Mega Thread 2016 Media Thread

[wayToGo_]

To go from minor premier to spoon contender is a decent way of attracting attention. Our sponsors must be stoked.

At least we are always in the headlines I don't think the sponsors would care that much.

 

[blue shark]

Everybody can put the boots in this year, I really don't care as long as we are heading in the right direction. Short term pain I can handle,
but next year is a totally different scenario.
I also don't think chasing established players form other clubs is worth the effort, we must be cunning, and identity the moneyball players,
with upside, that would move for more opportunity, coin.
We have bottomed out, and honestly it feels a bit by design, having some low end picks, getting McCarthy, grabbing a few plug and play types,
plus we do have exciting youth, totally different to the Connolly years downward spiral.

 

[Caldera]

I don't think any journalists are really sinking the boots in. There is a lot of interest out there on how it has come to this, some asking the right questions and some asking the wrong questions. But in this day and age where there is more sports reporting than ever (despite cuts to the media), a story like this will always garner interest.

 

[Purpletown]

Everybody can put the boots in this year, I really don't care as long as we are heading in the right direction. Short term pain I can handle,
but next year is a totally different scenario.
I also don't think chasing established players form other clubs is worth the effort, we must be cunning, and identity the moneyball players,
with upside, that would move for more opportunity, coin.
We have bottomed out, and honestly it feels a bit by design, having some low end picks, getting McCarthy, grabbing a few plug and play types,
plus we do have exciting youth, totally different to the Connolly years downward spiral.

Agree with all you say blue shark and you have hit the nail on the head with your comment about chasing established players from other clubs.

It would be negligent of Freo not to make some reasonable effort to see if we could land established players but we absolutely must prioritise a draft plan while we are down to get in via the draft some decent players of the type we have been trying to entice to the club for years and not live in the hope we can fix it up some time in the future.

In hindsight there seems to have been an expectation we would land one of these sought after key forwards/backs "next year" for quite a few years now when the reality is they seem to stay put 90% of the time and very few will move interstate. They are not worth busting the bank on either as the T. Cloak saga has shown as we would be tearing our hair out now if he was playing for Freo.

 

[balthazarthedonk]

Rather pessimistic http://www.theguardian.com/sport/20...es-afl-malaise-could-stretch-well-beyond-2016

Meh. It's Russell Jackson. Find me anything he has ever written positive about Freo. I stopped reading his articles a while ago.

That's not to say there aren't obvious problems at the club. But blaming the coach for all of them (while saying in the CIF that he was trying to be fair) is par for the course.

 

[yakka man]

Colour me not surprised.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-04-...m=feed&utm_campaign=RSS+feed:+AFL+Latest+News

WEST Coast's high performance manager Glenn Stewart has revealed that three Eagles players brought him imported supplements that contained banned substances within the last three years.

Stewart was speaking at a University of Western Australia public forum on Wednesday night in front of over 200 people that covered a wide range of topics including the Essendon supplements saga.

Stewart said he had the substances tested at a lab at Curtin University to avoid a repeat of the issues that the Essendon players had faced during the supplements saga.

"Three players brought me supplements I had tested at a lab at Curtin University," Stewart said.

"They had come from the USA and the lab found they contained banned substances. The problem is that every test costs $995.

 

[Grandstan]

I don't think any journalists are really sinking the boots in. There is a lot of interest out there on how it has come to this, some asking the right questions and some asking the wrong questions. But in this day and age where there is more sports reporting than ever (despite cuts to the media), a story like this will always garner interest.

I agree with the principal, but I think there is more to it. There really are a lot of media figures who seem to genuinely dislike Lyon and/or the congested style of play associated with him. There are also a few who like him.

 

[Nodgey]

'Oh boy! Wowee! Can Brad Johnson share next week's Tatts numbers with us?!??'

'Har Har! The man's a geeeeeenius! Who'd have thought it!'

Give me a break FFS

 

[Caldera]

I agree with the principal, but I think there is more to it. There really are a lot of media figures who seem to genuinely dislike Lyon and/or the congested style of play associated with him. There are also a few who like him.

I think maybe a few years ago this would hold more water. When he left St Kilda the knives were out from a few journalists that felt betrayed by a lack of a scoop, but since then there has been largely respect for a coach bringing a consistent winning pedigree to a previously famously unpredictable team. This year I think they are genuinely baffled.

Your average footy fan (and by extension non-Freo fans) will certainly drag up the defensive game plan/no kids/can't win a premiership argument, but I'm yet to see a media vs malthouse critical element being evident.

 

[Mr Peabody]

Interesting read.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-04-29/lyons-says-dockers-are-not-going-to-rebuild
The analysis has been that he has to move on senior players and play kids, something he had been criticised for not doing in the past. He has played more kids than Hawthorn. Since 2013 the Dockers have played seven draftees for a total of 32 games. In the same time the Hawks have played four draftees for a total of 47 games. One player, Billy Hartung, has played 32 of those. Tommy Sheridan, Hayden Crozier, Lachie Neale and Sutcliffe were four of the Dockers' five picks in the 2011 NAB AFL Draft. Bradley Hill was the only Hawk from the 2011 draft who played in the 2013 Grand Final and the only 2011 draftee currently playing at the Hawks. But it is clear other teams have drafted and developed better kicks than the Dockers to this point. Drafting and trading for better kicks is one thing, but teaching players to become better kicks and decision-makers under pressure is more important. That is Lyon's next challenge.

Making players accountable for poor skills is now in sharp focus due to the win loss ratio. The same thing masked those issues in the past resulting in less coaching emphasis and accountability on skills. The game may have changed which has magnified and exposed a problem, but the problem has been there for a long time.

 

[Mr Peabody]

RTB summoned to a Board meeting on Tuesday night last it seems...

https://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/sport/afl/a/31476481/lyon-the-right-coach-to-rebuild-freo-chief/

“Ross is of the view that if we hadn’t had made the changes to our successful game plan we could be in the position of being 2-3 or 3-2 at this point, but it was felt by him and the coaching team that we needed to make some tweaks and to continue the focus on improvement and new styles was important for the longer term and we support that,” he said.

 

[Grandstan]

I think maybe a few years ago this would hold more water. When he left St Kilda the knives were out from a few journalists that felt betrayed by a lack of a scoop, but since then there has been largely respect for a coach bringing a consistent winning pedigree to a previously famously unpredictable team. This year I think they are genuinely baffled.

Your average footy fan (and by extension non-Freo fans) will certainly drag up the defensive game plan/no kids/can't win a premiership argument, but I'm yet to see a media vs malthouse critical element being evident.

You don't want me to start posting every reference I've seen to Lyon as a pantomime villain that has been printed in the past month by journos relishing his failure to transition from a defensive to attacking strategy but here's one of the more creative, examples:

1. Prince was an innovator and by that we don't mean he glorified negativity or made Zac Dawson a 150-game player...
...
6. Ross Lyon, who's still sticking to the process and backing his systems and his role players but if the Dockers lose to Carlton on Sunday arvo his purple reign could be over and at least something heart-warming will have happened in the week we lost Prince.

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-ne...le-youtubing-purple-rain-20160422-gocmih.html

 

[T0ecutter]

RTB summoned to a Board meeting on Tuesday night last it seems...

https://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/sport/afl/a/31476481/lyon-the-right-coach-to-rebuild-freo-chief/

What a useless article. No-one is going to agree to 0-6 start as a justification for 'tweaks' in game plan unless they are trying to avoid getting the blame.

 

[PurpleReign95]

New media: Try a podcast
Myself and long time dockers fan Andrew Oz have been working on a dockers podcast for the past 11 weeks.
Each week we review the game, talk about next weeks game and try to figure out what past players are up to now. So if you like podcast and you love the dockers this is the thing for you
Either click on the links below or just search The Purple Reign in the podcast app on your iPhone
http://www.podcastgarden.com/epi…/round-6-freo-v-crows_77096 ...
or
https://itunes.apple.com/…/p…/the-purple-reign/id1086537671…

The latest ep has just been uploaded!

 

[beetz]

RTB summoned to a Board meeting on Tuesday night last it seems...

https://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/sport/afl/a/31476481/lyon-the-right-coach-to-rebuild-freo-chief/

“Ross is of the view that if we hadn’t had made the changes to our successful game plan we could be in the position of being 2-3 or 3-2 at this point, but it was felt by him and the coaching team that we needed to make some tweaks and to continue the focus on improvement and new styles was important for the longer term and we support that,” he said.

Didn't like this bit: "Rosich also said:The club retained confidence in football manager Chris Bond and list manager Brad Lloyd in the face of criticism of recruiting and trading results."

 

[sij1981]

Loved it when RTB said "Everyday I wake up and I see opportunities"

 

[punkdocker]

Thank goodness for the Tigers eh? Sat through an excruciating bit of footy classified last night, only to hear Freo were galant in their effort against crows.

 

[Caldera]

Thank goodness for the Tigers eh? Sat through an excruciating bit of footy classified last night, only to hear Freo were galant in their effort against crows.

I hear you - I stayed up for that rubbish as well. Freo, gallant and now irrelevant in the media stakes. Good.

 

[Freoforever86]

Damien Barrett with some ground breaking stuff in sliding doors for Freo this week.

Nothing else he could think of? Moron

 

[Lach72]

And what was that?

 

[Unique Name]

And what was that?

 

[Freoforever86]

View attachment 243662

Trying to create something out of nothing in guessung

 

[Allikat]

View attachment 243662

I preferred my response to him:
@AFL if @barrettdamian was to walk away from footy THEN the quality of footy journalism could only increase #flog


It's not the first time he's mentioned Pav retiring early either. But look at the facts. Pav chose to play on this year. He's playing good footy. His body's holding up well. The 350 game mark is super close. And the team's in a position, and with injuries where his leadership on & off field is absolutely invaluable.

If Pav decided to walk away from footy early for no other reason than the team being shit, well I personally would lose a little bit of respect for him.

 

[Schauermann]

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-05-06/the-round-seven-bogeymen-who-will-haunt-your-side-this-week

So Mumford has been GWS best when playing Freo the last 5 times? Actually we played them only 4 times and Mumford only played us once in GWS colours.

And Hill only played them twice, so not the best sample size, even when he is averaging 27 and 1 Brownlow vote...

 

[scon]

vote..

Spoilsport