2015 Ladder predictions

[Thrillhouse!]

If Sydney cared about there final roster match West Coast would have made the 8, it's as simple as that. Richmond were in on false pretenses and there performance showed.

How about adding McGlynn, Pyke and Bird? So 5 out of there best team including there best two players, the number 1 ruck and given the conditions the game was played in McGlynn and Bird would have thrived.

Mate im not arguing we didnt have things going our way in the final round. Because we did.. im arguing that we deserved the spot more than anyone else below us. Especially west coast who had the chance to stop us and consolidate a spot in the 8. But instead fell on there home turf. so your talk of fale pretense makes no argument. West coast weren't good enough and we were.

 

[Halftimehero]

Mate im not arguing we didnt have things going our way in the final round. Because we did.. im arguing that we deserved the spot more than anyone else below us. Especially west coast who had the chance to stop us and consolidate a spot in the 8. But instead fell on there home turf. so your talk of fale pretense makes no argument. West coast weren't good enough and we were.

In the end it all came down to the final round, Richmond would not have beaten Sydney if they were full strength and therefore West Coast would have made the 8. The fact that Sydney weren't fair dinkum is the only reason the Eagles missed out, what happened in the rounds previous matters very little.

 

[lmach]

Who cares about last season; I'm confident West Coast will be a better side than Richmond next year.

 

[thetradesman]

1. Hawthorn
2. Geelong
3. Port
4. Sydney
5. Richmond
6. Essendon
7. Brisbane
8. North
9. Freo
10. Gold Coast
11. Adelaide
12. West Coast
13. Collingwood
14. Melbourne
15. Carlton
16. GWS
17. Bulldogs
18. Saints

 

[Halftimehero]

Richmond won when it mattered under immense pressure needing to win 9 in a row to make it with no room for error. West Coast crumbled under the slightest bit of pressure all season, shown by their woeful record agaisnt the top 8. They couldnt match any of the decent teams. Richmond deserved finals far more than the Eagles.

Richmond won in round 23 because Sydney didn't give a heck about the match enough to want to win, therefore Richmond making the finals was a false pretense and they got showed up accordingly.

 

[thetradesman]

Richmond won in round 23 because Sydney didn't give a heck about the match enough to want to win, therefore Richmond making the finals was a false pretense and they got showed up accordingly.

We still won. All that matters.

And we will go deep into September next year

 

[Thrillhouse!]

Who cares about last season; I'm confident West Coast will be a better side than Richmond next year.

pretty brave statment. We will see

 

[Halftimehero]

We still won. All that matters.

And we will go deep into September next year

Ok, good luck with that

 

[Thrillhouse!]

Richmond won in round 23 because Sydney didn't give a heck about the match enough to want to win, therefore Richmond making the finals was a false pretense and they got showed up accordingly.

Because the bombers first final went so well didnt it? The bombers are looking the goods. Not one of the top 8 sides would of beaten port that day. The were awesome. And the rest of there finals series proved that.

 

[Thrillhouse!]

Back on topic

1. Hawks
2. Sydney
3. Port
4. Freo
5. North
6. Geelong
7. Richmond
8. Gold coast
9. Crows
10. Eagles
11. Pies
12. Bombers
13. Dogs
14. Lions
15. Carlton
16. Melbourne
17. Gws
18. Saints

 

[Barry_Badrinath]

In the end it all came down to the final round, Richmond would not have beaten Sydney if they were full strength and therefore West Coast would have made the 8. The fact that Sydney weren't fair dinkum is the only reason the Eagles missed out, what happened in the rounds previous matters very little.

And the Bulldogs would not have beaten Richmond in round 3 if Richmond were at full strength, so it cancels out.

West Coast had the opportunity to claim a top 8 spot by beating the Tiges but they lost on their home deck.

 

[Halftimehero]

Because the bombers first final went so well didnt it? The bombers are looking the goods. Not one of the top 8 sides would of beaten port that day. The were awesome. And the rest of there finals series proved that.

Bombers lost there first final in the last few minutes, they were in the game right til the end. Richmond may as well have been heading for the airport within 10 minutes of there match starting

 

[Halftimehero]

And the Bulldogs would not have beaten Richmond in round 3 if Richmond were at full strength, so it cancels out.

West Coast had the opportunity to claim a top 8 spot by beating the Tiges but they lost on their home deck.

Richmond were absolutely rubbish for the first 12 weeks, wouldn't have mattered who was out there for them against the Dogs they would have lost.

 

[Dirty_11]

In the end it all came down to the final round, Richmond would not have beaten Sydney if they were full strength and therefore West Coast would have made the 8. The fact that Sydney weren't fair dinkum is the only reason the Eagles missed out, what happened in the rounds previous matters very little.

I would argue it comes down to where you finish on the ladder after the home and away season not the final round. 22 games in a season pal.

 

[HODGEYROAD]

We still won. All that matters.

And we will go deep into September next year

By deep I hope you mean 2nd week? Because the 2nd week of september is week 1 of the finals in 2015

 

[thetradesman]

By deep I hope you mean 2nd week? Because the 2nd week of september is week 1 of the finals in 2015

Untapped potential, week 3 at the very least then.

 

[Barry_Badrinath]

Richmond were absolutely rubbish for the first 12 weeks, wouldn't have mattered who was out there for them against the Dogs they would have lost.

Richmond were absolutely awesome for the last 9 weeks, wouldn't have mattered who was out there for the Swans, they would have lost.

See how stupid that sounds?

 

[Halftimehero]

I would argue it comes down to where you finish on the ladder after the home and away season not the final round. 22 games in a season pal.

If Richmond had played Sydney 3 weeks earlier when the game had ramifications on where the Swans would finish then it would have been a different result, so I would argue in this case it had everything to do with the game being in the last round.

 

[Halftimehero]

Richmond were absolutely awesome for the last 9 weeks, wouldn't have mattered who was out there for the Swans, they would have lost.

See how stupid that sounds?

Except you know that isn't the case, anyway they made the 8 as we all know and provided plenty of entertainment and laughs for us all and ensured my team wasnt the biggest failure of the finals series.

 

[likedagrass]

Roos
suns
dockers
swans
eagles
power
hawks
crows
tigers
giants
cats
dee
lions
pies
dogs
bombers
blues
saints

 

[Thrillhouse!]

Except you know that isn't the case, anyway they made the 8 as we all know and provided plenty of entertainment and laughs for us all and ensured my team wasnt the biggest failure of the finals series.

I can smell your richmond hatred fron here. You could prob ramble on forever about how good yous are and how bad we are.

 

[Halftimehero]

I can smell your richmond hatred fron here. You could prob ramble on forever about how good yous are and how bad we are.

Don't get me mixed up with Barry, his Essendon hatred is legendary on Bigfooty.

 

[Keays2myBeamas]

1 Port
2 Hawthorn
3 Sydney
4 Gold Coast
5 Geelong
6 North
7 Freo
8 Adelaide
9 Richmond
10 GWS
11 Collingwood
12 Eagles
13 Lions
14 Dogs
15 Essendon
16 Carlton
17 Melbourne
18 St Kilda

 

[Art Vandelay_]

* The improvement Daniher made in the second half of this season was outstanding and we will be seeing more matches like his first final appearance where he kicked 4 goals next season. Carlisle has shown that he can absolutely monster backmen and after having just completed his first season as a forward will also improve even further next season.

* Bellchambers is reportedly over his injuries and will resume then number 1 ruck role he previously held over Ryder

* Cooney will be a good player, will spend more time forward and wont be getting tagged at like he was at the Bulldogs, not sure you can say he is cooked either as has only missed 2 or 3 games a season for the last couple. Gwilt and Giles have been brought in as back up

* Thompson did no better than Hird last year so I don't see it as a massive loss and he certainly isn't the best in the business.

* Absolutely nothing wrong with our midfield, outside the two A grade stars you mentioned you can throw in Goddard, Zaharakis and Myers for experience and young up and coming stars in Zac Merrett and Marty Gleeson. Cooney and Chapman will also run through there at times.

We finished 7th yes, we were beaten in the Elimination final in the last few minutes by a team that then went on and made a preliminary final, had we had Jake Carlisle and Dustin Fletcher in that match then some would argue the result may have been different. We beat all those teams you mentioned that you think will overtake us and 3 of them in the last few weeks of the season. I cant see any genuine reason why we would be falling off the pace in the space of 6 months.

Personally I see Essendon stagnating and finishing roughly the same position as last season.

 

[hollywood23]

It is simply staggering how many people underrate Essendon most possibly because of Asada. Outside of Hawthorn and Sydney, our best 22 fully fit and firing can match it with every other team. Comfortably.

Carlisle has shown that he could be anything at the back end of the season once he was settled as a forward, let alone Daniher. Both are under 22yo.

Hurley did the same at the other end and Hooker was AA. Both are around 25yo.

Watson & Heppell are A grade mids. Goddard & Zaharakis are B+ and then you rotate Cooney, Myers, Hocking, Howlett, Stanton, Z. Merrett, Chapman through. That is not a weak midfield.

Baguley Hurley Fletcher
Hibberd Hooker Dempsey
Goddard Watson Colyer
Cooney Carlisle Chapman
Winderlich Daniher Z. Merrett
TBC Heppell Zaharakis
Howlett Hocking Ambrose Myers

Stanton
Gleeson
J. Merrett
Melksham
Giles
Gwilt

Although Ryder is a big loss, that is largely offset by a fit TBC who had a great 2013 and out-performed Ryder when fit that year.

All the Asada bullshit aside, it is silly to think we won't be thereabouts in finals contention at least, provided we avoid injuries to multiple key players.