Draft Review 2013 - Redo the 2013 AFL draft

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You Could Say Freeman has High Potential but been hurt for 2 years. So we don't know how good he is and can be..

Watts is a Dud. IF you can't get ahead of him then you not going to be around long

You may not know my view on Watts, but if you did...

That said, Salem's effort to finish higher from 9 games than Watts and Lumumba from 20 and 19 is a measure of his output in his second year.

But of course, this may prove a tad difficult for you to process.
 
Boyd still goes no 1 imo. It's wrong not to have him in the top 10 despite minimal output. If Boyd is not no 1 then MCCarthy gives it a shout. Having him at 10 is criminal imo. Top 4 are all about the same, then it's daylight:
1. Boyd
2. Cripps
3. McCarthy
4. Bont

It's tough to give the Pies a big tick on this draft. Scharenberg and Freman have barely played, and even if you include Aish, his 2015 was very modest. If you were to assess the output of clubs with top 10 picks we'd be coming last on output. Atm the saving grace is that we get Langdon and Marsh with 50+ picks. I think Marsh could be AA the way he has improved since being drafted, it's very exciting.
 

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You may not know my view on Watts, but if you did...

That said, Salem's effort to finish higher from 9 games than Watts and Lumumba from 20 and 19 is a measure of his output in his second year.

But of course, this may prove a tad difficult for you to process.

Obviously I don't know you View on Watts.

I rate Salem and I reckon he will be a Very Good Footballer but I have doubt on him Reaching Elite Status though
 
Pretty big call. I reckon you've discounted Luke McDonald who has similar stats (both had 2nd year blues as well).

Well done for recognising Ben Brown though.

Ye I could of slotted McDonald into next top five picks in hindsight.

I think his second year blues really discounted his great debut season. The fact that he was in and out of the Roo's lineup and subbed out of games often was poor.

Ben Brown, along with Lewis Taylor and perhaps Langdon (if he continues to play in the best 22) could be the steals of this draft
 
Interesting how Fast that 3 of the Top 10 have Already Moved to a Different Club

I think when Nathan Freeman put his hand up for a trade, Travis Cloke did an interview where he said he didn't like how the new generation of players feels entitled to ask for a trade so early into their careers.

I think player movement is something we are just going to have to accept. I think the Tom Boyd move was ridiculous - despite the money and the trade - its not a good look to pick a guy with the top pick and trade him out a year later. The Aish situation was always going to happen, but the real surprise would have to be Freeman.

It will be interesting to see if any players from the 2014 draft possibly move clubs in the next offseason.
 
Boyd still goes no 1 imo. It's wrong not to have him in the top 10 despite minimal output. If Boyd is not no 1 then MCCarthy gives it a shout. Having him at 10 is criminal imo. Top 4 are all about the same, then it's daylight:
1. Boyd
2. Cripps
3. McCarthy
4. Bont

It's tough to give the Pies a big tick on this draft. Scharenberg and Freman have barely played, and even if you include Aish, his 2015 was very modest. If you were to assess the output of clubs with top 10 picks we'd be coming last on output. Atm the saving grace is that we get Langdon and Marsh with 50+ picks. I think Marsh could be AA the way he has improved since being drafted, it's very exciting.

Boyd is an interesting one and everything would lead you into thinking he'll yet be a gun (Why shouldn't he be?) but he does have some pressures upon him and his club............that could make things awkward should he not cracking soon.

If we're looking at potential I'd still have Scharenberg high. Reckon he'll be a beauty.
 
Like some of the other redrafts, the players in this top ten will be based on their first two years in the AFL system. The players' future potential is hard to gauge this early into their careers, and will not be considered as highly compared to other redrafts I've done. I'm looking at who has impressed me the most in their first two seasons as a professional footballer.


You need to make this part of you OP bold and underlined otherwise 90% of the thread will be about how "x" has heaps of potential and should be much higher.
 
I don't.

And Watts is pathetic.

Agree that Salem easily has the potential to be an elite talent, you'd be a fool to say otherwise - very silky and skilful, very surprised he's not even on the list. But his injuries and unimpressive first year (probably due to vests) have probably meant that Tiarne has had to keep him lower on the list because the list is less so untapped potential, moreso what the players have done in their first 2 years.

That said, Josh Kelly has been very impressive considering that the talent of the GWS midfield that means he plays as a forward 70% of the time. Imagine him running freely in the midfield, scary.
 
Winner: Western Bulldogs by the length of the Flemington straight.

Bont could easily surpass Fyfe as the best player in the league within the next few seasons, and Boyd is the franchise tall they've needed for years. Throw in a late pick bargain in Mitch Honeychurch and it's daylight to 2nd.

Pricks nailed 2012 and 2014, too.
 
Winner: Western Bulldogs by the length of the Flemington straight.

Bont could easily surpass Fyfe as the best player in the league within the next few seasons, and Boyd is the franchise tall they've needed for years. Throw in a late pick bargain in Mitch Honeychurch and it's daylight to 2nd.

Pricks nailed 2012 and 2014, too.

Scharenberg, Aish & Langdon is a better haul than the Bulldogs.
 
With the 2016 AFL Draft just around the corner, I thought it would be fitting to bring back the 'Revisiting AFL Draft' series and redraft the 2013 AFL Draft.

Like some of the other redrafts, the players in this top ten will be based on their first two years in the AFL system. The players' future potential is hard to gauge this early into their careers, and will not be considered as highly compared to other redrafts I've done. I'm looking at who has impressed me the most in their first two seasons as a professional footballer.

As usual, rookie-drafted players will be omitted from the top ten; therefore leaving out the likes of Anthony Miles, Charlie Cameron and Kayne Turner.

The Bulldogs, the Pies and the Giants are the early winners of this draft and interestingly, there are three players in the top 10 of the 2013 AFL Draft who will don different colours in 2016.

Pick 1 won't feature in the new top 10, whilst the first two picks were both runner ups in the Rising Star Awards in '14 and '15.

Let's take a closer look.

2013 Draft

Pick 1: Tom Boyd (GWS)
Pick 2: Josh Kelly (GWS)
Pick 3: Jack Billings (St Kilda)
Pick 4: Marcus Bontempelli (Western Bulldogs)Pick 5: Kade Kolodjashnij (Gold Coast)
Pick 6: Matthew Scharenberg (Collingwood)
Pick 7: James Aish (Brisbane)
Pick 8: Luke McDonald (F/S - North Melbourne)
Pick 9: Christian Salem (Melbourne)
Pick 10: Nathan Freeman (Collingwood)

Redrafted

Pick 1 (GWS) - Marcus Bontempelli

The Western Bulldogs would be counting their blessings that Marcus Bontempelli fell to them with the fourth pick in the 2013 AFL Draft. As of right now, he is undoubtedly the number 1 pick in this redraft.

Bontempelli is the prototype for an AFL midfielder. He is tall, athletic, composed and highly skilled for a 19-year-old. Like Scott Pendlebury and David Mundy, he is well on his way to being a complete, all-round and starring midfielder.

The 'Bont' is the future and the face of the Bulldogs. Along with Jesse Hogan and the second pick in this redraft, Bontempelli is the next break out star in the AFL.

37 games in to his career, he has kicked 32 goals and is averaging 19 disposals, 3 marks, 5 tackles and almost a goal a game. This kid is a superstar.

He was runner-up in the NAB Rising Star Award in 2014, and polled third in the Bulldogs' B&F this year. The future is bright, or 'Bont', for the Bulldogs.

Pick 2 (GWS) - Patrick Cripps
I thought it would take more than two years to ask this question...but in all seriousness, how did Patrick Cripps fall to Carlton with the 13th pick in the 2013 AFL Draft.

They say 13 is an unlucky number, but Carlton, perhaps your fortunes have turned with the incredible emergence of Patrick Cripps this year.

After playing only 9 games in his debut season due to injuries, Cripps - the tall, strong-bodied midfielder (like the Bont) ensured everyone knew his name in 2015.

Cripps was one of the few shining lights in Carlton's 2015 campaign. He emerged as Carlton's saviour and new superstar after the retirement of Chris Judd.

Cripps averaged 24 disposals, 3 marks and 5 tackles a game in 2015, and finished 8th in the competition for Contested Possessions Per Game; 14th in Total Clearances and was elite in almost every category amongst the Rising Stars (despite finishing runner-up to Hogan in the actual Award).

23 games into his career and Cripps has already won his first B&F with the Blues. Exciting times ahead.

Pick 3 (St Kilda) - Kade Kolodjashnij
A few of you may be surprised by this selection, but Kade Kolodjashnij is one of the great young talents to come out of this draft so far.

Despite being drafted with pick 5 by the Gold Coast Suns in 2013, Kolodjashnij may have slipped under the radar due to playing up North. But I'll let his numbers to the talking.

Kolodjashnij has played 40 out of a possible 44 games to begin his AFL career. As you'll see later in the list, many of the 2013 draftees are lucky to have played 30 games to date.

Over his young career, he has averaged 20 disposals (22 in 2015) and 5 marks a game, and in 2015, he ranked 6th in Rebound 50s Per Game, and ranked 20th in Total Kicks in the league.

Safe to say, he is a weapon off the half-bank flank for the Suns. He might not be flashy or a superstar yet, but Kolodjashnij's composure, kicking efficiency and the ability to launch the Suns' attack from the defensive half at 19 years of age shouldn't be underestimated.

If this kid was playing in Victoria, you'd hear a lot more about him and his talents.

Pick 4 (St Kilda) - Lewis Taylor
Brisbane's Lewis Taylor wears the number 28 jersey for the Lions because, well, he was drafted 28th overall by Brisbane in the 2013 AFL Draft.

Taylor's first 44 AFL games (along with 28 goals) has him leading the very prestigious title as one of the steals of the 2013 AFL Draft.

Taylor is one the competitions shortest players, registering at a modest 173 cm's. Early on in his career, he has been compared to Boomer Harvey, with his ability to zig zag in and out of traffic, turn on the jets, kick goals on the run and display his raw pace and talents on the football field.

Along with Zorko and Rockliff, Taylor is quickly becoming the heart and soul of the Brisbane Lions. He is an exciting player who gets the crowd cheering when ever he nears the ball.

He has averaged 19 disposals, 4 marks and 2 tackles a game over his young career, and won the Rising Star Award over Marcus Bontempelli in 2014.

Despite concerns about Brisbane's young talent wanting to leave the club, the Lions have an absolute gem in Lewis Taylor. Sign him to a long-term contract...now!

Pick 5 (Gold Coast) - Jack Billings
Jack Billings was drafted third overall in 2013, selected by St Kilda. Like Lewis Taylor, Billings is a small, tough midfielder/small-forward who is an excitement machine when he gets going.

Despite only registering 25 AFL games in his first two seasons, there is a reason why Saints fans were outraged when Essendon asked for Billings in exchange for Carlisle. The fans love him, the club loves him, and with another preseason and some experience under his belt, Billings could be the next superstar to come out of the young crop of Saints players.

Billings is a smart, quick and promising talent who will spend most of his early career up forward until he builds the endurance and strength to compete in the midfield.

He has averaged 17 disposals, 5 marks and 2 tackles a game so far, and those numbers are destined to rise as he'll look to play a full season next year.

The AFL world got a glimpse into Billings' talents when he carried the Saints on his back, gathering 22 disposals, 7 marks and kicking 4 goals on the way to a stunning comeback win against the Bulldogs earlier this year.

Pick 6 (Collingwood) - Josh Kelly
The Greater Western Sydney Giants drafted Josh Kelly with the 2nd pick in the 2013 AFL Draft. Kelly is a very classy and a highly skilled midfielder who is fast becoming a rising star for the Giants.

Despite playing just 36 AFL games, Kelly has impressed already with his great decision making, his composure under pressure and his elite kicking skills.

He has kicked 20 goals as a midfielder, and has averaged 18 disposals, 4 marks and 3 tackles over his career.

With an array of young talent at the Giants over the past few years, we haven't seen enough of Kelly and his talents. But put Kelly into any Victorian side, and fans would be salivating at his talents and future potential by now.

In 2016, with the departure of Adam Treloar, we should see Kelly given more responsibilities to thrive and lead the Giants' midfield to finals glory.

Pick 7 (Brisbane) - Zach Merrett
If you're not an Essendon fan, Zach Merrett is another name that may have slipped under the radar from the 2013 AFL Draft pool.

However, Zach Merrett has been one of few feel good stories to come out of Tullamarine since the ASADA saga broke in 2013. Merrett was drafted 26th overall in 2013 by the Bombers.

Like Billings and Taylor before him, Merrett is a promising and young small-forward/midfielder type, whose speed, evasiveness and creativity has him as one of the exciting young talents in the competition.

To date, Merrett has played 37 games and kicked 15 goals. He has averaged 19 disposals, 4 marks and 5 tackles to begin his career. Before his foot injury, Merrett, along with Colyer, were the two players who brought speed and excitement to the Bombers line-up.

Merrett is a little pocket rocket who looks ready to explode once he starts playing in the midfield.

Don't sleep on Zach Merrett - he's a gem and an exciting prospect for Essendon's future.

Pick 8 (North Melbourne) - Ben Brown
Ben Brown made his way to North Melbourne via the 2013 AFL Draft. But it wasn't with pick 8. No...Ben Brown was selected with the 47th pick in 2013.

Say what you will about Ben Brown, but his first 33 games and 50 goals have been pretty impressive. To put it into perspective, Tom Boyd, the number one pick in this draft has played only 23 games and kicked 24 goals. He's even struggled to break into the Bulldog's team this year.

But back to Brown.

Brown, a 200cm key position forward has emerged as a genuine forward threat for the Kangaroos. Despite his awkward running and goal kicking style, Brown has been one of the more heart-warming and likeable characters to come out of this draft. With his 'Sideshow Bob' haircut, it's hard to miss Ben Brown on the field.

He is young, athletic and he provides a great spark for North. If Brown continues to emerge and develop, he may take over the number one forward role when Drew Petrie eventually retires.

Pick 9 (Melbourne) - James Aish
After being drafted by Brisbane with the 7th pick in 2013, James Aish has had one of the more controversial starts to an AFL career.

Despite a breakout first season, it seemed James Aish was destined to leave Brisbane even before he arrived. Fast forward two years and he is now wearing black and white, but Aish has had a promising first two years with the Lions before making the move.

Aish played 21 games in 2014, before adding only 11 this year due to injuries. Over his 32 games, he has averaged 17 disposals, 4 marks and 3 tackles a game.

Like Josh Kelly, Aish is a highly skilled midfielder and winger, whose decision making and kicking abilities have him highly regarded in the competition. There was a reason many clubs were inquiring about his availability in the off-season.

There is no doubt Aish will thrive under Collingwood's system. If he gets into the Pies best 22, he will make an immediate impact. There's a lot of pressure on him to perform, but I think he is an elite talent, and in a couple of years, he will move into the top 5 of the 2013 Redraft.

The ball is in your court James.

Pick 10 (Collingwood) - Cameron McCarthy
Cam McCarthy was drafted with pick 14 by the Giants in the 2013 Draft. If the 2015 trade period has taught us anything, it's that Geelong and Collingwood have serious recruiting skills, and that Cam McCarthy is a hot property. To cut a long story short, McCarthy was homesick and wanted a trade to Fremantle. GWS stuck to their word and didn't trade the contracted McCarthy.

GWS rates McCarthy and it's not hard to see why.

21 games and 36 goals. McCarthy is an unorthodox forward prospect who was given a chance by coach Leon Cameron and grabbed onto it in 2015.

McCarthy's best asset is his marking ability. He plucks the ball from anywhere and everywhere, and is a reliable marking threat for the Giants. He is an accurate kick at goal, registering 35 goals and 14 behinds this year.

If McCarthy settles back into Western Sydney life and doesn't let his homesickness affect his professionalism; well, then McCarthy could become GWS's main man as Jonathon Patton continues to recover from his knee issues.

Big call, but McCarthy takes the final spot in this redraft over former GWS player, Tom Boyd.

My next five redrafted picks:
Pick 11: Tom Boyd (originally pick 1)
Pick 12: Dom Sheed (originally pick 11)
Pick 13: Tom Langdon (originally pick 65)
Pick 14: Billy Hartung (originally pick 24)
Pick 15: Darcy Lang (originally pick 16)

Final Words
Despite losing the 10th pick in this draft - Nathan Freeman - Collingwood were one of the real winners in this draft. Scharenberg looks like he can play, and Derek Hine and his team managed to pluck Langdon and Jonathon Marsh from deep into the draft. Add pick 7 James Aish, and Collingwood can be pretty happy with their 2013 work.

GWS is another that would be thrilled. Kelly and McCarthy are two players who have started promisingly, and despite losing Tom Boyd to the Bulldogs, they added experience with Ryan Griffen in the trade and still drafted well.

St Kilda will now have two of the top ten picks from this draft (Freeman and Billings) in 2016, whilst Brisbane, despite losing Aish, added Lewis Taylor and key position players, Darcy Gardiner and Daniel McStay in 2013.

We are two years into seeing how the players of the 2013 AFL Draft develop, and so far, it's a pretty damn exciting class of players. I haven't even mentioned the likes of Ben Lennon, Jarmon Impey, Christian Salem or Mitch Honeychurch who will be on the rise in 2016.

Let's see what this redraft will look like in another 5 years.

Just to be clear, EFC never asked for Billings. That was just a HS article as he has family connections to EFC.
 

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Scharenberg, Aish & Langdon is a better haul than the Bulldogs.
Ignore him. He clearly barracks for the Bulldogs, but thinks he's fooling everyone by having North listed as the club he follows.

This way he can pump up everything WB do without it looking super-biased and bag the shit out of everything St Kilda, without it looking like severe bitterness from the 2009/2010 prelims. :D
 
Woo, James Aish. Langdon is the only one of them to have even remotely close to the impact that Bontempelli has had.

It's all about opportunity cost. The Bulldogs gave away Pick 6 in 2014 and their captain for Boyd and their salary cap is now full for years for a VFL level forward.
 
Woo, James Aish. Langdon is the only one of them to have even remotely close to the impact that Bontempelli has had.
We also have Marsh who has more potential than the other three. The argument for Collingwood is that from that draft we have four players who have a real chance of being 200 gamers. Marsh and Scharenberg have AA potential even though they've achieved very little to date. However I hope that no one is arguing that our top end talent from that draft is better than Footscray's because it clearly isn't.
 
You need to make this part of you OP bold and underlined otherwise 90% of the thread will be about how "x" has heaps of potential and should be much higher.
Even then it is a bit off. Aish was awful this year, Kelly struggled to get in the side and was sub often while there has been a lot of talk on how ineffective Taylor is. They are all ahead of McCarthy who kicked 35+ goals as a key forward, and Sheed who was a key part of a Grand Final sides midfield. I'm not sure on what basis she can justify any of them, especially Aish.
 
TiarneSwersky on what basis do you have Aish ahead of Sheed? Underwhelming numbers for Aish this year and his much vaunted decision making didn't seem special. Is it that he got games in his first year that he's ahead of McCarthy?

I probably overlooked Sheed. My bad. Aish had a great debut season despite his struggles this year. McCarthy has also had one very good year. And Sheed emerged this year. All three have had one good year so there is an arguement for him making the top 10.

I rate Aish a little higher than Sheed at the moment. That's just my opinion though
 
Why would the saints take taylor or collarjazzknee. Would prefer billings.

Also sheed being seriously under rated
The redraft isnt about who should take who. It's based on who has performed the best (in my opinion) in their first two years in the competition.

I've said I may have overlooked Sheed. My bad
 

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