2020 Non-Crows AFL Discussion

[TubbsFarquhar]

Hendo looks cooked, as does Scully. No wonder why the Hawks got him for peanuts. His ankle injury has absolutely stuffed him.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

I got bored and stopped watching just before half time.

I made it to half time... just.

 

[Mutineer]

Nice to see Will Day start well.

Family travels well though, no chance we see him back.

Yep was always going to be a player with his composure and skill set.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

No one is going to give this year's "premiership" any legitimacy anyway. It's a glorified lightning carnival.

Just don't tell our players it's a glorified AFLX or we may start winning...

 

[Tex200]

Yep was always going to be a player with his composure and skill set.

Do recall you were all over him.

So much talent out of SA recently - we’ve got zip out of it

 

[SaltPeter]

Yep was always going to be a player with his composure and skill set.

Do recall you were all over him.

So much talent out of SA recently - we’ve got zip out of it

Didn't realise until last night that his grandfather played for Hawthorn

 

[footy4ever]

Aaah **** off Whately. So brave of these overpaid entitled sooks.

People earning a tenth of their pay are doing far more courageous and onerous things in this CV19 climate.

You’ve turned into a simpering hack. And it’s disgusting, the boner you get for anything Victorian, regardlesss of how underwhelming it is.

 

[MatthewB]

Aaah fu** off Whately. So brave of these overpaid entitled sooks.

People earning a tenth of their pay are doing far more courageous and onerous things in this CV19 climate.

You’ve turned into a simpering hack. And it’s disgusting, the boner you get for anything Victorian, regardlesss of how underwhelming it is.

He is copping it in the comments

 

[chazwazza]

I'm finding it tough to watch footy at the moment. Feels like preseason games. Not sure if it's because we're struggling so much or just the whole situation

Windies are 2/108 after bowling England out for 204

I haven’t watched an entire half of AFL this season, if I’ve watched an entire 1/4 it’s been with no interest and it’s been on in the background.
A survey of people’s interest and viewing would be very interesting.

 

[hey shorty]

Do recall you were all over him.

So much talent out of SA recently - we’ve got zip out of it

Not sure that's quite correct.....

 

[Tex200]

Not sure that's quite correct.....

What elite SA talent have we brought in 2018/19? Schoenberg? Very big wait and see.

 

[hey shorty]

What elite SA talent have we brought in 2018/19? Schoenberg? Very big wait and see.

Ohhhh I was going back the year before, carry on.

 

[BACCS]

 

[Mutineer]

Didn't realise until last night that his grandfather played for Hawthorn

Robert Day was an absolute gun in the day for Westies, SA and the Hawks

 

[GreyCrow]

I'm finding it tough to watch footy at the moment. Feels like preseason games. Not sure if it's because we're struggling so much or just the whole situation

I got bored and stopped watching just before half time.

I can’t think of a match I’ve seen this season that I can remember 2 days later. There’s no real sense of who’s flying or who’s not. Games feel like there’s no context.

I haven’t watched an entire half of AFL this season, if I’ve watched an entire 1/4 it’s been with no interest and it’s been on in the background.
A survey of people’s interest and viewing would be very interesting.

Ugly football: Could broadcasters be the source of AFL's image problem?

Watch AFL on television and you could see a completely different game to the one you'd see live. Russell Jackson analyses whether it could be what's broadcast that changes our view.

www.abc.net.au

This week, under the condition of anonymity, I asked AFL coaches and team analysts a simple question: would they be able to understand a game of modern AFL football from the television broadcast alone?

Their blunt answers of "no" gave way to detailed observations that painted a picture of AFL broadcasting as something closer to a coaching fraternity in-joke.

The outline of grievances is simple enough:

• The tactical battle can now only be truly understood with vision from behind the goals, an angle from which the home viewer rarely sees anything other than replays of goals or reportable incidents
• How a team sets up at a stoppage is crucial to the outcome of the contest but a total mystery on TV
• There are too many lingering close-ups that serve no purpose other than to familiarise viewers with players' haircuts and tattoos, and obscure what is really happening in the game
• When the game slows down and the ball carrier is launching a transition of play, home viewers rarely, if ever, see the options available to him
• Some of these gaps in knowledge could be overcome if commentators explained tactical scenarios or anticipated the decision-making of players, but they rarely offer anything other than a description of what has already occurred.

 

[Tex200]

Ohhhh I was going back the year before, carry on.

Sorry I did say recently in original post so I guess you were lining up Fog for 2017.

 

[chazwazza]

Ugly football: Could broadcasters be the source of AFL's image problem?

Watch AFL on television and you could see a completely different game to the one you'd see live. Russell Jackson analyses whether it could be what's broadcast that changes our view.

www.abc.net.au

This week, under the condition of anonymity, I asked AFL coaches and team analysts a simple question: would they be able to understand a game of modern AFL football from the television broadcast alone?

Their blunt answers of "no" gave way to detailed observations that painted a picture of AFL broadcasting as something closer to a coaching fraternity in-joke.

The outline of grievances is simple enough:

• The tactical battle can now only be truly understood with vision from behind the goals, an angle from which the home viewer rarely sees anything other than replays of goals or reportable incidents
• How a team sets up at a stoppage is crucial to the outcome of the contest but a total mystery on TV
• There are too many lingering close-ups that serve no purpose other than to familiarise viewers with players' haircuts and tattoos, and obscure what is really happening in the game
• When the game slows down and the ball carrier is launching a transition of play, home viewers rarely, if ever, see the options available to him
• Some of these gaps in knowledge could be overcome if commentators explained tactical scenarios or anticipated the decision-making of players, but they rarely offer anything other than a description of what has already occurred.

Read that this morning too. It makes some good points but there’s a bigger problem with the comp

 

[hey shorty]

Sorry I did say recently in original post so I guess you were lining up Fog for 2017.

Hopefully Moose too

 

[Squiba]

Ugly football: Could broadcasters be the source of AFL's image problem?

Watch AFL on television and you could see a completely different game to the one you'd see live. Russell Jackson analyses whether it could be what's broadcast that changes our view.

www.abc.net.au

This week, under the condition of anonymity, I asked AFL coaches and team analysts a simple question: would they be able to understand a game of modern AFL football from the television broadcast alone?

Their blunt answers of "no" gave way to detailed observations that painted a picture of AFL broadcasting as something closer to a coaching fraternity in-joke.

The outline of grievances is simple enough:

• The tactical battle can now only be truly understood with vision from behind the goals, an angle from which the home viewer rarely sees anything other than replays of goals or reportable incidents
• How a team sets up at a stoppage is crucial to the outcome of the contest but a total mystery on TV
• There are too many lingering close-ups that serve no purpose other than to familiarise viewers with players' haircuts and tattoos, and obscure what is really happening in the game
• When the game slows down and the ball carrier is launching a transition of play, home viewers rarely, if ever, see the options available to him
• Some of these gaps in knowledge could be overcome if commentators explained tactical scenarios or anticipated the decision-making of players, but they rarely offer anything other than a description of what has already occurred.

Absolutely correct. We have some absolutely brain-dead commentators taking the lead in the AFL. BT is literally heralded for being a buffoon, Jude Bolton can barely form a coherent sentence, Bruce's special comments are limited to repeating a players last name in progressively deeper tones of voice followed by "that was something special".

Carey and Dermott stand out like dogs balls because they actually provide some analysis. Yes, Dermott can lag behind the play a bit, but I'd take that over the absolute nothingness we get otherwise.

This is why I love going to the game. It's an entirely different experience. Assuming you have the eyesight, you can see the whole length of the ground and actually understand the game, rather than a zoomed in shot of a pack of players, followed by the ball getting belted out of the pack to, by the time the ball's in frame, another pack of players.

Unfortunately the AFL pander to absolute dingbats; the type that believe anything the accredited AFL media push, that don't see how intrinsically unfair the game has been administered for the last 15 years.

It really is hard to watch the current production of the game for an avid sports follower, not due to the game style, but the horrid standard of commentary and production.

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

Izaak Rankine playing today

 

[Scorpus]

I would love to see a 'press red for down the ground vision' button

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

I would love to see a 'press red for down the ground vision' button

Yep

Zoom back a bit should be easy enough. Give us a bit more perspective

And get angles from behind the player in possession more often

At least it would be good to try some new things

 

[Vader]

It's not really comparable with previous years though, given that the quarters are 20% shorter than for any previous season.

Add 20% to Hawthorn's score, and where does it leave last night's effort?

** Not shooting the messenger. I appreciate that you're just re-posting some garbage spouted by the media, with not a gnat's worth of analysis behind it.

 

[Vader]

Ugly football: Could broadcasters be the source of AFL's image problem?

Watch AFL on television and you could see a completely different game to the one you'd see live. Russell Jackson analyses whether it could be what's broadcast that changes our view.

www.abc.net.au

This week, under the condition of anonymity, I asked AFL coaches and team analysts a simple question: would they be able to understand a game of modern AFL football from the television broadcast alone?

Their blunt answers of "no" gave way to detailed observations that painted a picture of AFL broadcasting as something closer to a coaching fraternity in-joke.

The outline of grievances is simple enough:

• The tactical battle can now only be truly understood with vision from behind the goals, an angle from which the home viewer rarely sees anything other than replays of goals or reportable incidents
• How a team sets up at a stoppage is crucial to the outcome of the contest but a total mystery on TV
• There are too many lingering close-ups that serve no purpose other than to familiarise viewers with players' haircuts and tattoos, and obscure what is really happening in the game
• When the game slows down and the ball carrier is launching a transition of play, home viewers rarely, if ever, see the options available to him
• Some of these gaps in knowledge could be overcome if commentators explained tactical scenarios or anticipated the decision-making of players, but they rarely offer anything other than a description of what has already occurred.

I read part of the article, before giving up on it as a joke.

Yes, there are problems with the broadcasting, which makes it difficult to have a full understanding of what's going on at ground level. However, that's not why the game has become ugly and borderline unwatchable. One quick glance at the scoreboard is enough to demonstrate that the problems with the game's image have little to do with the broadcasting angles.

 

[GreyCrow]

I read part of the article, before giving up on it as a joke.

Yes, there are problems with the broadcasting, which makes it difficult to have a full understanding of what's going on at ground level. However, that's not why the game has become ugly and borderline unwatchable. One quick glance at the scoreboard is enough to demonstrate that the problems with the game's image have little to do with the broadcasting angles.

yeah but 20% shorter