Depends what picks they strip from them. From what I've seen in the media, it seems they'll keep their first rounder and lose their other picks. Not sure what that means for their academy players - they might be able to go into a deficit to match bids still.
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Depends what picks they strip from them. From what I've seen in the media, it seems they'll keep their first rounder and lose their other picks. Not sure what that means for their academy players - they might be able to go into a deficit to match bids still.
I think Logue is grossly overrated, but I do think he'll go in the first round. I don't think Marshall, Berry or Battle are first round certainties. There's even been talk of Will Brodie sliding but he'll be first round still. Then there's the bolters in Hayward, Ridley, C.Cox among others that need to fit in also.
Bottom line is there is no need to reach this year. It's very likely a player GFC rates in their top 15-20 will be available at our first pick. FWIW, I want Ridley.
Worth pick in 70's no less
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Liam ryan (wa) had an awful beep test that raises commitment issues for me-doubt he gets drafted by a non wa team.
Dont mind ridley at all though.
I am aware of his poor beep test. Which is why I think he'll be available late in the draft. On the other hand kicking 2.5 goals a game at WAFL level with next to no tank is quite impressive and could suggest that he has a high degree of upside.
I have no knowledge of his personality or commitment and I'm not sure if he did a pre-season with Subiaco. The state combines can also throw up some screwy results given that they condense most of the combines testing into a single day.
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Bloody AFL, just admit they have made a decision on penalties for the Giants but cant announce it on a day that they announce 2 new Brownlow Medallists.
Are they just going to leave their baby out to dry for a bit, of course they already know their punishment, they are 10 days out from the draft, the AFL take us all for idiots, just give us the facts.
Lets just string the 2016 season out for as much as we can, having a Brownlow presentation for 2012 in December 2016 just to stay relevant. Give it a spell, have a holiday and stop sticking this crap, under our noses every waking moment of the day. 2016 season over as far as most are concerned.
Obviously the AFL (management) is business oriented far more than sports related, this means they will please the favored 'public opinion'.
I do not like it but it is what is seen as 'now', will only become more so in the future.
Take a look @ contracts, they don't mean so much any more, right.?
Suck it up and compensate IF it is good for the game (AFL) overall, or be risk being left in the Dark Ages.
I like that you've included Hinge in your scope. Another Sacred Heart boy, and he's gone under the radar this year.
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less or more? I presume you mean no earlier? Why? Id say he represents a good value from R3 on...
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I think the Dark ages are a more attractive prospect for the common supporter, but you're right on the money, we just have to suck it up because in 50 years time the game will be unrecognisable from todays game. I for one will hope and pray that suburban footy stays relatively untouched but the power of the $$$$$$ means I will be watching 2007, 09,11 re runs on my weekends.!!
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I like Ridley. Do you see him as more of a defender or a forward?
Just on Ryan, he's clearly an exceptional talent so if we don't draft a small early I'd be more than happy to take a risk on him with a late selection. We'd be drafting him with a view to the medium term in any case so rather than worrying about what his beep test result is I'd be more interested to find out exactly how determined he is to make a career for himself at AFL level. His interview along with interviewing people that are closest to him will tell us much more than any beep test result can.
The devil is always in the detail...
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Pick 38/42/64 i reckon. I will be filthy if another club takes him.
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For those interested brett anderson of inside footy has done his 26-50 draft prospects
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2016/11/14/top-50-prospects-for-2016-afl-draft-26-50/
1-25 to be up later in the week.
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2016/11/14/top-50-prospects-for-2016-afl-draft-26-50/
1-25 to be up later in the week.
Who are you talking about?
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https://www.google.com.au/amp/s/amp...s/news-story/29bca498a64b865bd4d316498f849466
is a good article on ryan. On one hand i am a fan of schofield who was menegolas coach on the other hand his comments about adapting to city life and pressures worries me re ryan. Can play but i reckon he wont go before where shane yarran went last year which was the 60s.
Get ready to muddy up. Im sure you'd know , its a bugbear of mine. If we cant have an academy the least they could do is allow a bidding type situation for us to claim him at a par value.
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Tom stewart.
You're keener than me on him. I'd wait until at least 64. I have a number of players that if still available even then I'd take in front.
I just wish we had at least another pick in the early 20's.
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I think he is a really good fit for us actually. If the bidding system applied we would know exactly what we need to give up but i would go 2nd/3rd round if needs be.
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Agree as i said in another post its rubbish that clubs cant nominate their vfl players in bidding like academy selections. The majority of these players nominated for the draft as u18s and were passed on by all clubs who years later find them attractive to pick because they have been developed by another club and are plug and play.
Intriguing draft this one. We may and probably will see some quality and highly rated kids drop to our second and third picks. The more you look at it, it is just so even after the first half a dozen or so guns. Scope for further development could quite easily see a kid taken in the 40's or lower have a better career than one taken much earlier to a much greater extent in this draft than I've seen in others.
Whilst I agree that Stewart is a decent fit, I wonder where his ceiling is in relation to many of the kids that may be taken around him?
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I think there are always good sliders in every draft but as this draft is so even after the first 5 there might be more than usual as clubs rate different players differently.
On stewart having seen him and ruggles i think stewart is clearly better (and i rate ruggles). How much better is what the club will have to weigh up in him vs other players available at our picks as unlike ruggles he is unlikely to last to our last pick in the rookie draft.
Thats always debatable when taking a more mature player whether he be 18 or 25. Do we pick on who has the biggest upside or who can perform in good timely fashion? The discussion on Liam Ryan earlier is an example of a players who would appear to have more to give..how long will it take to get him to that. Ruggles upside may be limited than other players but he basically came in and played from day 1 , and I suspect he will still improve a bit.
It was this sort of logic that saw Pods ignored for years.I see Stewart as potentially a better player than Ruggles , will he better than a Sam Walker/ Jordan Ridley is harder to gauge but it will take time for them to be ready to get to where Stewart is. He could do what Ruggles did imo.
The only question is worth. Ruggles was a late pick Rookie. Just what is Stewart worth?Just where do you pull the trigger.
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