List Mgmt. 2017 Trade & FA Targets Part 3

[Quixote]

So err... you're suggesting some kind of Gaff err... tape?

Spot on.

I'd just hope that with Gaff, we wouldn't be masking over some of our issues. It's a sticky issue. He could very well be electrical on the wing for us.

OK that last one was a stretch.

 

[bergholt]

First preference: Kelly
Decent second preference: Gaff + Laird

Both Gaff and Laird are A-graders, and they fit into our list pretty well. Neither will win a Brownlow, which Kelly might, but they could definitely play a part in winning us a final.

 

[Gavinmitchell11]

Isaac Smith will be 29 on Dec 30.

Any word on next year though? As that's when the saints would have him.

 

[Ceanag]

They value Gaff quite highly over on the WC board ...Gaff and pick 46 to Saints for pick 7 and Acres is a trade they think will work for them

 

[pebblesofsand]

Spot on.

I'd just hope that with Gaff, we wouldn't be masking over some of our issues. It's a sticky issue. He could very well be electrical on the wing for us.

OK that last one was a stretch.

 

[Diehard Saint]

They value Gaff quite highly over on the WC board ...Gaff and pick 46 to Saints for pick 7 and Acres is a trade they think will work for them

No wonder at all that your avatar is screaming!

 

[Quixote]

I would strongly prefer to take pick 7 or 8 to the draft than use on Gaff. Actually, I'd be very underwhelmed if we gave up an 18 year rated as one of the best in the country for Gaff. Seriously. As much as he 'fills a need' for us, feel like he's a player who's ceiling and limitations are set and also feel like the bust factor with him is right up there high.

 

[D2D3]

They value Gaff quite highly over on the WC board ...Gaff and pick 46 to Saints for pick 7 and Acres is a trade they think will work for them

Dreaming.....

 

[Winmar2Lockett]

So if playing with only 17 when the opposition have the ball is a problem, do we play Paddy McCartin next year?

Wash your mouth out!

Paddy at least makes one effort!


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[The Enemy Within]

I would strongly prefer to take pick 7 or 8 to the draft than use on Gaff. Actually, I'd be very underwhelmed if we gave up an 18 year rated as one of the best in the country for Gaff. Seriously. As much as he 'fills a need' for us, feel like he's a player who's ceiling and limitations are set and also feel like the bust factor with him is right up there high.

I was told i'm dreaming for suggesting a 2nd round pick that's were i value him.

 

[burningdwarf]

They value Gaff quite highly over on the WC board ...Gaff and pick 46 to Saints for pick 7 and Acres is a trade they think will work for them

That's probably the equivalent of us hoping for Gaff for a second.

 

[Moorabbin Ghost]

I would strongly prefer to take pick 7 or 8 to the draft than use on Gaff. Actually, I'd be very underwhelmed if we gave up an 18 year rated as one of the best in the country for Gaff. Seriously. As much as he 'fills a need' for us, feel like he's a player who's ceiling and limitations are set and also feel like the bust factor with him is right up there high.

30 disposals at 75% EVERY WEEK is a pretty poor ceiling, especially at 25 years old.
The bashing of Gaff is laughable. If he had have played at St Kilda this year he would be top 2 in B&F.

 

[BilboJackins]

30 disposals at 75% EVERY WEEK is a pretty poor ceiling, especially at 25 years old.
The bashing of Gaff is laughable. If he had have played at St Kilda this year he would be top 2 in B&F.

Every player has a ceiling, Gaff's is at All Australian level...

Some of the commentary on this board is almost unreadable

 

[Quixote]

30 disposals at 75% EVERY WEEK is a pretty poor ceiling, especially at 25 years old.
The bashing of Gaff is laughable. If he had have played at St Kilda this year he would be top 2 in B&F.

Really? I would have thought there'd be a handful ahead of him for sure.

He's a good kick and he gets the ball sure. But there's a lot of cheap possessions to be had on the wide expanses of Subi, not to mention favourable umpiring. What are his stats and performances like away from home? There's a lot he doesn't bring to the table, I don't think we're going to get the leadership and/or hard edge you'd expect from a 25 year old.

Also why are WCE willing to let him go if he's such a gun/valuable asset? Gaff is not a game turner, he's a talented skier who'll give you something on the outside, but when there's heat in the kitchen, say goodnight, he'll go missing and will be of little to no value to the team.

I think we need a player with more depth. Don't think a Gaff is part of the answer for our side. Reckon he's extremely high risk prospect, especially given what we could get from the top 10.

 

[Joffaboy]

That's probably the equivalent of us hoping for Gaff for a second.

Ok split the difference. Acres plus second rounder.

Sounds fair and Acres is hopeless anyway

 

[Joffaboy]

Every player has a ceiling, Gaff's is at All Australian level...

Some of the commentary on this board is almost unreadable

Personally, I dont read the unreadable stuff.

Suggest you follow suit.

 

[Quixote]

Every player has a ceiling, Gaff's is at All Australian level...

Some of the commentary on this board is almost unreadable

Agreed, useless posts everywhere ^^^, but we don't all whinge about it because what would that achieve hey....

 

[CALL ME SNAKE]

30 disposals at 75% EVERY WEEK is a pretty poor ceiling, especially at 25 years old.
The bashing of Gaff is laughable. If he had have played at St Kilda this year he would be top 2 in B&F.

Makes me laugh him getting branded as " soft" as well.
Aussie Jones never got a hard ball in his life and he was a Saints crowd favourite.
Certain players have certain roles. Gaff does his pretty well IMO.

 

[The Punter]

Really? I would have thought there'd be a handful ahead of him for sure.

He's a good kick and he gets the ball sure. But there's a lot of cheap possessions to be had on the wide expanses of Subi, not to mention favourable umpiring. What are his stats and performances like away from home? There's a lot he doesn't bring to the table, I don't think we're going to get the leadership and/or hard edge you'd expect from a 25 year old.

Also why are WCE willing to let him go if he's such a gun/valuable asset? Gaff is not a game turner, he's a talented skier who'll give you something on the outside, but when there's heat in the kitchen, say goodnight, he'll go missing and will be of little to no value to the team.

I think we need a player with more depth. Don't think a Gaff is part of the answer for our side. Reckon he's extremely high risk prospect, especially given what we could get from the top 10.

1. Subi is long, not wide.
2. Gaff's career disposal average is higher in Victoria (MCG, Docklands, Geelong) than in Western Australia
3. He's extremely low risk. You know exactly what you're going to get - he's averaged 29-30 disposals per game for three straight seasons. Don't confuse risk with the potential we overpay for him.

I think if we had a mid-teens 1st rounder we'd be all over him. I think Kelly should be the priority but Gaff would be a very safe purchase as a fall-back option if available. Would almost certainly enable us to stay in the 1st round this year.

 

[Yawkey way]

So what happened to Kelly ? Is gaff the consolation prize or are we interested in both.

 

[Mowman]

Would be more then happy to have Gaff in a Saints jumper, AA also one of WC best players in their last GF. Would be atop 5 player at the Saints

 

[sunny3193]

Hawthorn still owe Carlton either Sicily or O'Rourke from last year's 2nd pick back trade. Any chance we can leverage off that for an extra Christmas bonus?

 

[Quixote]

1. Subi is long, not wide.
2. Gaff's career disposal average is higher in Victoria (MCG, Docklands, Geelong) than in Western Australia
3. He's extremely low risk. You know exactly what you're going to get - he's averaged 29-30 disposals per game for three straight seasons. Don't confuse risk with the potential we overpay for him.

I think if we had a mid-teens 1st rounder we'd be all over him. I think Kelly should be the priority but Gaff would be a very safe purchase as a fall-back option if available. Would almost certainly enable us to stay in the 1st round this year.

If Andrew Gaff is equivalent to a Top 10 Draft pick I'll eat my hat -- way overs no matter how you spin it.

 

[The_Steadier]

Hawthorn still owe Carlton either Sicily or O'Rourke from last year's 2nd pick back trade. Any chance we can leverage off that for an extra Christmas bonus?

I'd say it's the AFL that owe carlton a favour for taking that crap trade to get jaeger done.... not hawthorn.

 

[Marlo]

Didn't Gaff get over 40 touches vs the Crows in SA in last year's finals?

Happy to hand Weller the captaincy, but don't let Gaff damage our brand.. lmao