2011 crowds

[gopies1981]

Pretty surprising seeing the Melb-GC crowd figure. That's way more than they get against every other interstate team yet I wouldn't think GC have ****all travelling fans/fans based in Melbourne as yet.

Well Melbourne did get

34,000 against Sydney
24,000 Vs Brisbane
19,000 Vs Adelaide

I think the reason why the crowd was good that it was a nice day also last hoe game for Melbourne fans to see the GoldCoast!

Would be intersting to see if Melbourne Start winning how many dees fans will come out each week to see them! im guessing 25-30,000!

 

[camsmith]

Melbourne's last game at home for the year, added bonus of allowing fans on the ground for a kick after the siren.. Sunny Sunday arvo.. that crowd seems about right.

Plus knowing they were a massive chance at seeing a win..

 

[Righteo]

Sydney and Brisbane have significant populations of Melbourne based fans, and 19k isn't that great against Adelaide considering how many travelling fans they have.

Probably so high because they saw it as a guaranteed win.

 

[The_Wookie]

275k needed this week to beat last years mark (6.49 million) (34,375 ave)
280k needed to kit the 6.5 million mark (35k ave)
291k need to beat the record 2008 mark. (36.4k ave)

league crowds this year currently average 34,750.

This round features two blockbusters at the MCG - Collingwood v Geelong and Carlton v St Kilda that'll do at least 140k between them on their own in decent weather (and sunny days forecast both friday and saturday). West Coast at home to Adelaide will beat the average. The other 5 games should get at LEAST 100k between them. Should go close to - if not well over - a 300k attendance round.

 

[calyam]

275k needed this week to beat last years mark (6.49 million) (34,375 ave)
280k needed to kit the 6.5 million mark (35k ave)
291k need to beat the record 2008 mark. (36.4k ave)

league crowds this year currently average 34,750.

This round features two blockbusters at the MCG - Collingwood v Geelong and Carlton v St Kilda that'll do at least 140k between them on their own in decent weather (and sunny days forecast both friday and saturday). West Coast at home to Adelaide will beat the average. The other 5 games should get at LEAST 100k between them. Should go close to - if not well over - a 300k attendance round.

I hadn't realised how much crowds had slowed over the past 5 weeks. At one stage I thought we'd be the crowd record by between 100 and 200k.

 

[Ron The Bear]

league crowds this year currently average 34,750.

Even excluding Gold Coast matches, the average is at its lowest since 2006. Something stinks. Perhaps it's the AFL's contrived moral puritanism that's turning people away.

 

[calyam]

Even excluding Gold Coast matches, the average is at its lowest since 2006. Something stinks. Perhaps it's the AFL's contrived moral puritanism that's turning people away.

Most of it can be explained by sharp falls in crowds in Brisbane and Sydney.

For Brisbane I would mainly attribute the decline to the floods at the beginning of the year. Going to the footy is far from a priority for these people. A less significant explanation might be the introduction of Gold Coast.

For Sydney, unusually terrible weather has contributed to lower than normal crowds.

Both of these factors should be rectified next season.

 

[Rob]

For Brisbane I would mainly attribute the decline to the floods at the beginning of the year.

Yeah? I'd attribute it to their team being dog shit all year.

Across the league, it doesn't help that this year is probably the most lopsided in living memory. When you consistently get games where one team is at 10/1 or longer to win, it's going to have an impact on crowds.

 

[cos789]

Most of it can be explained by sharp falls in crowds in Brisbane and Sydney.

For Brisbane I would mainly attribute the decline to the floods at the beginning of the year. Going to the footy is far from a priority for these people. A less significant explanation might be the introduction of Gold Coast.

For Sydney, unusually terrible weather has contributed to lower than normal crowds.

Both of these factors should be rectified next season.

GC has a 25k capacity 13k less than last years average crowd.
BL had the floods but importantly the loss of JB .
SS had the worst weather and a mid season slump .
ADE and PA especially poor performance .
The failure of most rebuilt teams to improve .
The early season and late season predictability .
General negativity of the media .

Next year should be different .
I expect a lot more compression in the overall competitiveness of teams .
There is the introduction of the GWS however .

wrt the Melb Vs GC game one extra point is that the crowd new they were going to see attacking brand of football .From the onset the GC have not tried to mittigate their losses but rather tried to play "good" football .

 

[calyam]

Yeah? I'd attribute it to their team being dog shit all year.

Across the league, it doesn't help that this year is probably the most lopsided in living memory. When you consistently get games where one team is at 10/1 or longer to win, it's going to have an impact on crowds.

They were also 'dog shit' for almost all of last year too. It had a limited effect on crowds. It is unlikely to explain all or even most of the variation.

However, a once in a lifetime natural disaster probably can. Who cares about attending a game of football when your house, your town, or your job has been destroyed? It would be pretty low on anybodies priority list.

 

[___ccroo___]

Even excluding Gold Coast matches, the average is at its lowest since 2006. Something stinks. Perhaps it's the AFL's contrived moral puritanism that's turning people away.

With the Giants joining next season will continue to slide.

 

[Rob]

They were also 'dog shit' for almost all of last year too. It had a limited effect on crowds. It is unlikely to explain all or even most of the variation.

No they weren't. They were equal top after 4 rounds and talked up as flag favourites (or close to it). Their season was practically over at the same stage in 2011. Once they lost to the Gold Coast they may as well have shut up shop.

However, a once in a lifetime natural disaster probably can. Who cares about attending a game of football when your house, your town, or your job has been destroyed? It would be pretty low on anybodies priority list.

No doubt it's had an impact. But the Broncos have had nowhere near the crowd drop, and the Reds have had a massive crowd increase. Both have done significantly better on field than the Lions.

 

[im_a_lazy_sod]

Better performance = better appearance numbers

Our 2011 crowd figures are very similar to the Eagles 2010 crowd figures
Our 2010 crowd figures are very similar to the Eagles 2011 crowd figures

Decent article in WAtoday saying that when we had a good year our crowd figures went up, whereas this year they went down due to poor performance and injures - a similar trend to the eagles in 2010

And in 2011 the eagles figures went up big-time on 2010 and they experienced similar numbers to our crowd figures last year

Dockers drop-off
2010: Total home game attendance (excluding finals) – 402,288; Average crowd – 36,571.
2011: Total home game attendance – 378,327; Average crowd – 34,393.

Eagles lift-off
2010: Total home game attendance – 384,219; Average crowd – 34,929.
2011: Total home game attendance (to date) – 375,736; Average crowd – 37,573.

Read more: http://www.watoday.com.au/afl/afl-n...the-dockers-20110829-1ji85.html#ixzz1Wa7eNZbS

 

[calyam]

No they weren't. They were equal top after 4 rounds and talked up as flag favourites (or close to it). Their season was practically over at the same stage in 2011. Once they lost to the Gold Coast they may as well have shut up shop.

And following round 4 they were almost completely uncompetitive. Do you think their fans didn't realise this at all during the season? Why weren't the Lions averaging 20k per home game during the second half of the season. Why did crowds remain elevated? The Lions averaged 26.4K to their last 4 homes games (in period in which it was clear that their season was over).

No doubt it's had an impact. But the Broncos have had nowhere near the crowd drop, and the Reds have had a massive crowd increase. Both have done significantly better on field than the Lions.

Crowds don't fall 30 per cent in a season because of a drop in form. There are additional reasons at hand. The Broncos crowds are down almost 10 per cent despite having a much better season on field. Financial hardship is having a significant impact on the teams in Queensland and therefore you'd expect a noticeable rebound next season.

 

[Rob]

And following round 4 they were almost completely uncompetitive. Do you think their fans didn't realise this at all during the season? Why weren't the Lions averaging 20k per home game during the second half of the season. Why did crowds remain elevated? The Lions averaged 26.4K to their last 4 homes games (in period in which it was clear that their season was over).

Probably because on the back of their pre-season hype and early season form, they sold a shitload more memberships, which is going to be reflected in higher crowd figures throughout the season. People are obviously more likely to attend games if they can get in for no additional charge.

Crowds don't fall 30 per cent in a season because of a drop in form. There are additional reasons at hand. The Broncos crowds are down almost 10 per cent despite having a much better season on field. Financial hardship is having a significant impact on the teams in Queensland and therefore you'd expect a noticeable rebound next season.

I'm not disputing that it's not a factor, but if the Lions were winning, they'd probably have an increase in a crowds.

 

[The_Wookie]

biggest impact for brisbane is the Suns. Its what i termed the "Victory" effect, where Melbourne Hearts introduction into the A-league did split off some of its support and Victorys average crowds dropped significantly. This was really the pointer to what happened in queensland and what will happen to a lesser extent in Sydney next year (lesser extent because the GWS draws a lot of members from canberra).

Brisbanes crowds down by about 8,000 - Suns crowds average 19,000 = more people going to the game in queensland this year over all. Lions members down by 9,000, Suns members 14,000 = more members in queensland teams this year.

 

[HARKER]

The AFL will still be happy with over 7 mil. for the year.
We won't beat last years figures though, which is somewhat disappointing considering we have had another team involved.

 

[The_Wookie]

85,705 at MCG for tonights match. good start to the round.

 

[The_Wookie]

275k needed this week to beat last years mark (6.49 million) (34,375 ave)
280k needed to kit the 6.5 million mark (35k ave)
291k need to beat the record 2008 mark. (36.4k ave)

league crowds this year currently average 34,750.

This round features two blockbusters at the MCG - Collingwood v Geelong and Carlton v St Kilda that'll do at least 140k between them on their own in decent weather (and sunny days forecast both friday and saturday). West Coast at home to Adelaide will beat the average. The other 5 games should get at LEAST 100k between them. Should go close to - if not well over - a 300k attendance round.

242,436 so far this round. 2 matches to come (port v meb - Adelaide oval, and Richmond v North at Etihad). 49k more needed to break the record.

 

[ioppolo]

Well let's say Port draws 21,000 @ AO, which leaves the Tiges and Roos to attract 28k, so it should happen.

 

[magic_johnson!]

Well let's say Port draws 21,000 @ AO, which leaves the Tiges and Roos to attract 28k, so it should happen.

Port should be atleast 30k

 

[Ron The Bear]

Port should be atleast 30k

How many does Adelaide Oval hold?

 

[magic_johnson!]

How many does Adelaide Oval hold?

First day of the Ashes test got 38k if i remember correctly

 

[camsmith]

I reckon Richmond being a home game will get around 34,567.

 

[finders]

How many does Adelaide Oval hold?

It will be interesting to see if AO pulls in extra fans or theatregoers over what would have turned up at AMMI for what is really a nothing game.