Training 2015/16 preseason training (discussion)

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Scham said:
Ape no bigger but he doesn't need to be either.

He's a long way from being match ready though. Got a real uncomfortable looking gait like one leg is longer than the other or something.

He's kicking goals with a tennis ball now.
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It was quite disheartening to see Ape doing his 1/2 oval gentle run thrus today. He does seem to have an uncomfortable gait. He was staring at his feet after each run which can be a sign that he is struggling with fitness. I've seen coaches talking to him about his kicking action before which he often performs without a ball. The tennis ball thing today is either for him to demonstrate his action or to practice it. He probably hasn't kicked a ball for close to 6 months or more I would guess. On the up side, SOS and Yazz appear to be reasonably close to joining training. Yazz ran intervals around the oval and SOS did running and a little bit of ball work.
 
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PurpleReign said:
It was quite disheartening to see Ape doing his 1/2 oval gentle run thrus today. He does seem to have an uncomfortable gait. He was staring at his feet after each run which can be a sign that he is struggling with fitness. I've seen coaches talking to him about his kicking action before which he often performs without a ball. The tennis ball thing today is either for him to demonstrate his action or to practice it. He probably hasn't kicked a ball for close to 6 months or more I would guess. On the up side, SOS and Yazz appear to be reasonably close to joining training. Yazz ran intervals around the oval and SOS did running and a little bit of ball work.
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Does anyone know why SOS is rehabbing? That guy is never fit.
 
dockerfemme said:
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Does anyone know why SOS is rehabbing? That guy is never fit.
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I was just thinking the same thing this morning. He did a bit of agility work today but not at top speed. He did some run throughs too but not at top speed, he also did a couple of running shots on goal which he did perform at speed so it was difficult to assess exactly why he is being held back.
 
PurpleReign said:
It was quite disheartening to see Ape doing his 1/2 oval gentle run thrus today. He does seem to have an uncomfortable gait. He was staring at his feet after each run which can be a sign that he is struggling with fitness. I've seen coaches talking to him about his kicking action before which he often performs without a ball. The tennis ball thing today is either for him to demonstrate his action or to practice it. He probably hasn't kicked a ball for close to 6 months or more I would guess. On the up side, SOS and Yazz appear to be reasonably close to joining training. Yazz ran intervals around the oval and SOS did running and a little bit of ball work.
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I don't know how long you were there for PR but SOS did an absolute power of work. Started with the others but was last to leave the track by a long way and did more taxing drills than the others too. He said that he's back with the main group next week
 
Scham said:
I don't know how long you were there for PR but SOS did an absolute power of work. Started with the others but was last to leave the track by a long way and did more taxing drills than the others too. He said that he's back with the main group next week
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Just to add some further info to that presented by PurpleReign and Scham in their posts above.
Yeah I agree with Scham as above as I was standing with Fred Ziffel for a while at the 50 metre arc on the northern end having earlier been up at the clubhouse and we both considered SOS was having a very tough fitness test of sorts. After he had done various running and agility drills he then had shots at goal on the run at speed. Then he had one of the conditioning guys kick the ball to him where SOS had run out at 45 degrees to take a mark. He alternated marking with spoiling the ball . He was the last to leave the track after running some laps and his overall performance was very very good. He had well over 90 mins of almost non-stop hard work on the day. Some of the drills that he had to do were similarly applied to Mora when he was being tested.

Re: Apeness best you see PurpleReign and Scham's posts as an independent or rather a realistic view to how he is tracking which is contrary to the view being espoused by couldhavebeen (who suggests he is well ahead of schedule and discounts that he is limping in his running) as we cant upset a fellow poster unless they are from the St Kilda and Giants boards.

Harley Bennell was at the ground but didn't do any training and a player who looked like Alex Pearce was working in the gym on one of the bikes but only saw him through the windows (cant see that well through them as they have film applied).

Fyfey did a lot of running including twisting and turning.He did some short kicking with almost no follow through with the conditioning guys which looked like a scissor action taking pressure of his back. He later had some shots on goal following through a little further but over a very short distance.

Yarran ran laps all session except for a short time at the end when he had some short kicks with one of the conditioning guys.

One of the conditioning guys said that the players were running the 3km's time trial today at another location. Danyle Pearce and Sandi (in his bright orange Gecko Contractors 4WD) drove in as training on the field had finished so not sure if they were to do any more work but Harley Bennell and Sandi then drove away.

Hoping to see a great session on Friday when most of the players will be on the field with the Rehab list being down to maybe 1 or 2.
 
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Scham said:
I don't know how long you were there for PR but SOS did an absolute power of work. Started with the others but was last to leave the track by a long way and did more taxing drills than the others too. He said that he's back with the main group next week
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I left at around 10, it's great to hear that he's done with re-habbing. I'm touching wood as I say this but the list is looking pretty healthy. Fyfe and Clarke did quite a bit of 3/4 pace running. I was expecting to see Bennell there today but he must be ready to join full training. Ape looks like the only serious injury we have. Fyfe is moving particularly well considering he only had the bionic spine graft a week or 2 ago.
The CH7 helicopter flew over the ground early in the session, Basil and Co. were probably filing an up-close, first-hand, painstakingly accurate update on Fyfe's season ending back injury. I reckon you could make quite a meticulous assessment from 500m above the ground.
 
PurpleReign said:
It was quite disheartening to see Ape doing his 1/2 oval gentle run thrus today. He does seem to have an uncomfortable gait. He was staring at his feet after each run which can be a sign that he is struggling with fitness. I've seen coaches talking to him about his kicking action before which he often performs without a ball. The tennis ball thing today is either for him to demonstrate his action or to practice it. He probably hasn't kicked a ball for close to 6 months or more I would guess. On the up side, SOS and Yazz appear to be reasonably close to joining training. Yazz ran intervals around the oval and SOS did running and a little bit of ball work.
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For couldhavebeen to note PurpleReign and Scham's posts about Apeness and their independent views show the current position with Michael and his limp. So Coulda we cant all be wrong and your the only one who suggests he is tracking well.
 

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PurpleReign said:
I left at around 10, it's great to hear that he's done with re-habbing. I'm touching wood as I say this but the list is looking pretty healthy. Fyfe and Clarke did quite a bit of 3/4 pace running. I was expecting to see Bennell there today but he must be ready to join full training. Ape looks like the only serious injury we have. Fyfe is moving particularly well considering he only had the bionic spine graft a week or 2 ago.
The CH7 helicopter flew over the ground early in the session, Basil and Co. were probably filing an up-close, first-hand, painstakingly accurate update on Fyfe's season ending back injury. I reckon you could make quite a meticulous assessment from 500m above the ground.
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Yeah Baz with his Bino's in the Chopper. They may have been heading over to the other venue where the boys did the time trial.

Just as an aside did you know there is a Leader's Board in the reception area where Donor's for the build of the existing Clubhouse are listed and Bazil's name is on that Board so does he support Freo or the Slime up the road.

Clarkey basically did his running in the same pattern for the whole session out to the marker he had out and back and didn't seem to do too much else.I noted he had 1 knee bandaged whereas on some days he had 2 on. Maybe the club is light on for tape ha ha .
 
It seemed most of the players had to check in at the club for a period with most rolling up just before 10:30 in a convoy. Some only stayed for half an hour at the most.

Just to add to a previous post re the players vehicles;

Smith and Mora each in hotted up Holden Utes. Collins riding with Smith.

Neale in a Captiva

Hilly chauffeuring Jonno in a Jeep Grand Cherokee (top of the range)

Ibbo in a black Prado

Mundy in a Santa Fe (no doubt sponsored as Bondy and a few others had one too).

Quite a few had 4 x 4 utes including Mz and Spurry and as DannyTheDoorman said, a few including Sandi's are brightly badged with Gecko.

Bondy was in his holiday wear and left his kids on the verandah to watch training, which his son intently watched.

Yes Danny the bloke on the bike was AP.
 
PurpleReign said:
The CH7 helicopter flew over the ground early in the session, Basil and Co. were probably filing an up-close, first-hand, painstakingly accurate update on Fyfe's season ending back injury. I reckon you could make quite a meticulous assessment from 500m above the ground.
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Scham said:
It seemed most of the players had to check in at the club for a period with most rolling up just before 10:30 in a convoy. Some only stayed for half an hour at the most.

Just to add to a previous post re the players vehicles;

Smith and Mora each in hotted up Holden Utes. Collins riding with Smith.

Neale in a Captiva

Hilly chauffeuring Jonno in a Jeep Grand Cherokee (top of the range)

Ibbo in a black Prado

Mundy in a Santa Fe (no doubt sponsored as Bondy and a few others had one too).

Quite a few had 4 x 4 utes including Mz and Spurry and as DannyTheDoorman said, a few including Sandi's are brightly badged with Gecko.

Bondy was in his holiday wear and left his kids on the verandah to watch training, which his son intently watched.

Yes Danny the bloke on the bike was AP.
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In regards the player's coming back at about 10.30 I saw the convoy but at a distance. I guess they probably had to check in for the day's program to see if they were required for anything else after today's 3km run and some probably dropped in for lunch.

I suspect that Bennell didn't do the run as he was at training around 9 but maybe he did and got away early to be at Freo Oval.

Was that Yarran as a passenger in Bennell's white Jeep 4WD when they left training?
 
Scham said:
It seemed most of the players had to check in at the club for a period with most rolling up just before 10:30 in a convoy. Some only stayed for half an hour at the most.

Just to add to a previous post re the players vehicles;

Smith and Mora each in hotted up Holden Utes. Collins riding with Smith.

Neale in a Captiva

Hilly chauffeuring Jonno in a Jeep Grand Cherokee (top of the range)

Ibbo in a black Prado

Mundy in a Santa Fe (no doubt sponsored as Bondy and a few others had one too).

Quite a few had 4 x 4 utes including Mz and Spurry and as DannyTheDoorman said, a few including Sandi's are brightly badged with Gecko.

Bondy was in his holiday wear and left his kids on the verandah to watch training, which his son intently watched.

Yes Danny the bloke on the bike was AP.
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Not sure if he was there today, but I spotted Ballas in Denmark last week (at the toffee factory) in a Ford F350 ute - it looked WAY too big for him :)
 
E Shed said:
Doc Larkins will probably access some google maps satellite photos of Freo oval to make his diagnoses on Fyfe.
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Your right that's it some satellite imagery from Landgate will do the trick. If satellites can tell us the temperature of ocean currents Landgate surely should be able cobble an application together (let's call it a Fyfinator) for use in remote diagnosis of injuries by Doc Larkin. Maybe they can also cobble a application to diagnose game plans. That lines up with RTB's comments who often talks about letting the cobblers cobble. A newly cobbled game plan might help us knock over Hawthorn and get us the Cup. Just remember let the "Cobbler's" cobble. :);)
 
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DannyTheDoorman said:
In regards the player's coming back at about 10.30 I saw the convoy but at a distance. I guess they probably had to check in for the day's program to see if they were required for anything else after today's 3km run and some probably dropped in for lunch.

I suspect that Bennell didn't do the run as he was at training around 9 but maybe he did and got away early to be at Freo Oval.

Was that Yarran as a passenger in Bennell's white Jeep 4WD when they left training?
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Not sure? I saw Bennell there in his bike shorts, tank top and bare feet talking to the conditioning guy. Probably been doing a yoga session? But I didn't see him leave.
 

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