Strategy 2021 Draft and Hypothetical pick trade proposals

[Strapping Young Lad]

Lol seriously can we just have a ban on posting things ol clickbait Kornes says…

none of it is interesting and it’s all designed to just stir people up.

Hodgey wants a new rule! Hodgey gets a new rule.

No more clickbait shit from Cornes in here.


Also:

Can we also threadban Rendell quotes. The bloke is senile.

Done

 

[Stratton24]

He might not have much of a choice if we don’t want to offer him a contract.

we do and have but he is seeing if he can get a higher paid longer contract elsewhere which is understandable at his age

 

[Lickmesocks]

He might not have much of a choice if we don’t want to offer him a contract.

Been in the system for a long time and would be expecting fairly decent coin. Not sure there will be many takers despite his spike in performance this season.

 

[Stratton24]

I'd pay a big chunk for 2 years if it gets us pick 7.

Richmond still can't afford it

 

[Bardo State]

Gold Coast is likely to make just three selections at the draft but comes into the trade period holding eight picks.

Hawthorn discussed ways to get Gold Coast’s Pick 3 but it now seems almost certain that will remain at the Suns. Their next two selections will be in the 60s, assuming pick 19 heads to North Melbourne in a Darcy MacPherson deal.

Rosas, MacPherson want to stay, Chol coming in. Something has to give.

 

[Guardian Hawk]

Is Darcy any good? Is he the pressure forward we are looking for?

Not really a pressure forward. Was good in 2019 as a 21 year old but has stagnated since (injuries have contributed).

Signed a lucrative 3 year deal in the middle of his good year which the Gold Coast are trying to get off their books.

Worth it for a pick upgrade as a salary dump and him coming good would be a bonus. Him wanting a longer deal (than matching the 1 year) is a smart play by him in the circumstances but is also risky (as he may end up staying without an extension and then gets delisted at the end of the year)

Depending on the deal (pick 3 in a swap, pick 19 outright) I'd be happy for us to do it but I reckon 2 years should be the max (can build in triggers for the third). List spots have value and 3 years is too long for a dump.

 

[Stratton24]

would do our future 2nd for McPherson and 19 - doubt AFL would approve our future 3rd instead of future 2nd

 

[butlers hawks]

would do our future 2nd for McPherson and 19 - doubt AFL would approve our future 3rd instead of future 2nd

wasn't it reported that was the deal with North? Future third?

 

[Pipe Hitter]

Gold Coast is likely to make just three selections at the draft but comes into the trade period holding eight picks.

Hawthorn discussed ways to get Gold Coast’s Pick 3 but it now seems almost certain that will remain at the Suns. Their next two selections will be in the 60s, assuming pick 19 heads to North Melbourne in a Darcy MacPherson deal.

Can't believe we aren't in MacPherson's ear. Give him the choice of North vs Hawks. Gold Coast want him out and we could easily jump on the pick 19 deal. So no reason why we can't get pick 19 instead. That would give us 4 picks in the top 25 and all we give up is some salary and a later pick. Pick 3 sounds like a non-start but pick 19 looks like it is going to be handed out for peanuts. That is the sort of pick we would get for Gunston.

 

[The Spirit of Cricket]

Can't believe we aren't in MacPherson's ear. Give him the choice of North vs Hawks. Gold Coast want him out and we could easily jump on the pick 19 deal. So no reason why we can't get pick 19 instead. That would give us 4 picks in the top 25 and all we give up is some salary and a later pick. Pick 3 sounds like a non-start but pick 19 looks like it is going to be handed out for peanuts. That is the sort of pick we would get for Gunston.

from all reports we are

 

[Stratton24]

wasn't it reported that was the deal with North? Future third?

AFL has to approve all deals so could not be pick 19 and a player for a future 3rd - but I guess you could throw in a future 5th/6th to even it up a bit

 

[Bugs1977]

Goddard has watched Tim play and thinks he is an intercept marking backman please.

if Tim could hold 3 out 4 marking attempts well then he could be that player but when he drops 3 out 4 he ain’t that player

Dude Timmy is un****inbelievable

 

[butlers hawks]

AFL has to approve all deals so could not be pick 19 and a player for a future 3rd - but I guess you could throw in a future 5th/6th to even it up a bit

is there actually a precedent of them knocking one back? If both teams and player are happy?

 

[blackheart]

It wouldn't have hurt Goddard and Cooney to have found other vocations after football.

 

[Stratton24]

is there actually a precedent of them knocking one back? If both teams and player are happy?

yes

we had a super deal knocked back in 2011 that would have got us a pre access draft pick - was knocked back because GWS had to trade them out but the deal would have got one given back to them

Collingwood wanted to trade Chris Mayne and a decent draft pick to North (or back to Freo) but were knocked back

 

[H00t]

is there actually a precedent of them knocking one back? If both teams and player are happy?

Pretty sure there was the deal with Mayne and a pick going to freo with nothing going back that the AFL said no to.

That wasn’t really a trade though. I feel this trade between suns and North might only go
through as the AFL wants it to happen. Will block other attempted deals most likely.

 

[Stratton24]

It wouldn't have hurt Goddard and Cooney to have found other vocations after football.

Hutchy is a smart business man - just picks up the cheapest option

 

[David C]

Hang on, so there's no difference in compo if the contract is $2m over 4 yrs vs $1m over 2 yrs?

Correct.

 

[Stratton24]

Pretty sure there was the deal with Mayne and a pick going to freo with nothing going back that the AFL said no to.

That wasn’t really a trade though. I feel this trade between suns and North might only go
through as the AFL wants it to happen. Will block other attempted deals most likely.

they didn't say no to Geelong trading 2019 pick 27 for Gold Coast 2020 pick 11 so it does depend on the clubs involved

 

[Ned Ryerson]

It wouldn't have hurt Goddard and Cooney to have found other vocations after football.

Goddard is still working on his screenplay for the drug saga I believe.

 

[grumbleguts]

They're holding out for Mundy. Might give Freo 6 of their youngest for him.

They probably do think like that. We'll give you two 23 year olds for a 46 year old. Or how about an 18 year old and a 19 year old for a 37 year old? We could do that.

Or how about we give up players aged 21, 23, 26 and 22 for two players aged 31 and a 30 year old.

 

[H00t]

they didn't say no to Geelong trading 2019 pick 27 for Gold Coast 2020 pick 11 so it does depend on the clubs involved

That was a ridiculous trade. AFL really should have stepped in stop the suns shooting themselves in the foot.

Though the did say yes to our trade with the Saints in 2016 that was also crazily weighted in the Saints favour.

 

[grumbleguts]

But when you get 2 hands on it with no spoil attempt near it and still drop it?

There is another later post addressing this.

 

[On Topic]

He might not have much of a choice if we don’t want to offer him a contract.

That is true. It's one of the reasons I wasn't fully trusting of the info.

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

 

[HODGEYROAD]

Wow this thread is going absolutely bonkers. So it seems Cegs, TOB and maybe Howe are likely to be on the move ?