boyle, Tim	Haw
Brennan, Luke	Haw
Dawson, Zac	Haw
Kane, Ben	Haw
Ladson, Rick	Haw
Miller, Harry	Haw
Sewell, Brad	Haw
Firrito, Michael	Kang
Grima, Blake	Kang
Hale, David	Kang
Jones, Chad	Kang
McIntosh, Hamish	Kang
Perry, Joel	Kang
Sansbury, Edward	Kang
Shore, Kris	Kang
Trotter, David	Kang
Urch, Callum	Kang
Watson, Ashley	Kang
Bell, Daniel	Melb
Hunter, Cameron	Melb
Jamar, Mark	Melb
Johnson, Chris	Melb
McLean, Brock	Melb
Rivers, Jared	Melb
Smith, Nick	Melb
Sylvia, Colin	Melb
Carson, Dale	Melb-R
Fisher, Adam	Melb-R
Champion, Wade	Port
Chaplin, Troy	Port
Ebert, Brett	Port
Gilham, Steven	Port
Peel, Luke	Port
Pettigrew, Michael	Port
Salopek, Steven	Port
Symes, Brad	Port
White, Damon	Port
Patfull, Joel	Port-R
Archibald, Kyle	Rich
Gilmour, Alex	Rich
Hartigan, Brent	Rich
Jackson, Daniel	Rich
McGrath, Martin	Rich
Raines, Andrew	Rich
Roach, Tom	Rich
Schulz, Jay	Rich
Moore, Kelvin	Rich-R
Brooks, Barry	St K
Clarke, Raphael	St K
Ferguson, Matthew	St K
Fisher, Leigh	St K
Gram, Jason	St K
Houlihan, Josh	St K
Davis, Matthew	Syd
Dempster, Sean	Syd
Ericksen, Andrew	Syd
Malceski, Nick	Syd
McVeigh, Jarrad	Syd
Meiklejohn, James	Syd
Powell, Mark	Syd
Schmidt, Tim	Syd
Thewlis, Josh	Syd
Willoughby, Josh	Syd
Bevan, Paul	Syd-R
Cooney, Adam	WB
Ray, Farren	WB
Thompson, Iszac	WB
Butler, Sam	WCE
Hansen, Ashley	WCE
Johnson, Paul	WCE
McConnell, Daniel	WCE
Nicoski, Mark	WCE
Seaby, Mark	WCE
Selwood, Adam	WCE
Staker, Brent	WCE
Waters, Beau	WCE
Edwards, Aaron	WCE-R
Cross, Daniel	WeB
Faulkner, Cameron	WeB
Minson, Will	WeB
Murphy, Brad	WeB
Veale, Lochlan	WeB
Walsh, Tim	WeB
Wight, Cameron	WeB

My money is on Cooney, with Brennan or Salopek close behind. Courtney Johns as the smoky.

 

[anonymous Joe]

Re: Eligible players

Originally posted by ThePope
List of eligible players, under 21 (ie born in 83 or later) and 10 or less AFL games.

Bock, Nathan	Adel
Jericho, Luke	Adel
Krueger, Josh	Adel
Reilly, Brent	Adel
Rutten, Ben	Adel
Schuback, Jacob	Adel
Skipworth, Hayden	Adel
Watts, Fergus	Adel
Parker, Aidan	Adel-R
Adcock, Jed	Bris
Brennan, Jared	Bris
Corrie, Anthony	Bris
Hadley, Richard	Bris
Logan, Tom	Bris
Macdonald, Joel	Bris
Merrett, Daniel	Bris
Moody, Matthew	Bris
Rischitelli, Michael	Bris
Selwood, Troy	Bris
Spaanderman, Llane	Bris
Beasy, Callan	Carl
Croad, Cameron	Carl
Norman, Karl	Carl
Simpson, Kade	Carl
Walker, Andrew	Carl
Cloke, Cameron	Coll
Davidson, Tom	Coll
Hall, Brent	Coll
King, David D.	Coll
Morrison, Bill	Coll
Mullins, Luke	Coll
Nixon, Bo	Coll
Richards, Guy	Coll
Rowe, Julian	Coll
Shackleton, Luke	Coll
Shaw, Brayden	Coll
Shaw, Heath	Coll
Swan, Dane	Coll
Walker, Tristen	Coll
Maxwell, Nick	Coll-R
Bradley, Kepler	Ess
Cartledge, Tristan	Ess
Dyson, Ricky	Ess
Hunt, Sam	Ess
Johns, Courtney	Ess
Laycock, Jason	Ess
Nash, Jay	Ess
Stanton, Brent	Ess
Walsh, Darren	Ess
Watson, Jobe	Ess
Winderlich, Jason	Ess
Browne, Andrew	Freo
Campbell, Adam	Freo
Crowley, Ryan	Freo
Doswell, Brett	Freo
Dunn, Ryley	Freo
Edgcumbe, Greg	Freo
Gilmore, Daniel	Freo
Mundy, David	Freo
Murphy, Ryan	Freo
Peake, Brett	Freo
Dodd, Steven	Freo-R
Blake, Mark	Gee
Callan, Tim	Gee
Lonergan, Tom	Gee
Mackie, Andrew	Gee
Moloney, Brent	Gee
Playfair, Henry	Gee
Spencer, Matthew	Gee
Tenace, Kane	Gee
Byrnes, Shannon	Gee-R
Boyle, Tim	Haw
Brennan, Luke	Haw
Dawson, Zac	Haw
Kane, Ben	Haw
Ladson, Rick	Haw
Miller, Harry	Haw
Sewell, Brad	Haw
Firrito, Michael	Kang
Grima, Blake	Kang
Hale, David	Kang
Jones, Chad	Kang
McIntosh, Hamish	Kang
Perry, Joel	Kang
Sansbury, Edward	Kang
Shore, Kris	Kang
Trotter, David	Kang
Urch, Callum	Kang
Watson, Ashley	Kang
Bell, Daniel	Melb
Hunter, Cameron	Melb
Jamar, Mark	Melb
Johnson, Chris	Melb
McLean, Brock	Melb
Rivers, Jared	Melb
Smith, Nick	Melb
Sylvia, Colin	Melb
Carson, Dale	Melb-R
Fisher, Adam	Melb-R
Champion, Wade	Port
Chaplin, Troy	Port
Ebert, Brett	Port
Gilham, Steven	Port
Peel, Luke	Port
Pettigrew, Michael	Port
Salopek, Steven	Port
Symes, Brad	Port
White, Damon	Port
Patfull, Joel	Port-R
Archibald, Kyle	Rich
Gilmour, Alex	Rich
Hartigan, Brent	Rich
Jackson, Daniel	Rich
McGrath, Martin	Rich
Raines, Andrew	Rich
Roach, Tom	Rich
Schulz, Jay	Rich
Moore, Kelvin	Rich-R
Brooks, Barry	St K
Clarke, Raphael	St K
Ferguson, Matthew	St K
Fisher, Leigh	St K
Gram, Jason	St K
Houlihan, Josh	St K
Davis, Matthew	Syd
Dempster, Sean	Syd
Ericksen, Andrew	Syd
Malceski, Nick	Syd
McVeigh, Jarrad	Syd
Meiklejohn, James	Syd
Powell, Mark	Syd
Schmidt, Tim	Syd
Thewlis, Josh	Syd
Willoughby, Josh	Syd
Bevan, Paul	Syd-R
Cooney, Adam	WB
Ray, Farren	WB
Thompson, Iszac	WB
Butler, Sam	WCE
Hansen, Ashley	WCE
Johnson, Paul	WCE
McConnell, Daniel	WCE
Nicoski, Mark	WCE
Seaby, Mark	WCE
Selwood, Adam	WCE
Staker, Brent	WCE
Waters, Beau	WCE
Edwards, Aaron	WCE-R
Cross, Daniel	WeB
Faulkner, Cameron	WeB
Minson, Will	WeB
Murphy, Brad	WeB
Veale, Lochlan	WeB
Walsh, Tim	WeB
Wight, Cameron	WeB

My money is on Cooney, with Brennan or Salopek close behind. Courtney Johns as the smoky.

**** a non Essendon supporting mentions Courtney Johns.


He's been talked up unfairly he's still only 19. And wil take time, he has alot of ability though.

Doubt he's capable of wining it next year, Although if he's half as good as they hype, then he'll be a good smokey.

 

[Z_K]

Re: Re: Eligible players

Originally posted by anonymous Joe
**** a non Essendon supporting mentions Courtney Johns.


He's been talked up unfairly he's still only 19. .

Didn't get drafted, rookie listed, ok year in the VFL.

Superstar.

 

[sabre_ac]

Originally posted by Ausgard
It would be interesting to see in what year of their AFL career and how old the player was when they won the Rising star

I think Kosi and Buckley won it straight up (1st year player 17 years old) while Mitchell was a bit older

Can anyone put together a list of players who have won with their age and how many years they had been playing when they won it ?

Haselby won it in his first season, though I think he was 18 when he won it.

 

[Ausgard]

Re: Re: Re: Eligible players

Originally posted by NorthBhoy
Didn't get drafted, rookie listed, ok year in the VFL.

Superstar.

rofl

its funny 'cause its true

 

[electricsix]

winderlich will win it

 

[smilingassassin]

stakers a dead cert

Staker's a real good kid for the eagles and is a dead cert to get a nomination. A good pre-season will do wonders for him. He reminds me of Mitchell White before we off-loaded him to those suckers at Kardinya Park. Agree that Q. Lynch could also score if the real smiling assassin gives him a go next year. The big bloke could be anything..

 

[Jabso]

These players should get nominations for Collingwood:
David King
Dane Swan
Tom Davidson

Other chances are:
Walker
Morrison (if he gets a game which he might early on)
Nixon
Shackleton/B.Shaw

My smokey is:
David King
Otherwise: Tenace, Cooney, or Salapek.

 

[no1bankteller]

Re: stakers a dead cert

Originally posted by smilingassassin
Staker's a real good kid for the eagles and is a dead cert to get a nomination. A good pre-season will do wonders for him. He reminds me of Mitchell White before we off-loaded him to those suckers at Kardinya Park. Agree that Q. Lynch could also score if the real smiling assassin gives him a go next year. The big bloke could be anything..

Except I found out that Lycnh he has played one game too many.

 

[theferrett]

Does any know how many No#1 have actually one it?

for my 2 bobs worth young Browne from the Dockers will come through the ranks next season. Played a couple of good games pre season and early in the season, sent back to Claremont to polish up a little. ( Probably hamstrung a little with bluey McKennas coaching) but the kid will come through next season. Dont be surprised to see him at the bottom of the packs and he can kick them from outside 50mts

 

[superstar]

Laurence Angwin to take the prize.

 

[BigCat1]

Originally posted by marcuz
FWIW i think Tenace will win it.

I can't even remember the last time we had a nomination let alone somebody capable of winning it!

Anyway I hope your right.

 

[pazza]

Jason Winderlich (even if I can't squeeze him into my best 22 for Essendon)

 

[macca23]

Originally posted by superstar
Laurence Angwin to take the prize.

And if no-one's looking he will!!

 

[Wrath]

Callum Urch from the Kangaroos.

Wrath

 

[HIG]

The usual suspects - Cooney, Salopek, a host of names from St. Kilda etc... would probably be in the running to win it...

The only Hawk with any chance to win the thing would be Rick Ladson, but he is probably another year away from cutting up the opposition from a wing.

 

[paykster]

Originally posted by dees_best
Yeah I forgot about Brennan. He will be right up there if he can break into the Lions team for good.

although he has played less then 10 games he has won a nomination and therefore can't win another 1.


sorry to break this news to u all

 

[ThePope]

Originally posted by paykster
although he has played less then 10 games he has won a nomination and therefore can't win another 1.
sorry to break this news to u all

When did they change the rules? Have they asked Duncan Kellaway (Rd15 93 & Rd24 94) , Craig Callaghan (Rd16 95 & Rd22 96), Michael Braun (Rd14 97 & Rd 1 98)and Luke Power (Rd 2 98 & Rd 17 99) to hand back their second nominations yet?

 

[bLuEMoOsE]

Courtney Johns was drafted due to a Horrific injury which theoreticlly should have ended his career, we shall see what happens next year to all you people who said he was gone....

 

[no1bankteller]

St Kilda supporters was Rainwaldt nominated twice, ie in 2001 and 2002?

 

[Kildonan]

Originally posted by no1bankteller
St Kilda supporters was Riewoldt nominated twice, ie in 2001 and 2002?

Sorry - can't tell you for sure but I dont recollect him getting a nomination in 2001, mind you he didn't play many games.

I want to put Lochlan Veale's name up for possible rising star.

Surely he must be a chance if he is worth ND pick #6 and Mark Alvey put together. Has had a year of development....

Seriously, I think the best chance from St Kilda next year would be Jason Gram. He has a developmental edge on some of the younger players.