List Mgmt. 2015 Trade, Free agency and draft rumours

[dipper86]

Fair enough, but again in your opinion
Maybe Im just a harsh judge
I remember a couple of years back having a discussion of this sort over a ruckman who had been on our list a long time...
But I respect your opinion nonetheless

I'm sorry you've lost me....was this a discussion with me.

 

[Glacier]

I'm sorry you've lost me....was this a discussion with me.

Yes it was, do you remember it ??

 

[dipper86]

They will have a lot of mids in the same age bracket all wanting a pay rise at the same time. Cloke will be gone by the time these boys are in the prime.
Given Moore appears to be a ripper. I would have thought instead of tracking Aish as well as Treloar they might have been chasing KPP.

Things can turn around pretty quickly, especially in terms of development. Treloar is already a ready made that will be adding to the group in terms of a mature footballer far beyond his years.
Cloke by that time will be a secondary option to Moore....they are going extremely hard at adding talent to its list with a very good track record at development.....Personally I think they are doing all the right things...it makes me sick.

 

[dipper86]

Yes it was, do you remember it ??

Nope....enlighten me.

 

[Gaston]

Sooooo, anyone who hasn't nominated a club, could be at the Hawks!!!!!


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Yes, that's why Carlisle's silence is deafening.

2 weeks after the season is complete and most destinations are coming to light but no reference on the Carlisle situation. Just guesses or implied references to St Kilda and the Bulldogs.

In conjunction with Frawley, our back line is set for the next 6 years.

 

[sven_inc]

No word from Carlisle, Bennell, Dangerfield either

No word from Danger, but the word is there will be word next week after the Brownlow, AA and BnF are over. Word.

 

[Great 2008]

Jarrad Jansen young Cats big bodied mid requesting a trade to Brisbane for more game time.

 

[Glacier]

Nope....enlighten me.

We had a robust discussion on whether that ruckman who had been on our list for a long time for one senior game would ever make it
dasher ended up getting involved

 

[bris tarangau]

No word from Danger, but the word is there will be word next week after the Brownlow, AA and BnF are over. Word.

If all these rumours are true and he is going to Geelong, is there any relevance in waiting after these events (mentioned above) are over before making the announcement? Can someone with public relations/media insight shed some light over this strategy?

 

[halfback dasher]

We had a robust discussion on whether that ruckman who had been on our list for a long time for one senior game would ever make it
dasher ended up getting involved

Hay , hay , hay .......don't go dragging me in on your little Tay ta Tay !!!





After all , It was just my opinion about the ruckman in question

 

[Ned Ryerson]

Jarrad Jansen young Cats big bodied mid requesting a trade to Brisbane for more game time.

Is game time that important when you are getting pumped every week? You know you are desperate when you are willingly looking at being traded to the Lions.

 

[sven_inc]

General thoughts on Can Ellis-Yolman? Athletic big-bodied grunt midfielder who showed some excellent form when given a chance. Apparently sniffing around offers from Vic clubs.

Any genuine scope for improvement?

 

[Boo71]

I don't think Aish will be elite

Good enough justification for me mate, since that's pretty close to how everyone makes an OPINION about who they'd like to see playing for our club.

 

[Ned Ryerson]

If all these rumours are true and he is going to Geelong, is there any relevance in waiting after these events (mentioned above) are over before making the announcement? Can someone with public relations/media insight shed some light over this strategy?

Because sitting at the Crows table and potentially winning the Brownlow after just saying you'll play elsewhere next year isn't the greatest look. Even on good terms, clubs (not the players mind you) can get a tad salty when you leave. Look at Gunston when he left Adelaide.

 

[Brishawk]

Good god
I have no criticism of Aish, again please quote my posts that say so
As for meaningful discussion, you attacked me because you don't agree with my opinion, did you not?

Apparently I have to write an essay to support an opinion where as others do not
Ok, I don't think Aish will be elite
There's my essay
Feel free to tear it apart

I find myself feeling somewhat childishly gleeful that you are frustrated now, due to the fact you are trying to act superior

You compared him to Rhys Palmer...

If you don't think Aish will be elite based on what you have seen please elaborate on what you have seen. Its that simple. Let me show you how it is done.

1. Aish has demonstrated a high level of performance in the SANFL as an under age player from 16 years of age.
2. Aish was considered the number one pick in the country for a large part of his under 18 season before falling in the draft to the Lions.
3. Aish performed very well in his first season and finished 4th in Rising star award in a pretty poor team.
4. His video of under 18 and his first year of AFL demonstrate good hands off the deck and over head. Good skills and good pace.
5. He has been offered $450k per year for three years from the lions who are in a great position to know what his potential is. That other clubs are in the ball park signals they rate him also.
6. There are reasons he didn't play as well this year (injuries and other) that I won't delve into but suffice to say they won't prevent him becoming elite.

 

[Great 2008]

Is game time that important when you are getting pumped every week? You know you are desperate when you are willingly looking at being traded to the Lions.

I was thinking more along the lines of another big bodied mid getting between him and more game time.

 

[bris tarangau]

Because sitting at the Crows table and potentially winning the Brownlow after just saying you'll play elsewhere next year isn't the greatest look. Even on good terms, clubs (not the players mind you) can get a tad salty when you leave. Look at Gunston when he left Adelaide.

Or he could go fishing and not attend. Is that not a good look as well?

 

[Boo71]

You compared him to Rhys Palmer...

If you don't think Aish will be elite based on what you have seen please elaborate on what you have seen. Its that simple. Let me show you how it is done.

1. Aish has demonstrated a high level of performance in the SANFL as an under age player from 16 years of age.
2. Aish was considered the number one pick in the country for a large part of his under 18 season before falling in the draft to the Lions.
3. Aish performed very well in his first season and finished 4th in Rising star award in a pretty poor team.
4. His video of under 18 and his first year of AFL demonstrate good hands off the deck and over head. Good skills and good pace.
5. He has been offered $450k per year for three years from the lions who are in a great position to know what his potential is. That other clubs are in the ball park signals they rate him also.
6. There are reasons he didn't play as well this year (injuries and other) that I won't delve into but suffice to say they won't prevent him becoming elite.

Mate let it go. You are the one wrecking this thread, IMO.

 

[Glacier]

Hay , hay , hay .......don't go dragging me in on your little Tay ta Tay !!!





After all , I was just my opinion the the ruckman in question

Who got traded...

 

[Bumps"N"Grins]

You compared him to Rhys Palmer...

If you don't think Aish will be elite based on what you have seen please elaborate on what you have seen. Its that simple. Let me show you how it is done.

1. Aish has demonstrated a high level of performance in the SANFL as an under age player from 16 years of age.
2. Aish was considered the number one pick in the country for a large part of his under 18 season before falling in the draft to the Lions.
3. Aish performed very well in his first season and finished 4th in Rising star award in a pretty poor team.
4. His video of under 18 and his first year of AFL demonstrate good hands off the deck and over head. Good skills and good pace.
5. He has been offered $450k per year for three years from the lions who are in a great position to know what his potential is. That other clubs are in the ball park signals they rate him also.
6. There are reasons he didn't play as well this year (injuries and other) that I won't delve into but suffice to say they won't prevent him becoming elite.

So tempted to state that I don't rate him based on nothing at all, oops I just did!

 

[Great 2008]

Mate let it go. You are the one wrecking this thread, IMO.

You are a long way off.

 

[Glacier]

1. Aish has demonstrated a high level of performance in the SANFL as an under age player from 16 years of age.

I was considered the same as a jnr in VIC, so what

2. Aish was considered the number one pick in the country for a large part of his under 18 season before falling in the draft to the Lions.

Draft order means squat- ask Richard Tambling

3. Aish performed very well in his first season and finished 4th in Rising star award in a pretty poor team.

So?

4. His video of under 18 and his first year of AFL demonstrate good hands off the deck and over head. Good skills and good pace.

So do alot of other players who dont become elite

5. He has been offered $450k per year for three years from the lions who are in a great position to know what his potential is. That other clubs are in the ball park signals they rate him also.

So you want to pay him 450k a year to join us?

6. There are reasons he didn't play as well this year (injuries and other) that I won't delve into but suffice to say they won't prevent him becoming elite

He is along way from Elite, maybe our understanding of the word elite is quite different

 

[Bumps"N"Grins]

Mate let it go. You are the one wrecking this thread, IMO.

I agree but you will need some facts to back up your opinion or they won't let it go, just saying.

 

[Davo23]

Aish is a dud.

There, I said it so it's true!

 

[Brishawk]

Draft order means squat- ask Richard Tambling

blah blah blah

I think you will find draft order does correlate with likelihood of success although of course there are exceptions. Why do you think Aish will be an exception?