2015 Non-Crows AFL Discussion - Pt. 1

[Alex99]

This isn't my first account young man. I originally joined in 2011. So I guess you could say reverse bandwagoner.

 

[Alfred_]

Ask your resident bay posters. They all have fond memories of me.

 

[1970crow]

But they would still be benefiting from a punishment, which simply cannot happen. If they lost say 50% of their best 22 (for argument sake) it is without a doubt they would finish bottom or very close to. They would then receive the number one pick (or close to) when in actual fact there would be team(s) with a worse team than them. I'm not saying I have the solution, and I'm not suggesting take away their picks all together (because they've already had draft sanctions as you pointed out).

All I'm saying is if I were a Brisbane or Carlton fan, and knew my team was likely to finish bottom, I'd be pretty annoyed losing the number one pick to another team because of their punishment. Otherwise Essendon's penalty will have an effect on other clubs.

Yeh, fair point. It's a false last because when the players return the list is immediately stronger. Could lock them in at the 2015 position being the 'true' value of the lists performance.

 

[Alex99]

Ask your resident bay posters. They all have fond memories of me.

Yeah, no.

 

[Bicks]

This isn't my first account young man. I originally joined in 2011. So I guess you could say reverse bandwagoner.

Nup, that tells all you are a certified, uncategorical TOTAL bandwagoner...

 

[baldandbroke]

So are the four Xmas presents for the Power ...

1. Boak
2. Gray
3. Wingard
4. Wines

That is a great list of re-signings.

 

[Legz]

So are the four Xmas presents for the Power ...

1. Boak
2. Gray
3. Wingard
4. Wines

That is a great list of re-signings.

Wines is assumed not likely to be included.

Boak & Gray were already signed till 2018. Just 1 yr extensions.

 

[Mego Red]

Speaking to the Hawthorn scout that flagged Gunston as a target for Hawthorn suggests to me that NC not gifting games to the best talent is why we lost him. There was so much right about NC but it wasn't enough to counter his failings/beliefs unfortunately.

This is how I feel. I can acknowledge his successes - but they were outweighed by his failings, sadly.

 

[Papa G]

Secondary (or third or fourth) accounts are pretty sad aren't they Alex?

 

[Alfred_]

Nup, that tells all you are a certified, uncategorical TOTAL bandwagoner...

Oh no they think I'm a bandwagoner! What should I do?

 

[Crowked]

What makes him think I'm a bandwagoner?

70% of you are

 

[Alex99]

Secondary (or third or fourth) accounts are pretty sad aren't they Alex?

Oh no, Paul Northeast has got me.

 

[Alex99]

Oh no they think I'm a bandwagoner! What should I do?

Ummmmmmm, how about ****ing off

 

[Chad WinGOAT]

But they would still be benefiting from a punishment, which simply cannot happen. If they lost say 50% of their best 22 (for argument sake) it is without a doubt they would finish bottom or very close to. They would then receive the number one pick (or close to) when in actual fact there would be team(s) with a worse team than them. I'm not saying I have the solution, and I'm not suggesting take away their picks all together (because they've already had draft sanctions as you pointed out).

All I'm saying is if I were a Brisbane or Carlton fan, and knew my team was likely to finish bottom, I'd be pretty annoyed losing the number one pick to another team because of their punishment. Otherwise Essendon's penalty will have an effect on other clubs.

Intruder alert.
I think the big thing being overlooked is that Essendon's list isn't that great to begin with. They'll most likely finish bottom 4 even without sanctions. So IF they do get sanctioned, which is a big if at the moment, then finishing dead last wouldn't necessarily be a stretch for this current Bombers list. Heck they could finish last even without the sanctions. It'd be the equivalent of having a very long injury list and finishing near the foot of the ladder. Which happened to both Brisbane and Gold Coast this year as well. If I recall correctly, the Suns barely had enough players to field 22 against you at one point during the year. Players were banned for drinking alcohol/ doing the wrong thing. It'd virtually be a similar circumstance for Essendon. Albeit a controversial one.

If anything, if this doomsday scenario does occur, I'd be more fearful of Essendon getting back to back nunmber 1 draft picks AND priority picks gifted by the AFL. Essentially undoing the sanction placed on them not too long ago. This is the VFL after all, Essendon are viewed as a "Big 4" club based on fan base and history. I'm sure the AFL views Essendon as "too big to fail." I wouldn't put it past the AFL to jump in and help lift them up if the unthinkable happens.


P.S. Kill that 12 Days of Christmas video with fire. Please.

 

[baldandbroke]

Wines is assumed not likely to be included.

Boak & Gray were already signed till 2018. Just 1 yr extensions.

Well those extensions are for a reason ... good sign if you ask me. Even if it is just Wingard, that is like Sloane re-signing for us.

If they nail both Wines and Wingard in the same breath, that is very very good work.

 

[RippaRiley43]

P.S. Kill that 12 Days of Christmas video with fire. Please.

Agree with all of your post (including killing that horrendous song with fire), but what on earth were you doing on the Crows website/YouTube? Can't say I ever have the desire to check out the Power equivalents

 

[Chad WinGOAT]

Agree with all of your post (including killing that horrendous song with fire), but what on earth were you doing on the Crows website/YouTube? Can't say I ever have the desire to check out the Power equivalents

Was ill advised by a friend of mine. Lasted up to day 3 before giving up. Came here to find the reaction from your end.

 

[treeman]

Just spoke to a Port mate. He is pretty sure by the website clue tomorrow will be a Brad Ebert resigning.

 

[Elite Crow]

Just spoke to a Port mate. He is pretty sure by the website clue tomorrow will be a Brad Ebert resigning.

If it is Ebert they better finish with a Wines or Chad because none of the 3 so far were expected to leave

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

They haven't lost many good players the last few years. I wouldn't get my hopes up.

Apart from Burgoyne I guess but that's going back a while now.

 

[BACCS]

They haven't lost many good players the last few years. I wouldn't get my hopes up.

Apart from Burgoyne I guess but that's going back a while now.

I think Wines is the only one at risk of leaving, I have just never felt he is totally committed to living in SA and would move back to Melbourne if the right offer came along. Another poor year by Port would also throw a spanner in the works. Can't see him being one of the re-signings, probably Ebert and Wingard. Look, I think he's more likely to stay than not, but there is a risk.

Now, which Port poster is on duty to report this back to the Port board?

 

[OneGreatClub]

So are the four Xmas presents for the Power ...

1. Boak
2. Gray
3. Wingard
4. Wines

That is a great list of re-signings.

Wines will be after Christmas we are hearing.

 

[OneGreatClub]

I think Wines is the only one at risk of leaving, I have just never felt he is totally committed to living in SA and would move back to Melbourne if the right offer came along. Another poor year by Port would also throw a spanner in the works. Can't see him being one of the re-signings, probably Ebert and Wingard. Look, I think he's more likely to stay than not, but there is a risk.

Now, which Port poster is on duty to report this back to the Port board?

But it's not worth posting back.

 

[BACCS]

But it's not worth posting back.

The fact you had to reply would suggest it is . I'm sure you disagree, I always had the same optimism with Danger.

Another sub par year and the lure of success isn't so appealing anymore.

 

[OneGreatClub]

The fact you had to reply would suggest it is . I'm sure you disagree, I always had the same optimism with Danger.

Another sub par year and the lure of success isn't so appealing anymore.

It's slightly possible, but very doubtful we would have a sub par year though. Wines told one of our very reliable supporters at the b and f that he is staying. He hasn't said 'he's not sure.' The terms are being worked out.