2015/16 Pre-Season Thread

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The variance between their possession rates isn't anywhere near as stark as those numbers. One thing that is different is that CEY was better at getting the ball outside of the pressure area with his effective disposals because he's often on the move when he gains possession. A fair portion of Thommo's effective go to a player about to be tackled inside the stoppage or to a 50:50 loose ball situation. Because he was stationary so often he's easy to get to and he didn't use burst power to buy himself some time or take the would be tackler out of the next contest. Very, very different beasts to watch moving inside the congestion.

What I also liked about CEY was that when he got wrapped up in tight he would use those long arms to keep the ball clear and generally feed it out whereas when Thommo gets wrapped up he does his best hulk impersonation trying to shrug it then often gets forced to ground and then sits on his opponent on the way up for a ball up
 
No you can still maintain an opinion on bad selection decisions on previous years.

For last year, we can't know after Walshy's death what management was in place in respect to individual players. Some might not have wanted to or couldn't quite play at the AFL level for the sake of their overall wellness. We can't know if this is true or not regarding certain players, but that was enough of an extreme situation that it is impossible I think to make a valued judgement about why a player was or was not playing at a level we expected or not.

We've been making the same decisions consistently for ages. Out of form and mediocre experience first, undeveloped but in form potential last. If your meeting was in the boardroom it may have been written on the wall somewhere.
 

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We've been making the same decisions consistently for ages. Out of form and mediocre experience first, undeveloped but in form potential last. If your meeting was in the boardroom it may have been written on the wall somewhere.

Nice painting of Roo with his brownlow on and some pictures of the past board members. There was a whiteboard but that was nice and clean. Didn't see the other side, so it might have been on there?

I would have thought it didn't need to be written down as it was more an unwritten law. ;)
 
Our 'pace', apart from the first couple of rounds never stopped us from getting carved up. It was a constant theme throughout the season. When we turned it around was when we finally dropped guys giving us nothing in Wright and Dmac and then VB. Players getting their hands on the ball and using it well is much more important than a fast guy who can't impact the contest.
It's the ability to defend the outside , the uncontested ball , the scoring chains that is the main issue with an unbalanced side with too many inside types

It's our team defence that suffers more than our scoring ability
 
Nice painting of Roo with his brownlow on and some pictures of the past board members. There was a whiteboard but that was nice and clean. Didn't see the other side, so it might have been on there?

I would have thought it didn't need to be written down as it was more an unwritten law. ;)

It's probably in Noble's office or in his Outlook as a permanent Thursday alert.
 
It's the ability to defend the outside , the uncontested ball , the scoring chains that is the main issue with an unbalanced side with too many inside types

It's our team defence that suffers more than our scoring ability

We got smoked between the arcs regardless. It's not a leg speed issue, it's a team defence and intent issue. Brodie Martin was quick enough to get back in defence and be behind the ball while its in play. He's no longer what we'd describe as quick. I agree that ideally your in form and quality footballers bring a mix of physical attributes to the table. But playing a hopelessly out of form player because he's perceived to be fast is stupidity. Fitness and form first, then worry about the attributes. If it's a close call, eg Dmac wasn't playing terribly, then go with the attribute. But never sacrifice form for it entirely.
 
I got howled down by one of our posters on here yesterday who would you believe stated something along the lines "he still looks pretty small" etc etc when I noted his change in body shape and muscle definition along with losing his previously "ample" posterior this pre-season.......clearly they need a trip to Spec Savers or OPSM....

He a lot quicker too, got an extra yard of pace, One thing he has lost his wicket keepers body
 
Fantastic effort by the P.R. Department today :rolleyes:.

Release an article that CC will have a "very minor tidy-up" of his knee. Move on folks, nothing to look at here.

Quickly follow this with a very positive article that Jaensch, Otten and Hendo will be joining full training soon. Sneak in that Riley Knight will probably miss the NAB matches and casually announce that Keath will start his footy career in June or July.

Nice work guys.
 
Fantastic effort by the P.R. Department today :rolleyes:.

Release an article that CC will have a "very minor tidy-up" of his knee. Move on folks, nothing to look at here.

Quickly follow this with a very positive article that Jaensch, Otten and Hendo will be joining full training soon. Sneak in that Riley Knight will probably miss the NAB matches and casually announce that Keath will start his footy career in June or July.

Nice work guys.

June or July? I wonder if that means he'll be doing a solo full preseason or whether he's giving himself a couple of month's in England to try and crack their test team.
 
We got smoked between the arcs regardless. It's not a leg speed issue, it's a team defence and intent issue. Brodie Martin was quick enough to get back in defence and be behind the ball while its in play. He's no longer what we'd describe as quick. I agree that ideally your in form and quality footballers bring a mix of physical attributes to the table. But playing a hopelessly out of form player because he's perceived to be fast is stupidity. Fitness and form first, then worry about the attributes. If it's a close call, eg Dmac wasn't playing terribly, then go with the attribute. But never sacrifice form for it entirely.
It's not even all about speed , it's about players that can play that outside role

Atkins isn't especially quick but he knows how to play the role as does Sloane even though he's more suited in the contest
 

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I got howled down by one of our posters on here yesterday who would you believe stated something along the lines "he still looks pretty small" etc etc when I noted his change in body shape and muscle definition along with losing his previously "ample" posterior this pre-season.......clearly they need a trip to Spec Savers or OPSM....
I like your dramatic definition of 'howled down' considering I said we should agree to disagree. I also mentioned in my post that YOU replied to, that certain photos make players look bigger and smaller and that one of crouch is exhibit A. My shoulders would look huge in that photo as well.

Edit: that will be my last post about other men's muscles
 
I like your dramatic definition of 'howled down' considering I said we should agree to disagree. I also mentioned in my post that YOU replied to, that certain photos make players look bigger and smaller and that one of crouch is exhibit A. My shoulders would look huge in that photo as well.

Edit: that will be my last post about other men's muscles

Well, if your shoulders were in that photo then you'd be Matt Crouch. So obviously they'd look big.
 
Rat has had a massive pre-season, have heard from several sources that he has a real drive to make himself better. He was up in Hong Kong during his break late last year, and was absolutely flogging himself to ensure he hit pre-season in tip top shape. Looking forward to him cementing himself in the side this year, just oozes class.
 
Rat has had a massive pre-season, have heard from several sources that he has a real drive to make himself better. He was up in Hong Kong during his break late last year, and was absolutely flogging himself to ensure he hit pre-season in tip top shape. Looking forward to him cementing himself in the side this year, just oozes class.
this is what happens when you give young guys a taste!

he probably thinks he's around the mark and ready to step up last year, and what do you know he eventually gets a debut. Loves the big stage and has the touch to feel like he belongs. Fast forward a couple of weeks and he's feeling a bit shot and realises this AFL business is tougher than he thought.

sounds like the penny dropped and he wants to be in the big time full time, and knows the only thing holding him back is the hard work.
 
It only just occurred to me. We get these names from various players or coaches randomly and the name doesn't seem to get repeated. My bet is on Rat and Beech niw being responsible to organise and pay for the next morning tea.
Muffins looked pretty expensive down there too!
 
Menzel is in regardless

People need to stop listening to the BS, Troy has not missed a session since joining the main group in early December
I did ask you for some info in another thread. So we can assume the isdues surrounding his fitness are BS? M

Anything you can share about the program he's on?

Great news if he's clear to go
 
I did ask you for some info in another thread. So we can assume the isdues surrounding his fitness are BS? M

Anything you can share about the program he's on?

Great news if he's clear to go

Until I get confirmation of inside knowledge from TSR, I think remains a chance his prep hsn't aimed at round 1. Just sounds like his fitness is a fair bit off the pace and it's not like he's coming off a sound base.
 
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