2011 Ladder Predictions - Part 2

[Wernumberone]

Thats the whole point of predicting the ladder numnut

Whats the use of it half way or near the end of the season, it would hardly be a prediction.

The whole point is picking it BEFORE the season starts,which is what i said. numnut

Not after you have seen most clubs play and clubs already have points on the board.

If you can't understand that then you have more than a broken piston.

 

[Claypigeon]

The whole point is picking it BEFORE the season starts,which is what i said. numnut

Not after you have seen most clubs play and clubs already have points on the board.

If you can't understand that then you have more than a broken piston.

This is true but it isn't the end of the world if people want to see what a rethink, on form would compare to their pre-season prediction. ..

 

[The Speaker]

Looks like your Blues have ruined your prediction there, Claypiegon.

 

[Vdubs]

Collingwood
Footscray
Hawthorn
Saints
Carlton
Freo
Adelaide
Swans
Bombers
Eagles
Demons
Roos
Tigers
Port
Lions
Gold Coast

Sub : Geelong

 

[Claypigeon]

Looks like your Blues have ruined your prediction there, Claypiegon.

Yeah, your right. .. shattered that my Nostradonmus episode is over. .. I'll take 5 out of 6 though

 

[TP86]

Updated the power rankings this week and buying back into Fremantle. Was big on them in pre-season before all the injuries hit, then jumped right off going into round one. Now I'm liking them again...As we all know, a dangerous thing to do.

Pies/Cats run-away top two.

http://www.sportsbuzz.com.au/?p=1421

 

[aesthetic]

is it just the old people that discovered the internet calling the bulldogs footscray or...? cos its not the teams name anymore lol.

just saying.

 

[Hard Ball Get]

is it just the old people that discovered the internet calling the bulldogs footscray or...? cos its not the teams name anymore lol.

just saying.

Technically it is. We are still the Footscray Football Club. We are just trading as the Western Bulldogs. However I agree, it is a bit silly.

 

[Wernumberone]

The top 4 hasn't been stable at all as i have already pointed out. One team virtually every year misses making it again.

Nowhere did i say that Essendon will make the top 4 and they won't but they are a chance to fall into the eight but will most likely win around 10 games and miss.

It won't happen.
The gap between the top and bottom has widened of the last few years.
Which of the bottom 8 teams do you think are a chance for top 4?

10 games for Essendon? If they win more than 6 I'll be surprised.
Essendon will not fall into the eight, fall into last position maybe.

I go back to my original post.

You say this is if you are the all knowing God of who does what.

It's all very well for you and everyone else to have opinions but you say it as if it is fact yet history shows us that it happens over 90% of the time.

So you are saying that you know better than history?

If that gap between top and bottom has widened as you say, lets say top four to bottom four, then why do teams keep jumping in and and falling out?

I will answer it for you.

It's because of variables. The unknowns, the things out of the hands of the clubs and in the hands of the footy Gods, of which you are not one, albeit that will be a shock to you.

Essendon won 7 games last year.

Could we win less, certainly. Is it likely, nope.

I have no idea who will make the top 4 from the bottom 8 i only know that it is over 90% more likely that one team will.

I will bump this thread at the appropriate time.

I'd say this is the appropriate time.

Parallel Andy, you couldn't have been more wrong if you tried....

 

[Sloth]

It is going to be an awesome year.

I don't think Collingwood are that far ahead of the pack (if at all). Certainly not on talent, but they are very well coached. Can see a nice hangover setting in.

1. Geelong
2. St Kilda
3. Hawthorn
4. North
5. Collingwood
6. Fremantle
7. Bulldogs
8. Melbourne

Gotta love old threads!

 

[galindez]

13. west coast - maybe biased, but with kerr finally back will be vastly better than last year
14. port - new coach will have a lot of work to do
15. richmond - perhaps a bit harsh, just feel they lack experienced leaders
16. essendon - hird has a LOT of work to do. mids seriously lacking apart from watson
17. brisbane - in for a world of pain

West Coast fan calling himself biased for tipping the eagles to finish 13th

 

[Badesumofu]

There's a lot of good stuff in here. All those North/Melbourne fans pumping up their exciting young lists, heh. Also, it seems nearly everyone underrated Carlton, and most people underrated Geelong.

 

[Slattery_20]

Year after year after year, those who claim to "know" or spot "sure things" are shown up.

I enjoy predicting as much as anyone but at the end of the day I realise that 99.9% of them are not worth a pinch of the proverbial.

 

[10571z]

After a read no1 rated eagles a chance for the 8.. People overrated bulldogs, saints way to high. People tipped the fall of Geelong which didn't happen. Essendon have exceeded expectations of everyone. Port are far worse! Just amazing how unpreicatable afl is

 

[Belltower]

West Coast fan calling himself biased for tipping the eagles to finish 13th

He got the wording right (vastly)but the positioning wrong. In fairness to him I doubt anyone in their wildest dreams would have picked us in the top 5.

Has definitely made my year so far.

 

[Call Me Cake]

West Coast and Essendon have been the most improved sides this year in terms of ladder position.

Looking over the "predictions", you can tell almost everyone had the Eagles and Bombers in the bottom four, if not the bottom two respectively.

Of course, they were wrong. But it's a common occurance when you try to predict an unpredictable ladder such as ours. Then again, it's all for fun anyway.

One pattern that you notice is how the ladder predictions always bear a striking resemblance to the year before - Carlton 6-8, Essendon 14-16, St Kilda 1-2, ect ect... it happens every year.

Wow you overrate freo, hastily scroll across to see the purple badge!
Essendon are this years freo, peaking a year early

Nope.avi

Everyone with a footy brain knows Freo were crippled by the injury god. So much so that they carry the most injuries this year.

Almost everyone would have them in the top four if they were guaranteed a proper run with injuries next year.

Essendon, too, were crippled by injuries mid-year or so (losing 5 straight) - since then, we've gained a few players back and are showing better signs (5 wins of the last 7).

Can only get better in the coming years ahead.

Is that hard to swallow, Dees fan?

 

[Donstuie]

Looking back on this thread has certainly been...educational.

The number of people tipping us to miss the 8 is hilarious enough, but still pales in comparison to some of the other predictions made in here. Comedy gold

 

[Blues_Man]

Many people are going to be surprised with Port Adelaide this year.

Much better than many people rate them.

Oh really ?

 

[Blues_Man]

^^^^
Over rated by the press and the Carlton suporters, not by BigFooty posters.

I think Carlton are a middle of the road side, have been for the last 2 years and will be this year. Not enopugh talent in players 12-22.

The only diefference between this year and the last couple is that there are a few more sides who will overtake them thats all.

lol hilarious reading

 

[justlookingaround]

Collingwood - Coached well and all players seem to know there role. Eddie wouldn't allow a hangover

Fremantle - Unbeatable at home when all hands on deck and due to win on the road

St Kilda - Maybe one last hurrah for the saints. Getting older.

Hawthorn - With all those good players surely Clarkson get this team into gear. Look out for Jeff if he doesn't.

W.Bulldogs - Will be thereabouts but not a real challenger come September

Geelong - Still have too many good players to slip below this position

Melbourne - No bias here. The time has come

Carlton - Any team with Judd can make the 8 but that’s about it

Adelaide - Will win most games at home but away will cost them a spot in the 8.

Nth Melb - Aren’t good enough let to make it yet. Doesn't matter though no one will miss watching them play.

Sydney - Think the swans will go backwards. New Coach will take time to get into rhythm

Port Adel - Finished the season well and might surprise some people but not good enough to make the 8.

Brisbane - J.Brown will get the lions a few wins that will keep them off bottom spot.

Richmond -Will do better then Suns and that might be an achievement at Punt road

Essendon - Wanted to put them last but even i'm not that cruel.

Gold Coast - Wait a few years before they turn good, but not this year for Suns

He didn't even bother to put West Coast in

 

[damochandler]

i am giving up on making predictions of any kind. made many terrible predictions this year.

had the bombers as spoon winner, that's going well

had freo as a top 4 contender. if injuries didn't happen. maybe they would be up there

i might start predicting what time we might all die. 12/7/2052 is the day we will all die

 

[Rocky_Star_Pro]

1. Collingwood - Barring injuries, should go back to back

2. St. Kilda - Might have another year left in their gun players, ageing list

3. Fremantle - Another pre season for their younger players should see them develop further

4. Hawthorn - It's now or never for the Hawks

5. Carlton - Could be in trouble if Judd goes down, but should take part in September unless something drastic happens

6. Sydney - New coach, I can't wait to see the improvement in youngsters like Rohan or Jetta

7. Western Bulldogs - Will decline but won't slip out of the 8

8. Geelong - New coach and new era, expect Scott to give youngsters more game time in place of the veterans
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9. North - Another year before they make the 8, expect more improvement in their team.

10. Melbourne - Another pre season into Scully, Trengrove, Watts and their other young players. Won't make the 8 in 2011 but should in 2012 onwards.

11. Port - Don't know much about their list, but people on here are really underrating them.

12. Adelaide - As with Port, don't know much about their list, it won't be easy replacing Edwards, McLeod and Goodwin in one season.

13. Essendon - New coach, won't rise up the ladder drastically, but expect more of a defensive gameplan and more accountability.

14. Richmond - Exciting young players, but still a few more years away, list needs more experience

15. West Coast - Have really poor skills and might be time for a new coach, but their list has some very good talent.

16. Brisbane - Voss drove them into the ground during trade week 2009. Traded for draft picks this year, but lost key players in Rischitelli, Brennan and Sherman, and they still have a heavy reliance on superstars on their last legs (Power, Brown and Black). They still managed to uncover future players in Rockliff, Banfield and Redden.

17. Gold Coast - Young list, few experienced players. Will be a few years before they challenge, as most of their list is raw, but have the correct young players on which a future powerhouse can be built.

Not even close, haha.

Also for the bolded, worst call of this thread

 

[kaiserchief13]

1. Collingwood
2. Geelong
3. Adelaide
4. West Coast
5. Hawthorn
6. Carlton
7. Essendon
8. Bulldogs
9. Fremantle
10. St Kild
11. Sydney
12. Richmond
13. Port Adelaide
14. North Melbourne
15. Melbourne
16. Gold Coast
17. Brisbane

Wow nice predictions here

 

[Blues_Man]

Re: How will the 2011 Ladder finish?

If carlton finish above us i'll eat my hat.

Want some Sauce with that Ed ?

 

[Blue and Silver]

Pretty sure I did one of these a while back in the thread by I am going to post a new one anyhow. Recent injuries have affected how I see this year panning out:

1. Western Bulldogs 18/4
2. Geelong 16/6
3. Carlton 15/7
4. Collingwood 14/8
5. Freo 13/9
6. Sydney 13/9
7. Adelaide 13/9
8. North Melbourne 13/9
9. Hawthorn 12/10
10. St. Kilda 12/10
11. Richmond 10/12
12. Brisbane 8/14
13. Port Adelaide 8/14
14. Melbourne 7/15
15. Essendon 6/16
16. Gold Coast 4/18
17. West Coast 4/18

Did the prediction game by game. Tried to throw in some upsets, form drops and hot streaks. Middlband pretty damn even, Carlton bias did occur

Time to take a look at how wrong I was at the start of the year.

The Good:

3 of the top 4 will eiher finish there or just miss.

Freo, Sydney, North all correctly labelled middle of the road

The Bad:

The Dogs at 1.

Hawks/Saints outside 8.

Collingwood not top 2

Essendon bottom 4

Port not bottom 4