Prediction 2018 trade hypothetical thread

[Drewie11]

the band 1 sloane compo was suggested in lieu of pick 19 from your original post

He was suggesting pick 19 that Adelaide would get if Sloane leaves. Not pick 9

 

[Crow till I die]

He was suggesting pick 19 that Adelaide would get if Sloane leaves. Not pick 9

oh..tell him he's dreaming...band 1 compo it will be

 

[Flags_In_The_Bag]

we will see on draft night but I think you might be in for a surprise

The whole scare tactics don't work no more. If the dogs still have their first pick, I believe they are taking him if available

 

[Mego Red]

Pick 14 or where Melbourne finish and McGovern to the Dogs for pick 5

Pick 8, 19 and 2019 first and second to Carlton for Pick 1.

Are these close to fair deals?

I would genuinely burn down Adelaide Oval if the Crows did those deals.

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[Crow till I die]

The whole scare tactics don't work no more. If the dogs still have their first pick, I believe they are taking him if available

yeah..like I said we will see but I am pretty confident he will be passed up in the first 6-7 picks

 

[Mego Red]

Oh OK that much better P8 for P1 and P23

No, it's McGovern (who is worth a first and second as a contracted key forward) and pick 8 for pick 1 and 23.


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[Mego Red]

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Yes

Lol. Crows aren't giving away Mitch McGovern just to move nine places up in the draft. Ridiculous.

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[Drewie11]

I would genuinely burn down Adelaide Oval if the Crows did those deals.

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We just gave up 10 and 16 for a 29 year old and that club is still standing, stop talking tough.

I would happily pass over pick 8, 19 possibly pick 18 and 36in 2019 (wishful thinking) for a player people are saying could be exactly like Nick Reiwoldt

And Mitch McGovern is not worth a first and second round pick

 

[Apex36]

In what fantasy land do you think we’d hand over Bolton to you for a third rounder?

In the same fantasy land where Durdin has actual trade value.

 

[Taylor]

No, it's McGovern (who is worth a first and second as a contracted key forward) and pick 8 for pick 1 and 23.


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Key forward? You know he is shorter than his brother, right? Mitch is the same height as Chris Judd, Scott Pendlebury is taller.

 

[Peel67skin]

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o 2 x 2018 top 10 picks, a 2019 1st rounder and a 2019 2nd rounder for pick 1..not thanks. I am sure most people would want 2 very highly rated players and 2 top 20 players rather than 1 exceptional player

Not GC , Rankine top 4 pick.

 

[Mego Red]

We just gave up 10 and 16 for a 29 year old and that club is still standing, stop talking tough.

I would happily pass over pick 8, 19 possibly pick 17 and 34 in 2019 (wishful thinking) for a player people are saying could be exactly like Nick Reiwoldt

And Mitch McGovern is not worth a first and second round pick

We gave up ten. Pick 16 last year is less valuable than pick 19 this year, which we received for it.

There is a chance Luko could be a bust, as have so many high drafted talls recently. We don't know how he'll impact in a game where they allow much more congestion - he hasn't shown much potential for contested marking. 8,14 and 19 is pretty much three first rounders PLUS another second? For a unproven player?

Finally, There is less that zero chance a young PROVEN tall forward who has two years on his deal is being traded away for just a first round pick. FFS, you just pointed out the Gibbs trade yourself, and he only had a year left.

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[Mego Red]

Key forward? You know he is shorter than his brother, right? Mitch is the same height as Chris Judd, Scott Pendlebury is taller.

Oh, okay. You haven't seen him play. You should have mentioned that in your post.

Mitch has been playing as a key forward for the Crows. He is a pack marking tall forward. That's absolutely what he can offer.

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[Mego Red]

We just gave up 10 and 16 for a 29 year old and that club is still standing, stop talking tough.

Have you seen the club recently?

 

[Taylor]

Oh, okay. You haven't seen him play. You should have mentioned that in your post.

Mitch has been playing as a key forward for the Crows. He is a pack marking tall forward. That's absolutely what he can offer.

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I've seen his great work as your third forward plenty.

He is a leading, leaping forward. Mark LeCras played that role in the early parts of this decade. Not a key forward either.

He is a flanker, and that's just fine. His leap and marking make him a very rare talent. That's enough to ask a high pick. No need for the hyperbole.

 

[Drewie11]

We gave up ten. Pick 16 last year is less valuable than pick 19 this year, which we received for it.

There is a chance Luko could be a bust, as have so many high drafted talls recently. We don't know how he'll impact in a game where they allow much more congestion - he hasn't shown much potential for contested marking. 8,14 and 19 is pretty much three first rounders PLUS another second? For a unproven player?

Finally, There is less that zero chance a young PROVEN tall forward who has two years on his deal is being traded away for just a first round pick. FFS, you just pointed out the Gibbs trade yourself, and he only had a year left.

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Yes 10 and 16 from last which was less than this year so please read my post AGAIN! I suggested a first and second in THE 2019 DRAFT!

I also never said pick 14- I said 8 plus 19 and hopefully 18 and 36 NEXT YEAR. (Which means we win the premiership if you read between the lines)

There is nothing wrong with taking a chance on a player that is South Australian and extremely highly rated. Yes there have been lots of high tall draft picks that are flops but there has also been some really good ones. Roughie, Franklin, Reiwoldt, Hogan, Daniher.

I would have more respect for Adelaide if they were willing to take a risk and go for 2 South Australians with speculative draft picks anyway later down the draft.

And if you want to keep McGovern to a contract when he doesn’t want to be here then that is a recipe for disaster. If we get Luko with Fogarty and Rankine then that is just about set our forward line for 10 years with some insane talent

 

[finn]

Harry Dear, what’s your thoughts Adelaide supporters?

You’d be looking at a third or fourth rounder if not lower. For some reason it looks like they don’t rate him; he may possibly be delisted so even cheaper.

 

[Drewie11]

You’d be looking at a third or fourth rounder if not lower. For some reason it looks like they don’t rate him; he may possibly be delisted so even cheaper.

I’ll give you the “some reason”

Walker, Jenkins, McGovern, Lynch and Fogarty

 

[the rooboy]

North are committed to getting Tayrn Thomas.. he is thought to be top10. So any idea or theoretical that does not take that into account is flawed.
Then second; StK would have a pick before you and would probably trade their P3 for a couple of later picks.. and use one on DeG. They have cap room. So the whole concept of putting him in the National will not work.

If you want him ..and he wants you ..you will be paying for him over odds. A player being offered 1M a year .. is worth a R1 this year and next.

You don’t understand that’s cool


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[Flags_In_The_Bag]

Lol. Crows aren't giving away Mitch McGovern just to move nine places up in the draft. Ridiculous.

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Ridiculous to make sure of a Sth Aussie in Rankine for a player that could want to leave, yeah right.

 

[Turbocat]

You don’t understand that’s cool


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I understand that its all irrelevant now as DeG is going to stay at Collingwood.. so save your money up for Kelly or your next target.

 

[philthy05]

I’ll give you the “some reason”

Walker, Jenkins, McGovern, Lynch and Fogarty

I don’t know who has missed what games, maybe you can tell me, but haven’t a fair few of those players missed quite a lot of games this year?

Are you really saying the only reason dear isn’t playing football is because you have too many in form forwards holding him out ?

 

[THE_GUN]

Harry Dear 4 years at the Crows and is out of contract this year and yet to play a game - Will be delisted at the end of the year one would think

 

[Mego Red]

Ridiculous to make sure of a Sth Aussie in Rankine for a player that could want to leave, yeah right.

Absolutely. McGovern is contracted for the next two years. We would value him at a first and second round pick, minimum. If you think someone would give all of that up, just to move nine spots in the draft then I don't know what to say.

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[Mego Red]

Pick 14 or where Melbourne finish and McGovern to the Dogs for pick 5

Pick 8, 19 and 2019 first and second to Carlton for Pick 1.

Are these close to fair deals?

Then let me comment on the deals individually.

1. Horrendous. Giving up McGovern to move nine picks is insane.

2. This is pretty much the equivalent of three firsts and a second for pick one. I think that's a disaster.

McGovern, right now, is worth roughly a first and a second.

So, to get two players who may or may not work out, you've traded the equivalent of five firsts and two seconds.

You may slightly disagree with my value, but it still is a shocker of a deal.

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