Play Nice 2020 Non AFL Admin, Crowds, Ratings, Participation etc thread

[BobbyMorri]

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TASMANIA will be back in the NBL by midafternoon on Friday.
It was in late 2016 then new Chargers president David Bartlett declared he wanted the state to be NBL ready in three years – tomorrow that dream will become a reality.

But there is still one obstacle that could derail the whole deal.

The Mercury understands NBL owner Larry Kestelman will be flying into Hobart to make the announcement that the state will return to the league for the first time since 1996 and will become the 10th team in the competition in the 2021-22 season.

tmw is crunch day for the Tassie NBL side. the word in our local media is that it will go ahead. geech, we leave things late down here. 60 mil spend for the government all up, 40 mil for the DEC for the NBL side plus 20 mil a multi-venue sports place next door. Should be a win-win-win for all parties and sounds like they have the support from all local, state and Fed governments. But I guess we will wait for tmw.

 

[Teen Wolf]

Good turnout for one of the few pool games with fairly appropriate scheduling (would've been better off in Hobart but not by much).

 

[NoobPie]

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tmw is crunch day for the Tassie NBL side. the word in our local media is that it will go ahead. geech, we leave things late down here. 60 mil spend for the government all up, 40 mil for the DEC for the NBL side plus 20 mil a multi-venue sports place next door. Should be a win-win-win for all parties and sounds like they have the support from all local, state and Fed governments. But I guess we will wait for tmw.

Wow, great news for the AFL. If the Tas government is spending $60m to get a team in a league that would be lucky to have $20M in annual revenue, what will it contribute to have a club in a league that will turn over $2B by 2025?

 

[BobbyMorri]

Wow, great news for the AFL. If the Tas government is spending $60m to get a team in a league that would be lucky to have $20M in annual revenue, what will it contribute to have a club in a league that will turn over $2B by 2025?

It is not as simple as saying that. The 20 mil is something which has been pledged for a while and is more of a community sporting infrastructure. it is part of the redevelopment down near in this area. Larry Kestelman is going to invest 200Mil into the land to build shops and apartment buildings and the like, while the government will improve the entertainment centre, so we can host more acts. And to prevent it from becoming a white elephant, Larry will provide an NBL team. It all part of the same complex deal.

of course, all of this could be wrong but I guess we will find out tomorrow.

Edit: the council notes on the whole thing before the meeting tomorrow.

http://glenorchy.infocouncil.biz/Open/2020/02/OC_28022020_AGN_EXTRA.PDF?fbclid=IwAR2Onxwj51ENHwBYO1Q6uOP8VssvGd2x_vTYzjKZ5lW1Wc3ivrQEiV-LKj8

it is going to go ahead.

 

[Demonoid]

Western United seek alternatives after last match in Geelong

Club plays its last game for the season in Geelong on Sunday, and plans for next season are in flux with venues in inner-west Melbourne favoured over GMHBA Stadium.

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"Fans, media and almost everyone in the game regard this debut season in Geelong as a massive disappointment, with poor crowds and a lack of visibility for a club which was expected to generate interest and excitement in a struggling A-League. "

While we'd all agree that their season has been shambolic, what staggers me is that anyone expected it to be anything but.

 

[Our Game]

Western United seek alternatives after last match in Geelong

Club plays its last game for the season in Geelong on Sunday, and plans for next season are in flux with venues in inner-west Melbourne favoured over GMHBA Stadium.

www.theage.com.au

"Fans, media and almost everyone in the game regard this debut season in Geelong as a massive disappointment, with poor crowds and a lack of visibility for a club which was expected to generate interest and excitement in a struggling A-League. "

While we'd all agree that their season has been shambolic, what staggers me is that anyone expected it to be anything but.

You would think that the Western Oval in Footscray would be their best bet to get some decent crowds both Geelong and Ballarat hane been pretty disappointing so far.
The AFL struggle to fill the the windswept lacking in atmosphere Northern Oval in Ballarat even the highly successful North Ballarat VFL team when they were winning premierships were very poor crowd pullers.

 

[BobbyMorri]

the first hurdle is done.

EDIT: Confirmed!

 

[BringBackTorps]

SMH A. Webster 27.2

V'landys' secret Murdoch meeting as Greenberg future grows murky

The ARL Commission chairman met with News Corp boss Lachlan Murdoch in Los Angeles — but it's the meeting with Greenberg on Friday that intrigues more.

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Webster said:-

. NRL has already started negotiations on its next Rights' deal; & is also involved in "secret" negotiations with Amazon, Facebook & Google to create more bidders.

. ARLC Chairman P. V'landys is seen as an "outsider" by NRL officials; & displeased them when he, inilaterally, said publicly Perth was not a contender for expansion.

. V'landys wants NRL CEO Greenberg out- supposedly to transfer to his job!

. V'landys had publicly, in his Press Conference, brashly " ...promised a better result" on the current $1.8 billion Rights' deal

 

[workhorse]

Trouble for Macarthur FC before it has even started

https://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/mac...-action-over-axing-of-football-director-stead

 

[Our Game]

Good turnout for one of the few pool games with fairly appropriate scheduling (would've been better off in Hobart but not by much).

Most of the AFLW matches are getting the same or more than the International Womens T20 cricket!

 

[RedV3x]

If the Tas government is spending $60m to get a team in a league that would be lucky to have $20M in annual revenue,

So in only three years, that's 3x $20 million = $ 60 million. That's simple maths not rocket science.
I'm glad you're not tourism minister.

 

[Kwality]

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business/media/nine-chief-backs-foxtel-in-battle-for-rugby-rights/news-story/874114e17dbaabf55d837dd2c24af555

Nine Entertainment boss Hugh Marks says sport groups must come to grips about the true value of their broadcast rights ..... cut big sporting events and movies from its cost intensive free-to-air television business, said the challenge all of them face is ‘‘understanding how the mix of rights might work for them, and who’s important to what the sport stands for’’.

“So I think the choices you make about whether you put certain products into certain areas whether it’s free-to-air TV, streaming, or pay per view, and subscription TV, all of those things have to be related to the first principle which is relevance and reach for your sport and we never take that for granted.”

 

[Kwality]

Interesting that CBS in the US is bleeding so much money. Not a good omen for Ch 10 here.

Research conducted by ViacomCBS — the owner of Network 10 in Australia — has found that while “people use TV to reduce stress … the amount of content available today is overwhelming”.

The research found 85 per cent of Australians surveyed wished they could access all their TV through one service. Christian Kurz, ViacomCBS’s Global Consumer Insights chief, said TV lovers in Australia and globally crave a simpler experience.

“People are overwhelmed with the amount of ways they get to those different pieces of content,” Mr Kurz said.

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[Gigantor]

Research conducted by ViacomCBS — the owner of Network 10 in Australia — has found that while “people use TV to reduce stress … the amount of content available today is overwhelming”.

The research found 85 per cent of Australians surveyed wished they could access all their TV through one service. Christian Kurz, ViacomCBS’s Global Consumer Insights chief, said TV lovers in Australia and globally crave a simpler experience.

“People are overwhelmed with the amount of ways they get to those different pieces of content,” Mr Kurz said.

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I think we can all relate with that, and maybe that's the direction Fox needs to take to remain relevant, try and get it all on its platform, so everything is in the same place - without the price going up.

 

[Kwality]

I think we can all relate with that, and maybe that's the direction Fox needs to take to remain relevant, try and get it all on its platform, so everything is in the same place - without the price going up.

I understand people want everything cheaper, someone has to pick up the tab, as RA is finding.

 

[NoobPie]

So in only three years, that's 3x $20 million = $ 60 million. That's simple maths not rocket science.
I'm glad you're not tourism minister.

I suspect you have misunderstood me, sir, and have subsequently overacted as is your want

If the privately owned NBL which has $20M in annual revenues (nationally) gets $60M spent on it to entice a franchise, what might the government spend to attract an AFL club in to a league that has over $1.5B in revenues?

 

[Kwality]

The BBL coverage:
.....about working with Cricket Australia on BBL [Big Bash League] going forward, and maybe revamping what that’s going to be. Are we likely to see some big changes?

James Warburton (7): So look, Cricket Australia have been a great partner. We’re working with them in relation to the season. And we’ve got some thoughts around what worked, what didn’t. It was obviously a very long season and it went into the Australian Open timeframe. 14 Australian players need to play. So we’ve got some very clear delineation. Things like the IPL [Indian Premier League] are six weeks. So compressing the season, playing it out over the summer – so we’ve got some very, very strong thoughts which we have shared and continue to share with Cricket Australia and Foxtel, because obviously we simulcast with Foxtel, so obviously continue to have dialogue with [Foxtel CEO] Patrick Delany about what we want to see and bringing the entertainment back to the schedule.

In AFL world there seems to be a view that more is better, with Mr Warburton in charge at 7 will that thinking be challenged? Hard to believe 7 & Fox wont be asking the question.

 

[RedV3x]

In AFL world there seems to be a view that more is better, with Mr Warburton in charge at 7 will that thinking be challenged? Hard to believe 7 & Fox wont be asking the question.

Always an appropiate question to ask w.r.t. coverage.
We have seen cricket go from nearly dying with test cricket to a confusing array of formats and schedules.
In Super rugby, RA thought more is better and introduced to new teams which was two teams too many.
The NRL is strong with a set season and a S.O.O. series but other dalliances seem to have fallen flat.
The AFL has a slightly shorter season than the NRL which I.M.O. is optimum.
There is a huge demand for each and every AFL game and it is just a question of which media.
When the AFL undertake something different like I.R., S.O.O. , Brownlow or the draft ,it is well received but not AFLX.
AFLW has been an outstanding success. it is significantly different to AFL as not to dilute the product.
In fact, AFLW is a very good lead-in to the AFL .

 

[Our Game]

The Murdoch rag The Australian is running the line ATM that Optus has got the RU deal and they predict it will be a disaster for Rugby = sour grapes much?

 

[Kwality]

The Daily Telegraph can reveal that three weeks after putting their broadcast package to the open market, RA has not had a single offer.

 

[BringBackTorps]

1. NRL.Com 5.3.20

Some interesting Qld. RL "registered" nos.

2016 Brisbane 11355, Western Corridor (Ipswich Logan Toowoomba) 15733, Redcliffe (far nthn Brisbane/Moreton Bay) 2840
2026 forecast regd. RL nos.
Brisbane 13054, Western Corridor 19075, Redcliffe 3452

It appears inconceivable that the Western Corridor could have more regd. RL players than Brisbane (pop. 2.3m)!
Can anyone explain this?

Are they club only- or do they include school competition players?

Are they jnr & snr club RL players also?

And do these figures include non-contact touch & tag competition players?

Immortal blessing: Why Beetson backed Western Corridor NRL bid

Participation numbers a key strength of Western Corridor NRL bid

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2. The NSWRL 2018 official regd. nos. claimed NSW had passed 100,000 for the first time.
Nationally, "...with 36900 playing Rugby League for the first time": a telling statement, implying many are touch & tag.
Then ARLC Chairman P. Beattie said in 2018 " It is immensely pleasing to see that rugby league is bucking the trend of declining participation rates".

Also it has been reported there are 16,000+ female RL players, nation-wide, in 2018.

These figures include male & female touch & tag players.

Rugby league participation up in 2018

Rugby League participation grew more than 3.5% in 2018 with 36,900 people playing rugby league for the first time.

www.nrl.com

This Daily Telegraph 2018 article below says that, in 2018 in NSW, c. 4500 girls played in a NSW RL comp. This is an impressive no., as I believe it was female tackle RL)

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This 2018 article says that, of the 100,00+ regd. RL players in NSW, c. 60,000 are in the country CRL comps., & c.40,000 in the Sydney comp.

Country Rugby League release playing figures for 2018 season

"There is often doom and gloom associated with regional participation statistics."

www.portnews.com.au

 

[jatz14]

I suspect you have misunderstood me, sir, and have subsequently overacted as is your want

If the privately owned NBL which has $20M in annual revenues (nationally) gets $60M spent on it to entice a franchise, what might the government spend to attract an AFL club in to a league that has over $1.5B in revenues?

If they're offering 4.5 billion, give them a team now.

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[NoobPie]

If they're offering 4.5 billion, give them a team now.

On moto g(6) plus using BigFooty.com mobile app

One in the north as well as the south

 

[Kwality]

Queensland great Billy Slater* has questioned whether there are enough quality players to support the introduction of a second NRL team in Brisbane.

Talent not there to sustain second NRL team in Brisbane, says Billy Slater

Queensland great Billy Slater has questioned whether there are enough quality players to support the introduction of a second NRL team in Brisbane.

www.sportingnews.com

Whilst the bigger question for League is expansion/a 2nd team for Brisbane, is there the depth?

* Cameron Smith is on the same page
LEGENDS WORRY TALENT POOL WON’T SUSTAIN 17 TEAMS
Two of Queensland’s greatest rugby league players have shot down the push for a second Brisbane team, issuing a chilling warning to ARL Commission chairman Peter V’landys.

 

[Kwality]

Something has gone right in NRL land:

Australian rock icon Jimmy Barnes is standing in the rubble of the old Sydney Football Stadium with a decade of rugby league grand finals swirling around him.
This is the first look at Fox League’s dynamic new television promotion to launch the 2020 NRL season by celebrating some of the game’s most memorable narratives.
The advertisement begins amid the ruins and the dust of the famous Moore Park venue with a twisted pylon beaming an image of the face of the original Simply The Best television campaign, Tina Turner.
Jimmy belts out Tina Turner's classic.
As Barnes belts out his own version of the famous rugby league anthem, all the great grand final moments of the last 30 years dance out of the dust at the old SFS.

Barnesy rocks Simply the Best | Fox Sports Videos

NRL: Jimmy Barnes belts out Simply the Best on the ruins of the Sydney Football Stadium in the new Fox League advertisement.

www.foxsports.com.au

note to the music critics: Jimmy is a working class hero, Tina is simply the best