2011 Ladder Predictions - Part 2

[Super Gusto]

Like I said in my last two posts, I should have stuck to my guns and took a punt on learned helplessness affecting Geelong, St Kilda and the Western Bulldogs this year.

This is the ladder I should've gone with, that I will stick with for the rest of the year. Only it won't count if it turns out right because we're into the second round now.

1. Collingwood
2. Hawthorn
3. Adelaide
4. Sydney
5. Essendon
6. Carlton
7. Fremantle
8. Melbourne
9. Western Bulldogs
10. Geelong
11. North Melbourne
12. St Kilda
13. Port Adelaide
14. Richmond
15. West Coast
16. Brisbane Lions
17. Gold Coast

Would be a major upset if 3 Prem finalists from last year missed the finals completely this year. Don;t know if that has ever happened before.

However this is a year when strange things could happen?

 

[weagles_fan]

Like I said in my last two posts, I should have stuck to my guns and took a punt on learned helplessness affecting Geelong, St Kilda and the Western Bulldogs this year.

This is the ladder I should've gone with, that I will stick with for the rest of the year. Only it won't count if it turns out right because we're into the second round now.

1. Collingwood
2. Hawthorn
3. Adelaide
4. Sydney
5. Essendon
6. Carlton
7. Fremantle
8. Melbourne
9. Western Bulldogs
10. Geelong
11. North Melbourne
12. St Kilda
13. Port Adelaide
14. Richmond
15. West Coast
16. Brisbane Lions
17. Gold Coast

Orly?

 

[Coolangatta]

Orly?

Still a long way to go, my friend. But yeah, maybe West Coast will finish above Port, Richmond, and maybe even North, come seasons end. Who knows?

Would be a major upset if 3 Prem finalists from last year missed the finals completely this year. Don;t know if that has ever happened before.

However this is a year when strange things could happen?

Yeah, not sure either. Probably not. Bit early to say the Bullies will mentally **** up and miss the 8. Geelong... could see them making the 8 on the back of their Geelong home games and a good run home. Can definitely see the Saints missing the finals, but again, too early to say.

I just think that the decrement in performance will increase if these teams struggle throughout the year. The more and more likely it looks like they'll miss the 4 (hence a shot at the flag most players would feel), the more likely they are to drop off more in performance, I reckon.

 

[TP86]

Updated my "power rankings" after round 2- no big jumpers this week but Geelong have been promoted to second (behind Collingwood) while Tigers are the lower-half climber and St Kilda have slipped a little.

http://www.sportsbuzz.com.au/?p=1286

 

[weagles_fan]

WC are really being underrated (yes I know they finished 16th in 2010). Solid preseason only losing to the Pies by a couple of goals and 2-0. What if they beat Sydney and Hawthorn the next 2 weeks where will they be rated then? 2nd?

 

[Kaboodleer]

If we beat Sydney time to jump us up the ladder a bit, fair to keep us near the bottom for now I think.

 

[Danair]

WC are really being underrated (yes I know they finished 16th in 2010). Solid preseason only losing to the Pies by a couple of goals and 2-0. What if they beat Sydney and Hawthorn the next 2 weeks where will they be rated then? 2nd?

Settle down, you've only beat North and Port.

 

[WCE_phil]

Well as it stands im not too positive on west coasts season now with waters being injured for 3 months. We've now had what i consider to be 2 of our 3 most important players go down with major injuries in 2 weeks. While waters may not be the most highly skilled his reading of play, marking and hardness coming out of the back half are irreplaceable for us.

 

[Mitchemx]

WC are really being underrated (yes I know they finished 16th in 2010). Solid preseason only losing to the Pies by a couple of goals and 2-0. What if they beat Sydney and Hawthorn the next 2 weeks where will they be rated then? 2nd?

You've beaten two bottom 4 contenders thus far.

 

[Vdubs]

Would be a major upset if 3 Prem finalists from last year missed the finals completely this year. Don;t know if that has ever happened before.

However this is a year when strange things could happen?

2007. No WCE, no Sydney, no Freo. All of Geelong, Port and NM did not play significant finals if any in 06. WCE and Swans were out before prelims, not exactly what you said, but a complete turnaround in prelims anyway.

 

[AM]

1. Collingwood - they're so far out in front at the moment, it's not funny. But if they get a few injuries, it could make things interesting.
2. St. Kilda - okay, they lost the first game. But this is likely their last season to really push for a flag before they get completely broken physically & mentally. They'll find a way to climb towards the top.
3. Geelong - still have a good core of players, if they can get their forward line functioning then they'll be up there once again.
4. Adelaide - The big improvers I think. Watching them slowly take Hawthorn down was a joy, finally have a bit of pace around the ground. Porp's injury is a concern though.
5. Freo - pains me to say it, but I think they're onto big things. Injuries at the start will keep them mid-pack, but once they're fit and firing they'll be hard to beat.
6. Hawthorn - seem to say this every year, but the Hawks have too much talent not to win their fair share of games. Whether they can put it all together mentally as much as anything is the big question.
7. Sydney - Will have their ups and downs with some big retirements and a coaching change, but we all know they find ways to win when needed.
8. Bulldogs - one of the big sliders, I just don't think they've got it. Lots of experts think they'll push for the top 2, but they still have too many players that are front runners.
9. North Melb - borderline finals team, maybe next year for them. A lot of youngsters to be excited about though.
10. Essendon - I think the Hird fairytale start will hit a wall sooner or later, but they'll certainly show some signs of getting up to the top half again.
11. Carlton - the other big slider for me. A top midfield, average defense, and an inconsistent forwardline. I think a lot of teams will figure them out this year.
12. West Coast - probably optimistic, and probably a biased view. Surely they'll improve on last year's shambles, especially with a heap of players returning from injury, although LeCras' boots will be tough to fill.
13. Melbourne - more game time for the youngsters, but ultimately will be about the same as last year in terms of wins. Still a fair way off genuine finals hopes, although the heart they showed against Sydney augurs well for the future.
14. Brisbane - tempted to put them lower. The senior players seem to be on their last legs, skipper out for a long time, and Voss seems to be lacking in ideas at the moment.
15. Port - they could prove me completely wrong and finish in the top 8, such is their inconsistency. They'll either get on a run and completely dominate, or they'll just wilt under a bit of pressure and get their asses handed to them.
16. Richmond - wanted to put them higher. They're similar to Melbourne, another year down towards the bottom while getting games for their kids, and next year we'll start to see a push.
17. GC - let's be realistic, they're a bunch of teenagers with a few big bodies around to protect them and keep their heads up. Will surprise a few teams - maybe win half a dozen games and finish around 12th... but can't really expect too much this year.

I think Collingwood are a lock for top spot after round 24 (barring injuries).
Teams from 2nd - 6th could probably chop and change by the end, same for 12th - 16th.
I wouldn't be surprised if the Bulldogs slipped further as well.

Nah! a Bullies v Maggies GF. Lock it in.

 

[CrowMan19]

1. Collingwood - Superstar team rather than a team of superstars
2. Cats - Still a great side
3. Crows - Underated by most
4. Hawks - Have incredible talent but they still have a lot to prove
5. Saints - Don't seem quite them selves so far but i think they should bounce back
6. Sydney - Like the crows i think theyre well underated
7. Blues - Not sure on this team. They have some talent but not a big fan of their coach
8. Dogs - Thrash the bottom sides but lose to the good ones

9. Freo - Could probably be higher but not as good away from home
10. Bombers - Will have some incredible games but some terrible ones as well
11. North Mel - They should improve but still won't be good enough
12. Melbourne - An improved side but its hard to see them in the top 8
13. Tigers - They can have some pretty good quarters but are to inconsistent in a match
14. Port - Played like shit
15. Eagles - Even thought they beat port, port played terrible
16. Lions - Will have another poor year
17. Gold coast - After the last game i cant see them winning a match all year

I'll probably be way off cos there are always heaps of surprises in a year that are too hard to predict

 

[Doggies_2008]

1. Collingwood
2. Bulldogs
3. Hawthorn
4. Geelong
5. St.kilda
6. Carlton
7. Essendon
8. Fremantle
9. Adelaide
10. Sydney
11. Melbourne
12. Richmond
13. West Coast
14. North Melbourne
15. Lions
16. Port Adelaide
17. Gold Coast

 

[CursoryMercenary]

1. Collingwood
2. Geelong
3. Adelaide
4. Hawthorn
5. Bulldogs
6. Sydney
7. St.Kilda
8. Essendon
9. Fremantle
10. Carlton
11. West Coast
12. Port Adelaide
13. Richmond
14. North Melbourne
15. Melbourne
16. Brisbane
17. Gold Coast

 

[Wernumberone]

lol, can we keep putting our predictions in up until round 24?

 

[CursoryMercenary]

You've beaten two bottom 4 contenders thus far.

You've only beaten one.

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

lol, can we keep putting our predictions in up until round 24?

It really should've been locked before Rnd 1.

 

[weagles_fan]

1. Collingwood
2. Geelong
3. Adelaide
4. West Coast
5. Hawthorn
6. Carlton
7. Essendon
8. Bulldogs
9. Fremantle
10. St Kild
11. Sydney
12. Richmond
13. Port Adelaide
14. North Melbourne
15. Melbourne
16. Gold Coast
17. Brisbane

 

[kenhunter]

Having just scanned this thread I'm rather amazed by the number of "pundits" who have us finishing 10th of below, reminds me of the same thing last year where the new's of our death was greatly exaggerated due to the departure of Fev.

The same thing is happening again this year prior to the start of the season but without any reasonable basis such as the departure of a gun player or an aging list without any upside. Me thinks this is just wishful thinking, a reflection of the hatred that seems to inflict many opposition supporters. I doubt that many actually put their hard earned on us falling down the ladder this year, but if there any of you out there that would like to PM me please...

 

[Kaboodleer]

Having just scanned this thread I'm rather amazed by the number of "pundits" who have us finishing 10th of below, reminds me of the same thing last year where the new's of our death was greatly exaggerated due to the departure of Fev.

The same thing is happening again this year prior to the start of the season but without any reasonable basis such as the departure of a gun player or an aging list without any upside. Me thinks this is just wishful thinking, a reflection of the hatred that seems to inflict many opposition supporters. I doubt that many actually put their hard earned on us falling down the ladder this year, but if there any of you out there that would like to PM me please...

I agree having read through a fair bit of this thread Carlton strikes me as the team being the most under rated.

 

[TP86]

Power rankings are out for week 3 - with Essendon the big climber while St Kilda and Adelaide are the sliders:

http://www.sportsbuzz.com.au/?p=1363

 

[Purple Jesus]

After rounds three, and getting a feel for how teams are travelling at the moment, went through the ladder predictor - damn there are some favuorable draws! Here's what I came up with.

Collingwood
Fremantle
Geelong
Adelaide
Bulldogs
Hawthorn
Sydney
Essendon
Carlton
St Kilda
Melbourne
West Coast
Richmond
North
Lions
GC Suns
Port Adelaide

I think 'wood, freo and geelong are a lock for top 3, adelaide, bulldogs and hawks will push for 4th and hawks-saints will fight it out to make the 8 mostly based on percentage.

 

[deeplivid]

After rounds three, and getting a feel for how teams are travelling at the moment, went through the ladder predictor - damn there are some favuorable draws! Here's what I came up with.

Collingwood
Fremantle
Geelong
Adelaide
Bulldogs
Hawthorn
Sydney
Essendon
Carlton
St Kilda
Melbourne
West Coast
Richmond
North
Lions
GC Suns
Port Adelaide

This is as good a reason as any to have eight finalists rather than fewer.

 

[Changaneen]

lol @ predicting the ladder after 1 round

Thats the whole point of predicting the ladder numnut

Whats the use of it half way or near the end of the season, it would hardly be a prediction.

 

[syl]

After rounds three, and getting a feel for how teams are travelling at the moment, went through the ladder predictor - damn there are some favuorable draws! Here's what I came up with.

Collingwood
Fremantle
Geelong
Adelaide
Bulldogs
Hawthorn
Sydney
Essendon
Carlton
St Kilda
Melbourne
West Coast
Richmond
North
Lions
GC Suns
Port Adelaide

I think 'wood, freo and geelong are a lock for top 3, adelaide, bulldogs and hawks will push for 4th and hawks-saints will fight it out to make the 8 mostly based on percentage.

Wow you overrate freo, hastily scroll across to see the purple badge!
Essendon are this years freo, peaking a year early