List Mgmt. 2016 Trade & Free Agency Discussion Thread [v. 1.0]

[Outlaw]

Does the trade period open the day of the Syd Barker count?


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[Tas]

GWS seemed to do ok with it.

We aren't going to get 40 top 10 picks.

 

[jclei]

Does the trade period open the day of the Syd Barker count?

When does the 2016 NAB AFL free agency and trade period start and finish?
Here are the indicative key dates for this year's exchange period:

Friday October 7 - NAB AFL restricted free agency offer and unrestricted free agency period begins

Monday October 10, 10am* - NAB AFL Trade Period begins

Sunday October 16, 5pm - Close of NAB AFL restricted free agency offer and unrestricted free agency period

Wednesday October 19 - NAB AFL restricted free agency matching offer three-day period ends

Thursday October 20, 2pm – NAB AFL Trade Period closes

How else can players switch clubs?
Delisted players become free agents and can join new clubs during any of the three NAB AFL delisted player free agency windows.

Once clubs have delisted a player, they will receive no compensation should that player be signed by a new club.

The key dates for delisted free agents are as follows:

Tuesday November 1 - NAB AFL delisted player free agency period (1) begins

Tuesday November 8 - NAB AFL delisted player free agency period (1) closes

Thursday November 10 - NAB AFL delisted player free agency period (2) begins

Friday November 18 - NAB AFL delisted player free agency period (2) closes

Saturday November 26 - NAB AFL delisted player free agency period (3) begins

Sunday November 27, 2pm - NAB AFL delisted player free agency period (3) closes

Monday November 30, 2pm - Final AFL club list lodgement

Delisted players can also nominate for the NAB AFL Pre-Season Draft.

When are the 2016 NAB AFL Draft and Rookie Drafts?
The NAB AFL Draft heads to Sydney in 2016. The draft will be held on Friday, November 25.

The NAB AFL Pre-season and Rookie Drafts will be held from 4pm on Monday, November 28.

 

[Black2Blue]

He would be dynamite at the Dogs rucking to that group. Would have you in flag contention immediately imo.

I don't think it's a coincidence that our midfield has looked worse since Goldy has been carrying an injury.

And that's why our new midfield group (minus NDS, Wellsy*, Boomer) will be helped so much by developing at the feet of Goldy. I have no doubt he will return to full fitness and his ability as a 4th centre-square mid has been crucial to our success and has a big impact on the workload of the 3 starting mids. Not to mention is aerobic ability around the ground. Just look at the influence the bushranger had on the Demon's young midfield this season.

Goldy will also be that senior A-grader that will set the standard for the kids coming through. He has shown he has the talent and drive that can take him to the highest level and that's the example we need. Only Taz has come close to that. Cunners, JZ and JMac might get there, but these role models are too few at the moment to give up our best one.

 

[bendad]

No one is disagreeing that he is our best or near it when fit. He is a great player. But what I don't understand is how those who don't want to trade him or Cunnington or any of our top players think we are going to get better? Not next year but in 2-4 years time? Do you think we can just sit on pick 11 and 29 and that will be enough? I love some of the young talent we have Mountford, Clarke & EVW have all showed a bit in the 2's and Wood could be a star. But history shows they don't all work out and the only way to ensure you have enough talent for a tilt at a flag is to go to the draft with multiple high picks (maybe a couple of years in a row) and develop them. I just can't see how you think we are going to have talent without trading out talented but aging players.

That's a really good question I have to say. And a bloody hard one!

I don't think trading good players is a bad thing, necessarily. I think trading Goldy specifically is not the way I would go - I think he adds too much to the team as it is right now, and I don't think we would get enough for him for it to be worth it. There's no doubt I have a conservative mindset and would be reluctant to trade anyone as I'm a sentimental chump.

I think you have to be prepared to trade good players, but I don't think it is wise to trade your core players, and I think Goldy, and Cunners are those. I think losing one of them, on top of what we've lost, is too much at once - it isn't time to throw everything out and start again, to my mind.

There's definitely value in what you say because when I think about who I would give up, it starts to hurt my brain. Too much love, definitely.

For next year, I would be looking to trade players such as Black, Hansen, Mullett - depth players that can play a role. I don't think we would get a lot for them, but I don't think we would get nothing. Take picks to the draft, upgrade picks if possible. Draft a batch of kids, get in free agents where possible. I think free agency is a more flexible option for clubs going forward and will be where the majority of talent comes from. I would be happy for Tuohy and Brown to come over.

I still think we'll be a good team next year, and we might have more options next year trade-wise by getting games into the young players. The club needs to look at things over a period of time - you can't guarantee getting an A-grade free agent in a specific year, but you should be able to land one over a 2-3 year period.

 

[Outlaw]

When does the 2016 NAB AFL free agency and trade period start and finish?
Here are the indicative key dates for this year's exchange period:

Friday October 7 - NAB AFL restricted free agency offer and unrestricted free agency period begins

Monday October 10, 10am* - NAB AFL Trade Period begins

Sunday October 16, 5pm - Close of NAB AFL restricted free agency offer and unrestricted free agency period

Wednesday October 19 - NAB AFL restricted free agency matching offer three-day period ends

Thursday October 20, 2pm – NAB AFL Trade Period closes

How else can players switch clubs?
Delisted players become free agents and can join new clubs during any of the three NAB AFL delisted player free agency windows.

Once clubs have delisted a player, they will receive no compensation should that player be signed by a new club.

The key dates for delisted free agents are as follows:

Tuesday November 1 - NAB AFL delisted player free agency period (1) begins

Tuesday November 8 - NAB AFL delisted player free agency period (1) closes

Thursday November 10 - NAB AFL delisted player free agency period (2) begins

Friday November 18 - NAB AFL delisted player free agency period (2) closes

Saturday November 26 - NAB AFL delisted player free agency period (3) begins

Sunday November 27, 2pm - NAB AFL delisted player free agency period (3) closes

Monday November 30, 2pm - Final AFL club list lodgement

Delisted players can also nominate for the NAB AFL Pre-Season Draft.

When are the 2016 NAB AFL Draft and Rookie Drafts?
The NAB AFL Draft heads to Sydney in 2016. The draft will be held on Friday, November 25.

The NAB AFL Pre-season and Rookie Drafts will be held from 4pm on Monday, November 28.

Thanks, I should of put a wink emoji or something. I was implying that maybe they will formally introduce our new A+ grade pickups at the count that night. I'm joking by the way.


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[tiltraise]

We aren't going to get 40 top 10 picks.

I think we will eventually although if Trump gets in who knows.

 

[king rising]

If Majak Daw left the club for Hawthorn that would test my support of this club to within an inch of its life. I don't think i would be able to cop it. IF it happens, and especially to Hawthorn we will officially have the worst list management team of all time

 

[Rooboy 96]

That Daw comment? What the, makes no sense for him to work that one out. Daw replaces Petrie not Goldy.

Kingy is a buffoon.

 

[Rooboy 96]

My view on Goldy is very similar to my view on Wells. Do we really think these two will be around at our next tilt? If the club believes this is the case then by all means keep them. But from a fan of the club with only an outside view i'd say they definitely won't be there. It could be good to keep them around for their experience, similar to what Montagna and Riewoldt have done at the Saints. Nevertheless i think, while they have value we should let them go.

you know Melbourne tried this a few years ago put them back 5 years and made the beg the league for priority picks and to pay for their coach. But by all means trade out all our experience.

 

[Rooboy 96]

If Majak Daw left the club for Hawthorn that would test my support of this club to within an inch of its life. I don't think i would be able to cop it. IF it happens, and especially to Hawthorn we will officially have the worst list management team of all time

are we trading with Hawthorn again this year? Oh FFS have we learnt nothing.

 

[tiltraise]

you know Melbourne tried this a few years ago put them back 5 years and made the beg the league for priority picks and to pay for their coach. But by all means trade out all our experience.

Lol not sure where he suggested trading out all our experience but hey dont let the facts get in the way.

 

[Reagan Smash]

David King is regurgitating the same shite.

He's used his theory with Richmond and * earlier this year.

Trade your best players for a crap shoot in the draft

 

[SMaturin]

Onya Kingy. Easy to coach when you're not coaching. How'd that go again?

 

[FastLife]

Kingy thinks the AFL is the NBA.

 

[The chorus]

you know Melbourne tried this a few years ago put them back 5 years and made the beg the league for priority picks and to pay for their coach. But by all means trade out all our experience.

There are so many football shows nowadays and the commentators need things to talk about, and proposing a total rebuild for a club opens up a great range of possibilities for them to talk about, fill in time and most importantly keep getting paid. Look at how it sucks in so many people in this thread for example!

 

[Le Grille]

Jeebus, with all the outgoings this trade period are we going to even have a list

 

[ViperR1]

The idea behind trading Goldy is that if we're rebuilding, Goldy, at 28, probably won't be a part of our next flag push. He'd be one of the few players we have with decent currency and getting one, possibly two first rounders or quality young players in exchange for him would help us massively in the long run

Whereas Wood, at 23, is going to be a massive part of our future, as him, Brown, Tarrant, Dumont, Clarke etc would be the guys we'd base our rebuild around

Again, this is based on the assumption that we're going to undergo a full rebuild and even then, I doubt we'd trade him, unless it was for something that's simply too good to turn down (eg a combination of Kelly/Shiel/Cameron)

I guess I now better understand the logic, thanks, but for mine he is simply too important. Majak is a handy back-up and Preuss developing nicely, just feel Goldstein is a required player regardless of premiership windows and all that talk.

Put it this way, if I could trade Cunnington before Goldstein regardless of their ages, I would pick Cunnington every time. That's just one example.

We need speed and quality outside, not better ruckmen IMO - so i'd rather focus our trading on needs, not just who has the most currency by diluting a key strength of ours just to improve a weakness.

 

[ViperR1]

Kingy has NFI

EFA

 

[giantroo]

Updated:

2021
Ziebell

2020
Cunnington
Wood

2019
Tarrant
Goldstein
MacMillan
McKay

2018
Swallow
Wright
Atley
Anderson
Brown
McDonald
Garner
Thomas
Turner
Vickers-Willis
Clarke

2017
Thompson
Hansen
Higgins (?)
Black
Mullett
Jacobs
Dumont
Durdin
Nielson
Mountford
Wagner
Preuss (Rookie)

2016
Harvey
Petrie
Dal Santo
Firrito
Ray (Rookie)
Nahas (Rookie)
Waite
Wells
Gibson
Tippett
McKenzie
Daw
Fordham (Rookie)

 

[giantroo]

Cloke to the Dogs on a two year deal

http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/wan...s/news-story/46f1fec72730fa774b3e90a6c3c45ed7

 

[giantroo]

Wells is weighing up an approach from Collingwood which will give him at least a two-year deal. North Melbourne has a two-year deal on the table for Wells but earlier this week was not confident of retaining the midfielder.

 

[Smoocher]

Kingy thinks the AFL is the NBA.

Kingy trying to stay relevant in the media by making troll like comments to stay employed to feed a degenerate habit.
IMO.


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[Popeye10]

If Majak Daw left the club for Hawthorn that would test my support of this club to within an inch of its life. I don't think i would be able to cop it. IF it happens, and especially to Hawthorn we will officially have the worst list management team of all time

Make that 2 of us

 

[shintemaster]

I'm looking forward to seeing Daw get a red hot crack at our forward line next year. But, if you were going to trade him now would be the time - ie. if we don't plan on him genuinely being part of our future for the next 5+ years he will have great value right now.