List Mgmt. 2016 GFC National Draft & DFA Thread-please see Mod Announcement Page 50 post #1228

[Pure_Ownage]

It say Goalsneak and a tall defender who can use the ball well.. does anyone want who uses the ball badly? ... I guess it depends on how you envision goalsneak. Id agree with Shai Bolton being of interest , and the general need for someone who can create and kick goals is fair. Its written by Peter Ryan , who is on GFC site isn't he? For what its worth id say our needs are more in tune with your comments.

Peter Ryan is an old and very respected afl journalist but he doesn't work for our site, you are probably confusing him with Adam McNicol who used to work for the afl site and now works for the GFC media department.

On the goalsneak thing I have a reason for a no vote. I think Menzel McCarthy and Gregson are all clearly best 22 and very talented but none of them will play midfield the latter two because they are too small and Menzel partly because he is so dangerous inside 50 (a sort of guy who can have 6 touches and kick 5 goals with them) but also we would be mad to put him in a role that requires him to cover more ground and have more physical fatigue as it would risk his knees more. So you have 3 players out of a forwards group of 6 or 7 who cant give you midfield rotations, in a capped interchange era I don't think you can have more than that. The top teams currently rather than having a heap of small forwards have mainly midfielders resting forward who impact while there as it gives them a deeper midfield group. So unless we are looking at trading one of those 3 or we think Menzel won't hold up I see no need to draft a permanent small fwd. If on the other hand you are talking about us needing a quality outside mid who can receive the ball from dangerwood and deliver it inside 50 with good footskills and can then be dangerous when resting fwd then absolutely we need that as we don't have a lot of that type and that is what Motlop is (when he is fit enough and working hard enough) but we are yet to know if he will stay beyond next year. But thats different to a small fwd imo.

As for the KPD's we have a deep group and even kif you go with the argument that Lonergan and Taylor are old (although Taylor is contracted for another 2 years) so we shouldn't 'count' them we still have Henderson and Kolo and I quite rate Gardner so that's at least 3 who have at least another 5 years in them. And should we need more now or later it's not that hard to get them with late picks after all we got Kolo for a 3rd rounder which we traded Trent West for. I would have thought using an early pick on a key forward this year where we have less in the way of quality options, is much more of a need for us.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

Gallucci won't go past 15, sadly for (us)me. Almost certainly.

It's a pretty open draft outside the top 10 this year the next 10-35 group is very broad and even and a lot of players in it could jump or slide a fair bit so I wouldn't lock him in for top 15.

 

[Vdubs]

Peter Ryan is an old and very respected afl journalist but he doesn't work for our site, you are probably confusing him with Adam McNicol who used to work for the afl site and now works for the GFC media department.

On the goalsneak thing I have a reason for a no vote. I think Menzel McCarthy and Gregson are all clearly best 22 and very talented but none of them will play midfield the latter two because they are too small and Menzel partly because he is so dangerous inside 50 (a sort of guy who can have 6 touches and kick 5 goals with them) but also we would be mad to put him in a role that requires him to cover more ground and have more physical fatigue as it would risk his knees more. So you have 3 players out of a forwards group of 6 or 7 who cant give you midfield rotations, in a capped interchange era I don't think you can have more than that. The top teams currently rather than having a heap of small forwards have mainly midfielders resting forward who impact while there as it gives them a deeper midfield group. So unless we are looking at trading one of those 3 or we think Menzel won't hold up I see no need to draft a permanent small fwd. If on the other hand you are talking about us needing a quality outside mid who can receive the ball from dangerwood and deliver it inside 50 with good footskills and can then be dangerous when resting fwd then absolutely we need that as we don't have a lot of that type and that is what Motlop is (when he is fit enough and working hard enough) but we are yet to know if he will stay beyond next year. But thats different to a small fwd imo.

As for the KPD's we have a deep group and even kif you go with the argument that Lonergan and Taylor are old (although Taylor is contracted for another 2 years) so we shouldn't 'count' them we still have Henderson and Kolo and I quite rate Gardner so that's at least 3 who have at least another 5 years in them. And should we need more now or later it's not that hard to get them with late picks after all we got Kolo for a 3rd rounder which we traded Trent West for. I would have thought using an early pick on a key forward this year where we have less in the way of quality options, is much more of a need for us.

Where do you see LANG playing his best footy for us?
And do you se any future for Murdoch with us and where?

 

[Turbocat]

Peter Ryan is an old and very respected afl journalist but he doesn't work for our site, you are probably confusing him with Adam McNicol who used to work for the afl site and now works for the GFC media department.

Pure.. Im not confusing the two. Ryan was a regular on the Podcats... for eg.

the annoying "Rynoooo" at the start of the broadcast was hard to confuse. Yes he is an AFL media journo but he was a participant on our site...

 

[Vdubs]

Any interest or chance with this Falcon? SEAN DARCY
We need depth in ruck stocks, and this player has some Mummy about him.
Not a lot spoken about him??
http://www.krockfootball.com.au/tac-cup/falcons-burst-sink-knights/

 

[Turbocat]

On the goalsneak thing I have a reason for a no vote. I think Menzel McCarthy and Gregson are all clearly best 22 and very talented but none of them will play midfield the latter two because they are too small and Menzel partly because he is so dangerous inside 50 (a sort of guy who can have 6 touches and kick 5 goals with them) but also we would be mad to put him in a role that requires him to cover more ground and have more physical fatigue as it would risk his knees more. So you have 3 players out of a forwards group of 6 or 7 who cant give you midfield rotations, in a capped interchange era I don't think you can have more than that. The top teams currently rather than having a heap of small forwards have mainly midfielders resting forward who impact while there as it gives them a deeper midfield group. So unless we are looking at trading one of those 3 or we think Menzel won't hold up I see no need to draft a permanent small fwd. If on the other hand you are talking about us needing a quality outside mid who can receive the ball from dangerwood and deliver it inside 50 with good footskills and can then be dangerous when resting fwd then absolutely we need that as we don't have a lot of that type and that is what Motlop is (when he is fit enough and working hard enough) but we are yet to know if he will stay beyond next year. But thats different to a small fwd imo.

I'll not get caught up in the goalsneak description. We do need players that can create goals.
I think the contribution of Menzel to our forward setup , ie.. goal creation is atm unique. We got by with SJ because Menzel covered him , yet very few of us would bet the farm that Menzel is lock for 25 games in 2017. Just how much will he be need to be managed. He is so talented we will live with that but we at a min look to draft options.

Linc at times showed he was on the way with this but still having him wouldn't preclude drafting another forward.

Im not sure on Gregson as a forward , he had a poor 2nd year. Having him on our list should not stifle any draft choice

I guess Menzel is not KPF but id not call him small , id be happy to draft someone his size for sure ,to me its not the size id like to add , its simply the goal nous. If he is also capable of being an outside mid..all the better.

 

[Turbocat]

I saw him play four games for Murray this year and during those, he played a majority of the time in defence.

Started up forward in the QF against Dandenong, but was beaten early by young Clavarino. Moved to defence in the second quarter and looked more comfortable.

Started in defence in the Preliminary Final against Oakleigh and stayed there for the entire game. Best performance I saw from him all year. Intercepted well and provided surprising rebound from D50. Rotated through a few different opponents with Garthwaite fixed on Kerr and impacted many aerial contests.

Started defence again in the GF against Sandringham but didn't have as big of a say with Garthwaite seemingly intercepting everything. Moved forward in the third quarter and had a immediate impact with an important goal, but missed two vital shots in the last.

Played a large percentage of the game back in the game I saw earlier in the year too.

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Greta info , thanks for that.

 

[Turbocat]

Any interest or chance with this Falcon? SEAN DARCY
We need depth in ruck stocks, and this layer has some Mummy about him.
Not a lot spoken about him??
http://www.krockfootball.com.au/tac-cup/falcons-burst-sink-knights/

I think I mentioned his high light package on the Footy Machine is a very good demonstration of a young tap ruckman. The question would be if he is up to the athletic demands of the AFL game. Certainly Mummy in shape

 

[Lana]

Peter Ryan is an old and very respected afl journalist but he doesn't work for our site, you are probably confusing him with Adam McNicol who used to work for the afl site and now works for the GFC media department.

On the goalsneak thing I have a reason for a no vote. I think Menzel McCarthy and Gregson are all clearly best 22 and very talented but none of them will play midfield the latter two because they are too small and Menzel partly because he is so dangerous inside 50 (a sort of guy who can have 6 touches and kick 5 goals with them) but also we would be mad to put him in a role that requires him to cover more ground and have more physical fatigue as it would risk his knees more. So you have 3 players out of a forwards group of 6 or 7 who cant give you midfield rotations, in a capped interchange era I don't think you can have more than that. The top teams currently rather than having a heap of small forwards have mainly midfielders resting forward who impact while there as it gives them a deeper midfield group. So unless we are looking at trading one of those 3 or we think Menzel won't hold up I see no need to draft a permanent small fwd. If on the other hand you are talking about us needing a quality outside mid who can receive the ball from dangerwood and deliver it inside 50 with good footskills and can then be dangerous when resting fwd then absolutely we need that as we don't have a lot of that type and that is what Motlop is (when he is fit enough and working hard enough) but we are yet to know if he will stay beyond next year. But thats different to a small fwd imo.

As for the KPD's we have a deep group and even kif you go with the argument that Lonergan and Taylor are old (although Taylor is contracted for another 2 years) so we shouldn't 'count' them we still have Henderson and Kolo and I quite rate Gardner so that's at least 3 who have at least another 5 years in them. And should we need more now or later it's not that hard to get them with late picks after all we got Kolo for a 3rd rounder which we traded Trent West for. I would have thought using an early pick on a key forward this year where we have less in the way of quality options, is much more of a need for us.

I believe McCarthy will be able to join the midfield rotations at some point in his career like Chapman did, he just needs to build up his tank. Gregson won't be an inside mid but I expect him to move onto the wing full time at some point in the future. I'd don't think that being a specialist small forward suits Gregson's natural game (he is an acceptable crumber rather than a good one). He'll get close to a goal a game if he plays the role but he is great when he can run in open space.

I don't think we'll go for a KPF this year with our first as none of the guys who'd be available at the pick are particularly must have prospects and with KPF there is such a fine line between serviceable and useless. There are plenty of great KPDs but we don't really need one. Getting a specialist inside mid would be a waste.

I'd go for either a tall athletic flanker or a specialist medium or small forward.

 

[Vdubs]

I believe McCarthy will be able to join the midfield rotations at some point in his career like Chapman did, he just needs to build up his tank. Gregson won't be an inside mid but I expect him to move onto the wing full time at some point in the future. I'd don't think that being a specialist small forward suits Gregson's natural game (he is an acceptable crumber rather than a good one). He'll get close to a goal a game if he plays the role but he is great when he can run in open space.

I don't think we'll go for a KPF this year with our first as none of the guys who'd be available at the pick are particularly must have prospects and with KPF there is such a fine line between serviceable and useless. There are plenty of great KPDs but we don't really need one. Getting a specialist inside mid would be a waste.

I'd go for either a tall athletic flanker or a specialist medium or small forward.

Would have to be the latter as Parsons will fill that void perfectly. Just needs a promotion.

 

[Lana]

Would have to be the latter as Parsons will fill that void perfectly. Just needs a promotion.

You can never have too many athletic flankers, it is less a void and more an opportunity.

 

[Vdubs]

You can never have too many athletic flankers, it is less a void and more an opportunity.

We are not getting games into Murdoch, and he is on our list.
Then we have to get the recruit up to standard, but your point is right.

 

[ShaunWDT]

Any interest or chance with this Falcon? SEAN DARCY
We need depth in ruck stocks, and this player has some Mummy about him.
Not a lot spoken about him??
http://www.krockfootball.com.au/tac-cup/falcons-burst-sink-knights/

He's a bit of a spud to be honest, uncoordinated and doesn't get involved in the play.

 

[Stan The Caddy]

I just had a look at Battle's highlights. If we're to take a KPF in this draft he'd be the one IMO.

 

[dazbroncos]

He's a bit of a spud to be honest, uncoordinated and doesn't get involved in the play.

A young Dawson Simpson then?

Go Catters

 

[Pure_Ownage]

Pure.. Im not confusing the two. Ryan was a regular on the Podcats... for eg.
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the annoying "Rynoooo" at the start of the broadcast was hard to confuse. Yes he is an AFL media journo but he was a participant on our site...

I know he has been on the podcast I was just pointing out he doesnt work for us and isn't one of the 'inside info' journalists when it comes to Geelong stuff like McNicol and Gullan so while his writing is good it doesn't mean that's what we will draft.

I'll not get caught up in the goalsneak description. We do need players that can create goals.
I think the contribution of Menzel to our forward setup , ie.. goal creation is atm unique. We got by with SJ because Menzel covered him , yet very few of us would bet the farm that Menzel is lock for 25 games in 2017. Just how much will he be need to be managed. He is so talented we will live with that but we at a min look to draft options.

Linc at times showed he was on the way with this but still having him wouldn't preclude drafting another forward.

Im not sure on Gregson as a forward , he had a poor 2nd year. Having him on our list should not stifle any draft choice

I guess Menzel is not KPF but id not call him small , id be happy to draft someone his size for sure ,to me its not the size id like to add , its simply the goal nous. If he is also capable of being an outside mid..all the better.

I do agree we can't bank on Menzel given his injury history he is clearly best 22 but we need some depth beyond him in case he isn't available. I think Gregson is a very good player and while his injury this year was unfortunate his first uear indicates to me he will be best 22 with a good run at it.

My point was more with a capped interchange there is a limit to how many specialist forwards you can have in a 22 who don't play any midfield especially when you have 4 key defenders at the other end which means you are one small rotation down before you start.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

Where do you see LANG playing his best footy for us?
And do you se any future for Murdoch with us and where?

Lang is a big chance of filling Caddy's spot as he can provide a fwd and mid rotation. He has played well at afl level as a fwd in terms of scoreboard impact but I would like to see us get him really fit and try and use him as more of a wingman or outside mid who gets the ball and delivers it by foot to the forwards. He does have a turn of speed and I saw a couple of vfl games later in the year where he burst out of the middle and hit a leading forward, he isn't consistent enough at it yet but I think he can develop into it.

Murdoch is a decent player and has actually played pretty well at afl level before, my issue with him is what I raised with vdubs in that you can only play so many front half players who don't play midfield before it hurts your second tier rotations too much. Ideally he would play on a wing and give us run through there but I don't think he has the spatial awareness for it. He is a decent defensive fwd but he will be in competition with guys like Lang Gregson etc to fit in the fwd line. Given the depth we have lost he will get games but I doubt he will be a first choice best 22 player.

Any interest or chance with this Falcon? SEAN DARCY
We need depth in ruck stocks, and this player has some Mummy about him.
Not a lot spoken about him??
http://www.krockfootball.com.au/tac-cup/falcons-burst-sink-knights/

Reminds me too much of Dawson Simpson in terms of lacking mobility and I think the game is going away from that sort of ruck. Is clearly a high character kid but I don't think that on it's own will get him drafted.

I believe McCarthy will be able to join the midfield rotations at some point in his career like Chapman did, he just needs to build up his tank. Gregson won't be an inside mid but I expect him to move onto the wing full time at some point in the future. I'd don't think that being a specialist small forward suits Gregson's natural game (he is an acceptable crumber rather than a good one). He'll get close to a goal a game if he plays the role but he is great when he can run in open space.

I don't think we'll go for a KPF this year with our first as none of the guys who'd be available at the pick are particularly must have prospects and with KPF there is such a fine line between serviceable and useless. There are plenty of great KPDs but we don't really need one. Getting a specialist inside mid would be a waste.

I'd go for either a tall athletic flanker or a specialist medium or small forward.

I think both McCarthy and Gregson are good enough to play up field the issue is both are coming from a fair way back fitness wise so I doubt they have that endurance in the short term. The longer term issue is unless it's purely an outside role only (think the role Smith and Hill play/ed at Hawthorn) we would need to bulk them both up a bit strength wise for them to play midfield and given the history both have of foot injuries I would be very wary doing that. So I think both will stay front half 22 players.

The KPF I suppose depends on who you think will be available and how you rate them. For example I think Battle might be available and I really rate him as an afl standard player. I would also point out that serviceable isn't bad if you have the cattle to work around it. The Dogs just played Ayce Cordy at CHF in a flag side and he is barely serviceable and they would have played Redpath instead if he was fit and he is only just servicable. Had any of Walker/Kersten/Vardy bothered to stay there is a fair chance any of them would be our starting CHF next year and be more serviceable than Black/Taylor/Hendo or whatever we do use. So long as you have a second KPF who competes well enough and has the endurance to do it you can work a structure around it.

I agree that getting an inside mid or KPD with our first pick would be a waste, obviously once you get to the 50s/60s if there's a guy there who the talent is too good to pass up you take him but early on you don't. My issue with taking a small fwd with our first pick is that apart from the fact I doubt we will have a spot for one in the side anytime soon you can routinely get good small fwds late/rookie as recruiters discriminate against short guys so it's a tactical waste taking one early. I don't mind a tall flanker (for example guys like Witherden or Ridley are what I am thinking of) if they are good players as it gives us some flexibility as to where to play them and the structure of the side.

 

[Lana]

I think both McCarthy and Gregson are good enough to play up field the issue is both are coming from a fair way back fitness wise so I doubt they have that endurance in the short term. The longer term issue is unless it's purely an outside role only (think the role Smith and Hill play/ed at Hawthorn) we would need to bulk them both up a bit strength wise for them to play midfield and given the history both have of foot injuries I would be very wary doing that. So I think both will stay front half 22 players.

It's fine if they're not able to do it in the short term, any guy we draft should do an apprenticeship in the VFL anyway. McCarthy will be closer to rotating into the middle then you'd think. Caddy leaving will speed up the process, for me the main driving factor is the opporunity in rotations. It's impossible to tell with Gregson given the nature of his injury but with each pre-season he has the further he'll play up the ground

The KPF I suppose depends on who you think will be available and how you rate them. For example I think Battle might be available and I really rate him as an afl standard player. I would also point out that serviceable isn't bad if you have the cattle to work around it. The Dogs just played Ayce Cordy at CHF in a flag side and he is barely serviceable and they would have played Redpath instead if he was fit and he is only just servicable. Had any of Walker/Kersten/Vardy bothered to stay there is a fair chance any of them would be our starting CHF next year and be more serviceable than Black/Taylor/Hendo or whatever we do use. So long as you have a second KPF who competes well enough and has the endurance to do it you can work a structure around it.

What works for them won't necessarily work for us. I wouldn't be drafting a KPF with an early pick unless I was confident we could build a team around them. If we want serviceable prospect we can draft one with a later pick.

I agree that getting an inside mid or KPD with our first pick would be a waste, obviously once you get to the 50s/60s if there's a guy there who the talent is too good to pass up you take him but early on you don't. My issue with taking a small fwd with our first pick is that apart from the fact I doubt we will have a spot for one in the side anytime soon you can routinely get good small fwds late/rookie as recruiters discriminate against short guys so it's a tactical waste taking one early. I don't mind a tall flanker (for example guys like Witherden or Ridley are what I am thinking of) if they are good players as it gives us some flexibility as to where to play them and the structure of the side.

Just because you can get a small with a later pick doesn't mean that the strike rate of getting a small in the rookie draft is good. If there is a smaller prospect that ticks enough of the right attributes I'd have no issue drafting one with an earlier pick. I will say that there are a decent number of smaller forward options that will last until later in the draft. But I'd be inclined to grab both.

 

[Turbocat]

A young Dawson Simpson then?

Go Catters

Not the player I think when watching him.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

It's fine if they're not able to do it in the short term, any guy we draft should do an apprenticeship in the VFL anyway. McCarthy will be closer to rotating into the middle then you'd think. Caddy leaving will speed up the process, for me the main driving factor is the opporunity in rotations. It's impossible to tell with Gregson given the nature of his injury but with each pre-season he has the further he'll play up the ground

TBH the only thing I think Caddy leaving will speed up the development of is Cockatoo who will take that spot and now play 22 games next year. I don't think it will impact guys like McCarthy/Gregson much as they play very different roles. I agree you always look long term but it depends on the time horizon for example Kolo will be in his 4th year in 2017 and then fully take over from Lonners in 2018 whereas McCarthy and Gregson are very young and could easily have 8 years left, you wouldn't keep a player in the vfl that long if he is good so there is little point drafting a small forward unless he is a significant upgrade on what we have.

What works for them won't necessarily work for us. I wouldn't be drafting a KPF with an early pick unless I was confident we could build a team around them. If we want serviceable prospect we can draft one with a later pick.

The point I was more trying to make was with key forwards servicable is fine but non competitive or non existent isn't as KPF isn't a position you can readily throw 18yos in like you can with smalls. People keep saying they don't rate any of the KPF's in this draft as having elite quality but that's beside the point a bit so long as you can get someone serviceable then you can build a structure around that. And right now serviceable would be a win for us in an area where we don't have many decent options.

Just because you can get a small with a later pick doesn't mean that the strike rate of getting a small in the rookie draft is good. If there is a smaller prospect that ticks enough of the right attributes I'd have no issue drafting one with an earlier pick. I will say that there are a decent number of smaller forward options that will last until later in the draft. But I'd be inclined to grab both.

Those who know this draft better than me tend to say there are many good small fwd options so as late or rookie picks some should be there. But if you look at a lot of the good small forwards in the afl currently Betts (PSD selection) Breust (played for Sydney's reserves side and rookie listed by Hawthorn) Puopolo (pick 66) Charlie Cameron (rookie) Garlett (rookie) Thomas (pick 53) Walters (pick 53) Ballantyne (technically taken second round but as a 21yo so was previously overlooked by all clubs) McGlynn (rookie now retired) Papley (rookie) Zorko (prelisted trade with GC). Really if you exclude Smith and Greene up at GWS and Taylor at Brisbane there are not a whole of small forwards (as a pose to midfielders who rest forward) getting drafted with high picks, it tends to be that you have a fairly good chance of getting a good small forward with late picks if you want one.

 

[strauchnyy]

One player no one has spoken about is Kym LaBois. He is Michael Walters 2.0.

I think he'd be a player in 5 years who everyone will be like how did he slip to a R3. I would be happy if we used either 38 or 42 on him.

My preferences at this stage:

24: Witheredon/Marshall/Hayward/Florent - basically any of the rated players that falls to our pick. Please no more 'reaches' they have not worked well for us in the recent past. Do not want Battle/Kerr - Both look like busts to me.

38/42: Brennan Cox/Drew/LaBois/Scharenberg/Cedric Cox/Bolton

64+: Lipinski/Atley/Himmelberg/Rioli/Begley/Walker

 

[Pure_Ownage]

One player no one has spoken about is Kym LaBois. He is Michael Walters 2.0.

I think he'd be a player in 5 years who everyone will be like how did he slip to a R3. I would be happy if we used either 38 or 42 on him.

My preferences at this stage:

24: Witheredon/Marshall/Hayward/Florent - basically any of the rated players that falls to our pick. Please no more 'reaches' they have not worked well for us in the recent past. Do not want Battle/Kerr - Both look like busts to me.

38/42: Brennan Cox/Drew/LaBois/Scharenberg/Cedric Cox/Bolton

64+: Lipinski/Atley/Himmelberg/Rioli/Begley/Walker

LeBois is small and inconsistent with his performances in games and hasn't shown any midfield ability yet. I agree he has some really A grade attributes and so with the right development could do a Walters but I would be staggered if anyone takes him inside the top 40-50 picks.

Don't mind the rest, can't see Marshall getting past Port and it looks like Hayward is coming into 1st round contention now. I think Witherden is really up to Brisbane (and maybe Sydney at 19) there is no top 10 noise with him so he will be around in the teens and Brisbane have 3 picks between then and us, if they view him as a flight risk he probably gets to 24 (St Kilda have a heap of HBF's so I doubt they pick him) otherwise he doesn't.

What I am hoping for would be something like:
24- Marshall (if he gets through) if not him Battle (I rate him more than you but I get where you are coming from). If neither is available then I take the best available mid (so long as it's not a pure inside mid) or defender with good skills by foot. Ideally this would be someone like Florent or Venables getting through or Simpkin or Witherden (both pending medicals). If all are gone (as is likely) I don't mind Ridley, I am much more of a fan of Scharenberg than most but I can't see us trading Caddy to spend 24 on an inside mid. Luke Ryan is a Wells type pick but I think this is early for him.

38-if the first pick is a mid I would like to bid on Sproule here or I don't mind Brennan Cox. Otherwise I will second the Lipinski pick. Another name I will put out there that is getting little press is Myles Poholke-very well rounded player.

42-Probably needs to be Stewart unless we want to run the gauntlet with 64. If not hopefully Sam Walker.

64-Stewart if we haven't already taken him.

72-Sammy Simpson

Get me a decent ruck (not Darcy) and Timm House and Tom Atkins as rookies and I am happy.

 

[Turbocat]

One player no one has spoken about is Kym LaBois. He is Michael Walters 2.0.

I think he'd be a player in 5 years who everyone will be like how did he slip to a R3. I would be happy if we used either 38 or 42 on him.

My preferences at this stage:

24: Witheredon/Marshall/Hayward/Florent - basically any of the rated players that falls to our pick. Please no more 'reaches' they have not worked well for us in the recent past. Do not want Battle/Kerr - Both look like busts to me.

38/42: Brennan Cox/Drew/LaBois/Scharenberg/Cedric Cox/Bolton

64+: Lipinski/Atley/Himmelberg/Rioli/Begley/Walker

Out the p24 guys id say Marshall , Hayward and Florent will be gone. ..although no one ever knows for sure.
Witherden would be a solid add , although id be a little concerned about his pace.

 

[Turbocat]

LeBois is small and inconsistent with his performances in games and hasn't shown any midfield ability yet. I agree he has some really A grade attributes and so with the right development could do a Walters but I would be staggered if anyone takes him inside the top 40-50 picks.

Don't mind the rest, can't see Marshall getting past Port and it looks like Hayward is coming into 1st round contention now. I think Witherden is really up to Brisbane (and maybe Sydney at 19) there is no top 10 noise with him so he will be around in the teens and Brisbane have 3 picks between then and us, if they view him as a flight risk he probably gets to 24 (St Kilda have a heap of HBF's so I doubt they pick him) otherwise he doesn't.

What I am hoping for would be something like:
24- Marshall (if he gets through) if not him Battle (I rate him more than you but I get where you are coming from). If neither is available then I take the best available mid (so long as it's not a pure inside mid) or defender with good skills by foot. Ideally this would be someone like Florent or Venables getting through or Simpkin or Witherden (both pending medicals). If all are gone (as is likely) I don't mind Ridley, I am much more of a fan of Scharenberg than most but I can't see us trading Caddy to spend 24 on an inside mid. Luke Ryan is a Wells type pick but I think this is early for him.

38-if the first pick is a mid I would like to bid on Sproule here or I don't mind Brennan Cox. Otherwise I will second the Lipinski pick. Another name I will put out there that is getting little press is Myles Poholke-very well rounded player.

42-Probably needs to be Stewart unless we want to run the gauntlet with 64. If not hopefully Sam Walker.

64-Stewart if we haven't already taken him.

72-Sammy Simpson

Get me a decent ruck (not Darcy) and Timm House and Tom Atkins as rookies and I am happy.

Getting Marshall would be real bonus , but I doubt he gets to us. On a defender with good foot skills ..I wouldn't mind us calling Cumming at some stage... whether we get him who knows...certainly a bit early at 24.

 

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One player no one has spoken about is Kym LaBois. He is Michael Walters 2.0.

Has some great highlights. But I wouldn't grab him until our last live pick in the national draft at the earliest.