Strategy 2021 Draft and Hypothetical pick trade proposals

[Strapping Young Lad]

Lol seriously can we just have a ban on posting things ol clickbait Kornes says…

none of it is interesting and it’s all designed to just stir people up.

Hodgey wants a new rule! Hodgey gets a new rule.

No more clickbait shit from Cornes in here.


Also:

Can we also threadban Rendell quotes. The bloke is senile.

Done

 

[H00t]

He's the lesser of the three players.

But age is on his side, so I think despite the above he's probably the one we should keep above all of them - unless we get a great offer of course.

Worps is the less talented of the 3. I think he ends up having a better career than JOM after both have hung up their boots. Saying that if a team is willing to give a pick inside 10-12 for him, I’d go for it.

Value of Tom is the interesting one for us. If we had to trade for him we wouldn’t want to part with a first rounder. Hopefully a team in their window will pay lots for him.

 

[Delecate Des]

SOLD. Take it and run.

Another idea
Wingard & Mitchell to the Tigers for
7, 16, 26 & 28?

Some really bat shit crazy ideas in this thread!!!

 

[tommyk72]

Look, it’s really this simple.

Darcy and Daicos for all intents and purposes are not in the draft. Sure they get aligned to a pick and selected by a club on the night of the draft and they get their head on the Telly, but the fact is that the picks/points required to attach them to their club is done well before draft night. They’re not going anywhere else.

I can’t believe this ridiculous argument still gets airtime here. Neither perspective is wrong.

 

[tommyk72]

Mitchell fit at least a too 10 pick. Composite HD output to the current market value - Saad, Shiell, etc.

What I think is interesting is if you start looking at it like commodity trading. We bought for pick 14 and are selling for pick 7 (if that happens). I think we could get an increased return on a few others too - Worpel, Howe, etc. but would make big losses on others (JOM, Wingard). Could maybe get some value in some of our talk forwards too.

 

[Blackhawk42]

I can’t believe this ridiculous argument still gets airtime here. Neither perspective is wrong.

One can be depending on the way it's been used.

For example, if we wanted pick 18 from Brisbane for Gunston, there seems to be people saying 'well that pick 18 becomes 20 on draft night so that's not quite enough'. That's where the value of the number is skewed because 20 would still be the 18th best openly available player, but people are getting too hung up on the specific number. In trade negotiations those two father/son picks at 1 and 2 can't effect the importance we place on a high draft pick we're trying to acquire, because it makes literally zero difference to who is available.

Anyway, it's been done to death. Moving on.

 

[Brant]

Value of Tom is the interesting one for us. If we had to trade for him we wouldn’t want to part with a first rounder. Hopefully a team in their window will pay lots for him.

I agree that value is different to each scenario, but not parting with a 1st in any trade for Mitchell isn't a real thing.

 

[TylerDurden]

He's pick 7 or GTFO.

 

[Toasted]

He's pick 7 or GTFO.

Spot on. You can’t win a game without the footy and this bloke has his hands on it more than anyone else. It’s blowing my mind that people think he’s worth anything less.

 

[TylerDurden]

Spot on. You can’t win a game without the footy and this bloke has his hands on it more than anyone else. It’s blowing my mind that people think he’s worth anything less.

Plus he's contracted, and they're going for another flag. Fk em.

 

[Centrewing]

One can be depending on the way it's been used.

For example, if we wanted pick 18 from Brisbane for Gunston, there seems to be people saying 'well that pick 18 becomes 20 on draft night so that's not quite enough'. That's where the value of the number is skewed because 20 would still be the 18th best openly available player, but people are getting too hung up on the specific number. In trade negotiations those two father/son picks at 1 and 2 can't effect the importance we place on a high draft pick we're trying to acquire, because it makes literally zero difference to who is available.

Anyway, it's been done to death. Moving on.

As long as it doesn’t go out past 20, for academy picks

 

[TylerDurden]

 

[perrdan86]

SOLD. Take it and run.

Another idea
Wingard & Mitchell to the Tigers for
7, 16, 26 & 28?

Worst suggestion of this offseason.. by quite some margin.

 

[NICE1]

He's pick 7 or GTFO.

Is he really? I think we severely overrate some of our players on here. Mitchell for pick 7 & 16? Worpel pick 10-12? Laughable.

I would be ropeable if our club paid 7 & 16 for 29 year old midfielder, that while extremely dominant as a ball winner and distributor, is still limited as a midfielder. He's not the complete package guys - not quick, not overly damaging and not capable of winning a game off his own boot.

Worpel still has a long way to go before he cements himself as one of the competitors better midfielder.

 

[perrdan86]

Is he really? I think we severely overrate some of our players on here. Mitchell for pick 7 & 16? Worpel pick 10-12? Laughable.

I would be ropeable if our club paid 7 & 16 for 29 year old midfielder, that while extremely dominant as a ball winner and distributor, is still limited as a midfielder. He's not the complete package guys - not quick, not overly damaging and not capable of winning a game off his own boot.

Worpel still has a long way to go before he cements himself as one of the competitors better midfielder.

Adam Saad netted pick 8 for the bombers...Adam Saad.

 

[theiaofseed]

Wouldn't he be picked up as a delisted free agent rather than be drafted?

 

[TylerDurden]

Adam Saad netted pick 8 for the bombers...Adam Saad.

Freo want pick 6 for Cerra.
Shiel netted GWS 2 x firsts. I mean, please.

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

I think we all know that Richmond would be pretty reluctant to handover 7 for Tom, and you only get one chance a year to improve your list considerably by going to the draft so I would imagine we will push hard for the best available pick, but if we really wanna make significant change we will probably accept less.

The counter point being, just how desperate are Richmond or any other suitor to gaining Tom ahead of other clubs as the finishing touch, and what do they offer to get it done?

I don’t know if I can see us turning our back on picks, and again, we just don’t know what Sam’s temperament is regarding the trade period.

 

[killerspud]

Mitchell fit at least a too 10 pick. Composite HD output to the current market value - Saad, Shiell, etc.

What I think is interesting is if you start looking at it like commodity trading. We bought for pick 14 and are selling for pick 7 (if that happens). I think we could get an increased return on a few others too - Worpel, Howe, etc. but would make big losses on others (JOM, Wingard). Could maybe get some value in some of our talk forwards too.

So you get a spec pick in the 50s get great coaching and development into him to turn him into a future top 20 pick???

 

[killerspud]

I think we all know that Richmond would be pretty reluctant to handover 7 for Tom, and you only get one chance a year to improve your list considerably by going to the draft so I would imagine we will push hard for the best available pick, but if we really wanna make significant change we will probably accept less.

The counter point being, just how desperate are Richmond or any other suitor to gaining Tom ahead of other clubs as the finishing touch, and what do they offer to get it done?

I don’t know if I can see us turning our back on picks, and again, we just don’t know what Sam’s temperament is regarding the trade period.

What we then need is multiple suitors

 

[theiaofseed]

I think we all know that Richmond would be pretty reluctant to handover 7 for Tom, and you only get one chance a year to improve your list considerably by going to the draft so I would imagine we will push hard for the best available pick, but if we really wanna make significant change we will probably accept less.

The counter point being, just how desperate are Richmond or any other suitor to gaining Tom ahead of other clubs as the finishing touch, and what do they offer to get it done?

I don’t know if I can see us turning our back on picks, and again, we just don’t know what Sam’s temperament is regarding the trade period.

Richmond need cap space,pick 12 for Mitchell is about right but if we chip in a few 100k than pick 7 becomes tempting for both parties. Port, Richmond, Brisbane could all use another midfielder.

 

[killerspud]

Is he really? I think we severely overrate some of our players on here. Mitchell for pick 7 & 16? Worpel pick 10-12? Laughable.

I would be ropeable if our club paid 7 & 16 for 29 year old midfielder, that while extremely dominant as a ball winner and distributor, is still limited as a midfielder. He's not the complete package guys - not quick, not overly damaging and not capable of winning a game off his own boot.

Worpel still has a long way to go before he cements himself as one of the competitors better midfielder.

...if it wins you a flag...

 

[killerspud]

Richmond need cap space,pick 12 for Mitchell is about right but if we chip in a few 100k than pick 7 becomes tempting for both parties. Port, Richmond, Brisbane could all use another midfielder.

Especially to compete with the dees and dogs in the next 2 years - they both bat deep

 

[perrdan86]

Freo want pick 6 for Cerra.
Shiel netted GWS 2 x firsts. I mean, please.

Yeah apparently we're not just having end of season sales on club merchandise this year...50% off our best players as well.

 

[Mojo]

Tom's value lies, a lot, in the certainty of what he is and what a club would get. He's as sure as a nose on a face.

I imagine any premiership challenger would be looking at how he might fit in at their club.

 

[Hawk the Talk]

Players are worth what clubs are willing to pay for them, it’s as simple as that.

If Richmond think Mitchell well help them win another flag then they will give up either pick 7 or 15 + a second and a 3rd rounder.