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Huh ? You posted the information, what as community service ? Well good for you. I wouldn't promote ownership of it either.

He doesnt have to own it any more than anyone else who posts articles and information here. Its something to discuss, as befits a forum created specifically for that.

Im inclined to agree with Kwality and BobbyMorri - this thread has become a free for all for anyone with an axe to grind against another sport.

41,000 isnt a bad crowd for super rugby, regardless of the stadium capacity. Sports crowds need to be viewed through the prism of crowds that sport gets, and relative to that sport this isnt bad at all.
 

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He doesnt have to own it any more than anyone else who posts articles and information here. Its something to discuss, as befits a forum created specifically for that.

Im inclined to agree with Kwality and BobbyMorri - this thread has become a free for all for anyone with an axe to grind against another sport.

41,000 isnt a bad crowd for super rugby, regardless of the stadium capacity. Sports crowds need to be viewed through the prism of crowds that sport gets, and relative to that sport this isnt bad at all.
And the covid effect. lots of people are't going to sports like they have for a decade or five.
 

After years as the A-League's bad news bears, Wellington Phoenix are in sight of an attendance record on Saturday when they return home for the first time this season.

The Phoenix - like the NRL's Warriors and NBL's New Zealand Breakers - have spent the season playing in Australia due to COVID-19 border restrictions.

After 22 games on the road, the Phoenix turn out in their home city this weekend.

Thousands will be waiting.

"We've done 15,000 (tickets) already and we've got Thursday, Friday Saturday left," Phoenix general manager David Dome told AAP.

All NZ teams deserve a massive welcome home party. They have done it tough during this pandemic. They are also expecting a big crowd the week after at Eden Park for Nix v Perth Glory.

The NZ Breakers will play matches in Auckland, New Plymouth, Christchurch, Pukekohe and Rotorua on their return and I am sure each occasion, they will be well supported.

The NRL will be looking at this and fast-forwarding their plans to get the Warriors home(which is currently scheduled to be on July 2)
 
Having a game on a Wednesday night isn't exactly going to be a crowd puller is it?

If you went back in a time machine to 2013 or 2006 (i.e. 8 or 15 years ago now) and told an A League fan that the Big Blue will end up pulling 4226 in 2021, you wouldn't be believed even if they saw you emerge from portal vortex.

Wednesday and Covid are both going to have an effect but the A League is in devastatingly poor health. It is gone backwards at a sustained rate of knots for 7 years now and this year it is really stinking it up.

The game last night didn't make the 27K cut off on pay tv but it is highly likely it didn't even get half of that. Average crowds are down to barely 5K and the ratings have recently hit those levels for games that have been reported on the weekend.

It's more likely a bottoming out than an extinction event but I had thought it was nearing "bottoming out stage" for the last few years.

It would be the ultimate triumph of old soccer if they get this second division off the ground and it achieves better "metrics" than the A league
 
Interesting beyond the code itself is the use of FTA & streaming by Nine.

'The 2021 Super Rugby season was the first to be aired under Nine’s new broadcast agreement with Rugby Australia. Over the weekend, the Super Rugby AU and Super Rugby Aotearoa competitions wrapped up with both of their Grand Finals being played on Saturday.

This year the Super Rugby AU Final reached around 1.3 million people via Stan Sport, Channel Nine, 9Gem and 9Now, and was up 232% year on year*. The Super Rugby AU regular season was also up 162% year on year*.

Mediaweek spoke to Nine’s director of sport, Brent Williams, about what the season has been like so far and what the future holds for Super Rugby on Nine.


This season, Saturday night Super Rugby AU matches have been aired live on Nine free-to-air. Williams says that this weekly broadcast was significant.

“It was hugely important, and that’s reflected in the fact that we ran it on the main channel into Sydney, Brisbane, and Canberra. We saw it as an opportunity to continue to grow the sport, which has been growing considerably in viewing numbers all throughout this season. That free-to-air aspect is really important to keep growing the fanbase and to re-engage with some rugby fans who might have drifted across the last couple of years.”

*Based exclusively on broadcast numbers vs Foxtel'

 

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Head injury is quite rightly a hot topic across many codes these days & Rugby Union are pulling their weight, right down to an impact monitoring mouthguard, which has a recording accuracy of 95%.


Rugby-governing bodies World Rugby, New Zealand Rugby and Rugby Australia will be trying out NeuroFlex – an eye-tracking technology that runs on virtual reality – to aid in diagnosing and managing concussions.

Developed by Saccade Analytics, a technology solutions provider for neurological care, NeuroFlex is currently being trialled in the 2021 Super Rugby Trans-Tasman – a rugby competition in Australia and New Zealand.


Besides Neuroflex, World Rugby has also tapped another eye-tracking technology developer, EyeGuide, to assist in managing brain injuries for athletes. It runs a platform that rapidly captures and analyses eye movements in 10 seconds.

Other players in the brain injury assessment and management space include US-based NeuroLogix Technologies with its C3Logix system; BrainCheck and its mobile app that makes neurocognitive assessments; and BrainScope, a maker of wearable device and app that gauges traumatic brain injuries.

Meanwhile, World Rugby has joined a large-scale study with New Zealand Rugby, the University of Otago and US-based Prevent Biometrics to understand the nature and frequency of head impact in rugby matches. The study uses an impact monitoring mouthguard, which has a recording accuracy of 95%.
 
When I asked "Was this predictable ?", I meant, was this predictable in light of the move to winter and in light that soccer has lost it's rhythm of the past few years?
Yes it was but that is terrible planning from the people who run the A League which is now going as bad as the NSL it replaced.
 
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SMH investigation reveals an 8% drop in male tackle rugby league participation since 2015.

I think all sports should release the true figures of participation and not some of the BS we get now
 
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I think all sports should release the true figures of participation and not some of the BS we get now
Thugby is a dinosaur sport stuck in the 1980s.You take away the brutal tackles and it loses its core and a big % of its fans.

You only have to listen to the bogan commentators on TV drooling over the " big hits" and decrying the new head high tackle rules to see it will slowly die as a main steam sport in the 21st century!
 
I think all sports should release the true figures of participation and not some of the BS we get now
I've never seen before such a boom in Australian Football junior numbers in Melbourne as this year - my own innerish city club is having trouble catering for them all - and by all accounts this is fairly typical of clubs - whereas in contrast, junior soccer clubs (in Melbourne) have had a downturn this year.
 
I've never seen before such a boom in Australian Football junior numbers in Melbourne as this year - my own innerish city club is having trouble catering for them all - and by all accounts this is fairly typical of clubs - whereas in contrast, junior soccer clubs (in Melbourne) have had a downturn this year.

My son's amateur team in Perth was struggling for a long time but this year there are 50 extra at training.
 
Thugby is a dinosaur sport stuck in the 1980s.You take away the brutal tackles and it loses its core and a big % of its fans.

You only have to listen to the bogan commentators on TV drooling over the " big hits" and decrying the new head high tackle rules

I had the luxury of watching the AFL, RU and NRL at the same time recently and flipped between the channels.

So at the AFL, there were big crowds, big noises and excitement. The commentators got excited by athletic or skilled action.
At the RU, there was a lot of what NRL fans decry about RU - standing around for scrums, line outs and conversions etc. Not very attractive at all.
At the NRL, initially it was crisper, more close-ups and less complete stoppages.
The commentators got excited by the simplest things. A major distraction was the score review and Ch9 winds the audio up searching for atmosphere.
 
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Thugby is a dinosaur sport stuck in the 1980s.You take away the brutal tackles and it loses its core and a big % of its fans.

You only have to listen to the bogan commentators on TV drooling over the " big hits" and decrying the new head high tackle rules to see it will slowly die as a main steam sport in the 21st century!
I'm confused by your answer to the comment i made.
 
I'm confused by your answer to the comment i made.

He was putting a hypothesis forward as to why rugby leagues participants nhave fallen so badly


In terms of your comment, the AFL have been releasing detailed participation breakdowns for years as a matter of course. You know, not just when it was convenient to reveal falling numbers because of bad pr from a belated crack down on high hits
 
I'm confused by your answer to the comment i made.
The SMH
“NRL administration has previously sugarcoated participation figures by including touch football and LeagueTag numbers alongside registered tackle players. Under the Peter V’landys and Andrew Abdo regime, the NRL has promised total transparency.”

It was about the rapidly declining RL junior playing numbers and some of the reasons mothers don't want their kids playing this inherently violent sport.
 
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Thugby is a dinosaur sport stuck in the 1980s.You take away the brutal tackles and it loses its core and a big % of its fans.

You only have to listen to the bogan commentators on TV drooling over the " big hits" and decrying the new head high tackle rules to see it will slowly die as a main steam sport in the 21st century!

You know afl is a dangerous contact sport right?!
 

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