2012 SC Rucks

[MagpiePhil]

Giles on my bench outscoring both Kreuzer and Cox has me worried.

Can't seem to bench the right ruckman

Yep, I have the same rucks, thinking about ditching either Cox or Kreuzer and using the money elsewhere, as Giles is killing it everyweek and i havent taken him off my bench yet!

What should I do!

 

[Double the Fist]

Cox will be warming the bench while Giles does his thing I think

 

[BOMBERBLITZ]

I do plan on trading Giles when he peaks in price to upgrade Magnet -> Pendles

 

[PP34]

What am I going to do if Sandi doesn't play this week.

 

[MightyMark]

Yep, I have the same rucks, thinking about ditching either Cox or Kreuzer and using the money elsewhere, as Giles is killing it everyweek and i havent taken him off my bench yet!

What should I do!

I'm trading him. I'm not going to leave Giles on the bench any more. May as well trade Cox, as his best is clearly behind him, and short of NicNat going down, Cox isn't going to improve enough.

Downgrade Cox, and use the cash elsewhere.

 

[MightyMark]

What am I going to do if Sandi doesn't play this week.

Pray that Redden and Stephenson get another crack

 

[Daniels]

Pray that Redden and Stephenson get another crack

Yes please!

 

[shurg123]

Started with Mummy + Hmac which then became Sandi and Hmac with Giles on the bench . At least I got half of it right, though I'm tempted to downgrade Sandi to O. Stephenson and upgrade Magner to Pendles this week...

 

[christoff91]

RUCK EXPERTS HELP PLEASE!!!
My current ruck is:
Kreuzer
Hale
Giles
Redden

I want to get rid of Hale, should i downgrade him to a cheapie and have Giles as my 2nd ruck? The downside is that would leave my bench non existant unless Redden comes back. Or should I upgrade Hale to someone better? Money is no problem

 

[lamaros]

From ages back in this thread, in Feb. Picking out a few key points!

Here's my definitive review, sorted by 2011 average (please point out any I have missed that you might be considering):

Cox: 2689 points in 2011 (#1). Low to medium risk. Great year last year, but West Coast did have a great season, and a draw that will not be repeated this time around. With Naitanui and Lycett pushing for more game time and time passing Cox might slip a bit from his top scoring form.

Goldstein: 2377 points in 2011 (#2). Low to medium risk. With HMac back fit and seemingly assured a place in the side there is a reasonable chance that Goldstein's scores could slide. Only one super season so far, so it remains to be seen if he can back it up.

Mumford: 1914 points in 2011 (#6). Low to medium risk. Probably the most assured of gametime of all the premium rucks, with two quality seasons under his belt and no one pushing for his spot in the sydney team. However he has never played a full season of games, so there is some concern there if he can keep himself on the park.

Sandilands: 1440 points in 2011. Low to medium risk. Injury concerns and a new coach means that Sandi is not as safe a choice as he could be, but he's still one of the best. Freemantle fans are pushing for other rucks to get a bit more time, and Lyon might be of the same view, so keep that in mind.

Naitanui: 1877 points in 2011 (#7). Medium risk. Some similar concerns to Cox in regards to how West Coast will do as a team, but everything else is a positive. Another year to learn the game, possibly more ruck time, and more experience should see him push his score a little higher again. Despite shoulder troubles he still managed 20 games in 2011, making him one of the most reliable rucks for games played.

Ryder: 1999 points in 2011 (#5). Medium risk. One of the most reliable players in the league, which can be very underrated. Ruckman often miss a couple of games here or there, but Ryder has only missed 4 games in the last 5 years, and never more than one a year. This enabled him to outscore many ruckmen with a better average in 2011. However, while his scoring has been reliable and is increasing the last three seasons, he has never pushed 100+ for a year, something a premium ruck now needs. His form from round 15 last year was excellent (~105), and I'm picking him for a big year in 2012, but there is some bias here that others might not follow. Concerns about his position (forward or ruck?) are offset for me by his goal-kicking potential, but others might not be as confident. Is only 23, so he should be entering his prime in 2012.

Jolly: 1080 points in 2011. High risk. With injury and age concerns, as well as the fact he has never scored that highly while at Collingwood, Jolly is someone you want to skip.

Kreuzer: 926 points in 2011. High risk. He has never scored that well. He is yet to show top form since his injury, and he is not assured of a high scoring ruck position. I'm sorry, but Kreuzer is too big a risk. If you are a believer then you can go for it, but I'd wait and see in the first few round before you commit to an expensive hope.

I did miss HMac's return to form, I admit. Lets hope things continue as they have.

 

[Spudregus_87]

Some great obs there Lamaros

Who'd you have as the six highest scoring mids?

 

[lamaros]

Some great obs there Lamaros

Who'd you have as the six highest scoring mids?

Ablett, Pendles, Watson, M Murphy, Gibbs o), and Dal Santo I think.

Picked Watson and Gibbs in my starting side, as I thought they were best value of the bunch, but Gibbs has let me down. Still time to come good, though. And Pendles has had the price drop and is now in (along with Murphy).

Getting Ablett in might be a bit tougher...

 

[Wharf]

My ruck line up is Sandi, NicNat and on the bench Giles and Longer.
Surely it's time to trade NicNat out and leave Giles on field. Can't have a bench player scoring 100+ every week.
Or should i just wait and evantually trade Giles for a nice sum.

 

[ThePezDispenser]

Trade out NicNat you serious?

Why not wait until after the bye debacle to make those sort of changes?

 

[Wharf]

^3 ruckmen scoring 100+ isn't ideal but right after the post i realised that. Plus that's around the time i'll trade the cash cows.

 

[BOMBERBLITZ]

Lamaros is actually Nostradamus

spot on with his Ruck review!

 

[BORK]

Not enough man love for Ivan Maric in here.

 

[Adz]

I've got Giles, Nic, Kreuzer and Stephenson.
Should I get rid of Kreuzer and for whom.
I'm in need of cash to upgrade midfield.

 

[Judd_Magic]

I've got Giles, Nic, Kreuzer and Stephenson.
Should I get rid of Kreuzer and for whom.
I'm in need of cash to upgrade midfield.

Either billy longer or some $94,000 cheap non playing spud is the way to go.

 

[toxic]

Either billy longer or some $94,000 cheap non playing spud is the way to go.

Longer for sure but don't be surprised if Witt from the pies gets game time this year

 

[Adz]

Will Giles play every game?

 

[Magpie Since 1986]

Will Giles play every game?

Given he is not a kid, he is 24 y/o and provided he remains in his current form, there is no reason to think he won't play close to every game.

 

[DivideandMultiply]

Giles has been a starting ruck since Sandi got injured.

Him and NN have been alright and TBH have considered trading Sandi for midfield cash.

 

[ILY Leonard]

Have Cox, McEvoy, Giles and Stephenson as my rucks.

Cox particularly and McEvoy are underperforming, with Giles outscoring them.

Thinking of trading one of them to bring in another premium in the midfield. Am I crazy? They're both gonna lose a lot of value in the coming weeks especially Cox

 

[Judd_Magic]

Have Cox, McEvoy, Giles and Stephenson as my rucks.

Cox particularly and McEvoy are underperforming, with Giles outscoring them.

Thinking of trading one of them to bring in another premium in the midfield. Am I crazy? They're both gonna lose a lot of value in the coming weeks especially Cox

I'd trade out Cox.

McEvoy is the Saints only specialist ruckman while Cox has Natanui to contend with.

Easy decision if it was me in your shoes.