List Mgmt. 2018 Trade, Free Agency & Draft Thread MK 3 [JP✔️ JPII✔️ Hall✔️ BScott✔️ Tyson✔️ Clarke➡️ Preuss➡️]

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I concur with this. Concerned if this will have ramifications given the interview Polec did last week about ‘playing with G*ff in 2019’. No tick until the club issue a statement saying it’s all over red rover.
I think we're safe with Polec, he doesn't strike me as someone with the weak mental fortitude of a certain Gaff.
 
Moving on..... the theme has been run and skill. G*ff, Hall, Polec, Finlayson, Newman.

There's a common denominator running through there.

Trade week is 9 days, if there is a Plan B, we don't have much time to execute it.

We probably won't have to wait long to find out who it is, considering the Finlayson news broke pretty quickly.

The Hun’s already running with our plan B having us revisit the Kelly situation in light of their present salary cap debacle.

Jesus!
 
The Hun’s already running with our plan B having us revisit the Kelly situation in light of their present salary cap debacle.

Jesus!


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If the instance is true that decisions were made on other players then I agree to a degree, even if we have a week of verbal agreements we don't have a player until he has ink on a contract and is holding up his guernsey.

The people relaying the info they've heard aren't to blame though, I know factually some of them have very good sources. For some within the club it's a lesson in counting chickens.

They didn’t learn that lesson with Dusty ???? Idiots.

Come on people, name and shame.
 
In my old fashioned way, I would prefer for all players to be one club players and so we wouldn't be targeting anyone. Back in the old days, anyone who moved clubs was usually classed as a reject. (I remember one cold winter's night being at Fitzroy's training at the Lake Oval in the 1980's when David Parkin - or it might have been Robert Walls - introduced Alan Sidebottom to the players. He had just been cleared to us by the saints. That was at a time when players could change clubs mid season. He went on I think to play just 2 games for us in a sequel to a far from impressive career at the saints. He is the ideal definition of a reject.)

But I digress. The reality though is that Free Agency, the Draft and the Salary Cap, are all in place to, in part placate players, but largely to even up the competition. Without these measures the struggling clubs of that time would now be extinct and the likes of Carlton would be accumulating flags through their cheque book recruiting.

Yes that is what we are trying to do now, cheque book recruiting, but there is a limit to how far and eventually deals such as those offered to the Gaffster, if successful, will inevitably come home to haunt us when someone like a Simpkin or a LDU next come out of contract and are hopefully close to or guns of the competition.

And yes the good old days were indeed the good old days except if you supported a club like Fitzroy, who could not then compete with the financial heavyweights. Though now I suspect Fitzroy would be very much more on an even keel, like we are today, with the other battlers of those good old days. Safe enough in an 18 team National competition.
 
LMAO I did question why snake had not ticked off the Gaff deal a week ago, such was the certitude that abounded on this board, but clearly snake was not convinced and kudos to him. WTF is Brad going to come up with now? $1.3m massively above the odds for Gaff. Can someone who is s grown up at the club please take control and think about a better strategy for getting the right players at the club, maybe start with trading for top draft picks?
 
Is the issue now having the trade currency? Polec and Hall still need to be negotiated. Free agency being the free hit it is was the major factor with Mr Gaff! I like the sound of Finlayson. Surely we couldn’t have any chips left on the table if we secured 3 by trade.

On a side note, I spend far to much time reading here and I respect everyone’s view and input.....but I would love to see those ticks come down until pen leaves ink on paper. As we are learning, nothing is final until that ink transfers from the pen to the paper.
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Interesting that the Eagles announcement doesn't mention how long Gaff signed for. To me that indicates just how quickly the deal was put together.

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We’ve had the huge cap room for two seasons now. If we managed it well, we have front loaded many contracts, but it’s still not very healthy to go into another season with that much unused cap space. But I just can’t see what the plan B could legitimately be without having any currency at trade table.

All we really have is Preuss and our next season’s first rounder. Will be hard to land a big fish - let’s hope Joyce can somehow surprise us.


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Unlucky with Gaff guys, it seems extremely likely that it was a last minute back flip (otherwise it is just a dick move to drag it out that long) which has got to be tough to take. Hopefully you can land a (non Eagles) big name talent soon :thumbsu:

Is there any reason you guys aren't heavily into trying to get Kelly now? If GWS need to free up immediate cap space and Kelly is likely out the door next year surely it would be worth them thinking about offloading him early so they can retain Shiel?
 
Is there any reason you guys aren't heavily into trying to get Kelly now? If GWS need to free up immediate cap space and Kelly is likely out the door next year surely it would be worth them thinking about offloading him early so they can retain Shiel?

I don't see why we can't problem is its very late to make such a big play when Shiels movement is up in the air at this point, plus Finlayson which we're apparently into as well and I find it hard to believe GWS will part with not only him, but also Kelly. imo it is in their best interests to retain Shiel since Kelly's homeward bound is an inevitability, we'd have to pay through the nose if we wait until next year anyway, its just a matter of GWS playing ball with us.

It's hard to know what is the Plan 'B', if there even is one.
 
I was right about both of those and nothing posted ever made me change my mind!! Unfortunately all the so called inner scrots made me doubt myself with Gaff.

It will be interesting to see if Phillyroo posts again. 2 year’s in a row he’s played us. He’s the biggest troll of all time!!
I didnt see any posts from Phillyroo regarding Gaff......not to the levels of confidence of last year. Poor bugger getting lambasted for nothing here in my book.
There were huge levels of confidence from those who are in the know.....but until we see a presser where said player announcing his intentions to leave his club and join ours its never set in stone.
Those who share inside of trading info shouldn't be shot nor lambasted........if they know anything next year and didnt share with us all people here will be bugging the sch1t out them to hear the gossip and chatter. Its a no win situation lads.....probably best to share inside knowledge to those you know will keep it mum, and behind private messages away from lazy reporters as well. This way they can conjure up fake stories elsewhere from other "thourses" and other clubs.
 
Interesting that the Eagles announcement doesn't mention how long Gaff signed for. To me that indicates just how quickly the deal was put together.

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Over the last few years WCE haven't been very specific publicly on contract details. This one doesn't seem to be any different.
 
I rate him equal to Gaff anyway, their statistical averages are about the same. Gaff has just played more games.

I consider Polec a big win. So its not all doom and gloom.
I don't see him much further behind in terms of this year. He'll be very good for us. It's like people are thinking we got nothing and we have failed to land someone when Polec is coming? I don't know.
 
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