Analysis 2019 List, Game Plan and Best 22?

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Considerably quicker?

At the 2009 draft combine Reid recorded 2.92 for the 20m sprint. 4th in his draft class.

McCartin last year did not make the top 10 (2.97 being 10th).

Not saying McCartin is slow, but “considerably” quicker than Reid? Not sure about that.....
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Fair point. Sam risks a hammy sprinting over any distànce. Tom can run repeat sprints
 
Oh well we will see

Guys who miss 2 of their last 3 years often come back fully based on stats from years prior? The body gets more durable I guess.

What odds are being offered Reid plays 11 or more games in 2019?

He came back from playing 10 games in 2013 to playing 100% of the games over the next 3 years.

He's played more than 11 games in 4 of the past 6 seasons, so the odds would be fairly long.

this is another one of those myths (like Tipett being a mistake at the time).
 

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IF they're both fit Reid will offer much more than McCartin next year, so he should be in before him. Sure we're rebuilding, but we still need to pick our best 22, because we're capable of contending.

Besides, playing someone when they're under-performing at the level (McCartin was solid, but not ready imo) isn't good for their development. Let McCartin dominate the reserves for a while.

I suspect Reid will be in whether we like it or not anyway. Early indications this year was that we were going to try to isolate him and that plan showed a lot of promise.
 
'being injured all the time'

2011-2017 (excluding the 2016 season where he got injured before it started)

He played in 81% of all the games the swans had , and most of the games he missed were in 2013.

hahahah "excluding the games he missed through injury" he played in 100% of the others.

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Reid's body has let him down. I think he has proved to be a good kpf

I think we will struggle if Reg, Macca and Smithy play in too many games. We need two at the most with priority given to players who can run and clear the ball from D50.

I hope our best mixes attack defence and dare. This means selecting Cunningham, Clarke, Jones types for outside speed while rebuilding some ball magnets in the midst. I am not convinced Heeney will be a good mid. Mills and Dawson may be - too early to tell
 
People are overvaluing what McCartin brings in the immediate future. His stats were Rohan-like, lets not pretend that its a massive contribution simply because he is 18.

He showed he has great promise and talent, but a few years from now, not now.

I am on the play both wagon anyway because I think we need one of them up on the wing helping with transistion and the other supporting Buddy up forward. Rotate them around etc.
 
hahahah "excluding the games he missed through injury" he played in 100% of the others.

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Well, yeah "excluding the games he missed through injury"... the point of the post is how many games he has played.

Don't know why we bothered with AJ for so long given this board's apparent attitude towards injuries...
Dean towers will contribute more than Blakey next year , better call him back ;)
I mean tbf if I had my way Towers wouldn't be delisted and would be borderline best 22 (well ahead of Blakey at this stage).
 
People are overvaluing what McCartin brings in the immediate future. His stats were Rohan-like, lets not pretend that its a massive contribution simply because he is 18.

Absolutely. What he did was amazing for an 18yo but when compared to the rest of the key forwards in the league, particularly as the year wore on, he was a liability. Which is fine, he should be at that age and with his body. But he was definitely being overvalued.

He'll play 200+ games but right now, Reid is without question a better player (and yes, I know Reid has to actually play).
 
People are overvaluing what McCartin brings in the immediate future. His stats were Rohan-like, lets not pretend that its a massive contribution simply because he is 18.

He showed he has great promise and talent, but a few years from now, not now.

I am on the play both wagon anyway because I think we need one of them up on the wing helping with transistion and the other supporting Buddy up forward. Rotate them around etc.


People aren’t doing that, Reid is in just about every best 22. Only a few are calling mccartin ahead,

Reid’s career stats are Rohan like though, very similar , surprised he was that close to Rohan when I checked (slightly ahead)
 
Play a rotating tall forward line of Reid, McCartin, Sinclair/Cameron. Sinclair/Cameron ruck 30%. Naismith 70%. Allows for Sinclair/Cameron to second ruck and Reid to be switched to defence.

Most importantly, allows Franklin to play as a third tall. Rather than as a target. That gives me a stiffy.

The key to this would be the onballers having the discipline to play to structure. That is, kick the ball to the key forwards. Imagine being Hardwick having to decide on where to put the diver if most of the forward entries are going through Reid and McCartin.
 
He came back from playing 10 games in 2013 to playing 100% of the games over the next 3 years.
How could he play 100% of games over the next 3 years if he was injured for the entire 2016 season?

And look at all the games he was injured for in 2014. He missed 6.

Why do you claim such rubbish stats? What’s the point?


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Thinking ahead towards the end of 2019, with the old hands transitioned out of the team (McVeigh, Grundy, Smith and Jack), I think we are looking at a 22 along the lines of this:

FB: Rampe (29) - Melican (22) - O'Riordan (24)
HB: Lloyd (26) - Aliir (25) - Jones (24)

C: Mills (22) - Kennedy (31) - Florent (21)

HF: Hayward (20) - Reid (27) - Ronke (21)
FF: Papley (23) - Franklin (32) - McCartin (19)

F: Naismith (27) - Parker (26) - Heeney (23)

I: Sinclair (30) - Cunningham (25) - Hewett (23) - Clarke (22)

Maybe there is one tall too many in that ruck/key forward group. I think Reid, McCartin and Franklin are all mobile enough key forwards for it to work, though. I really like the look of the forward line, a good mix of marking targets and small options. We just need to be feeding them the ball better.

I haven't found space for Dawson, Blakey or Thurlow, though initially I felt like they would be in there somewhere. Clarke got the nod ahead of them due to superior AFL-level performance to date.

It would have been nice to have had to slot Darcy Moore in to that backline. I think unless we see Maibaum start to stake a claim midway through next season then we are going to be on the market for another key defender again next off-season.

Beyond that need, bringing in another A-grade midfielder would be a priority for me. I think we can expect for improvement to come from the likes of Florent, Jones, Mills, Dawson etc. but we could do with another hard, mature, inside midfielder, with an eye on the fact that Kennedy is now in to his 30s.

I've included the ages of everyone as they would be this time next year. Average age is 24yr 8m. I think the noticeable thing about the ages is that there are not too many people in the mid-braket of 25-29 years of age. We have a really good bunch of younger players coming through, we have had an exceptional generation of older leaders over the last few years as well, but there is a bit of a gap in between them. That midfielder we target should ideally be in this age bracket.
 
He came back from playing 10 games in 2013 to playing 100% of the games over the next 3 years.

He's played more than 11 games in 4 of the past 6 seasons, so the odds would be fairly long.

this is another one of those myths (like Tipett being a mistake at the time).


Ok l bet you he can’t play more than 10 games in 2019? Afl senior games of course not NEAFL
 
He came back from playing 10 games in 2013 to playing 100% of the games over the next 3 years.

He's played more than 11 games in 4 of the past 6 seasons, so the odds would be fairly long.

this is another one of those myths (like Tipett being a mistake at the time).


He came back from 10 in 2013 to play

20 of 25
22 of 24
And 0 of 26

How’s that 100% by the way
 
If they think Hanners is cooked and Rohan doesn’t contribute enough I would love to know why they gave Reid and long term deal and what they think of his cooked body


Tall. Takes a mark, looks good for a few moments a year, that’s why he’s so loved here

Like Rohan was speedy and kicked the odd goal so took ages for us to realise he was a spud.
 
Tall. Takes a mark, looks good for a few moments a year, that’s why he’s so loved here

Like Rohan was speedy and kicked the odd goal so took ages for us to realise he was a spud.
He will have to be on the table next year if he has another shot year

Just going of the treatment of Hanners?
 
He will have to be on the table next year if he has another shot year

Just going of the treatment of Hanners?


Who would want him though, would be a low pick, Hanners had proud history
 
Tall. Takes a mark, looks good for a few moments a year, that’s why he’s so loved here

Like Rohan was speedy and kicked the odd goal so took ages for us to realise he was a spud.

I'm personally not arguing Reid's talent, I put him in the roleplayer tier when I ranked the team.

But while he is a Swan and McCartin is still on his P's he is a no brainer best 22 in myopinion.
 
Absolutely. What he did was amazing for an 18yo but when compared to the rest of the key forwards in the league, particularly as the year wore on, he was a liability. Which is fine, he should be at that age and with his body. But he was definitely being overvalued.

He'll play 200+ games but right now, Reid is without question a better player (and yes, I know Reid has to actually play).

No, no he wasn’t!
 

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