How many times can they continue to do that for Fold Coast, the mutant love child of AFL exec PRD bonuses?
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It was the Suns playing the system not North.
Sure, but it came at the AFL's pets expense.
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which makes it all the more sweeter
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i have so many questions. i can't believe it happened. there are so many alternatives too. all to save what is it 180k in cap space. fmd.
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thinking about this more how ****in bad must things be up there. like i get theyve ****ed up, but the circumstances theyre in had to have pushed them down the path to where this event happens:
1) their cap is ****ed and they're desperate for even 180k of space. this is bad, real bad, especially when you consider the next two points,
2) how insecure are they that players wont be poached, that they've spoken to Greenwood and used him as their best available option, rather than someone else. if he's their best option, how bad is the good will amongst the rest of the playing group?
3) how bad is the commitment from the players to the club. they would have spoken to greenwood and his management. he would have given them a solid. only for him to turn around and bail for more cash. he's essentially stabbed them in the back! you can't tell me his management didnt have this up their sleeve.
to put this in comparison, we've had wilkie on the rookie list for 3 years. not once did i ever think he would leave. he would have had good offers too!!!
they're pretty much ****ed trying to keep any crop of draftees together.
dew's lost a best 22 mid. he's cooked before the season has even begun.
1) their cap is ****ed and they're desperate for even 180k of space. this is bad, real bad, especially when you consider the next two points,
2) how insecure are they that players wont be poached, that they've spoken to Greenwood and used him as their best available option, rather than someone else. if he's their best option, how bad is the good will amongst the rest of the playing group?
3) how bad is the commitment from the players to the club. they would have spoken to greenwood and his management. he would have given them a solid. only for him to turn around and bail for more cash. he's essentially stabbed them in the back! you can't tell me his management didnt have this up their sleeve.
to put this in comparison, we've had wilkie on the rookie list for 3 years. not once did i ever think he would leave. he would have had good offers too!!!
they're pretty much ****ed trying to keep any crop of draftees together.
dew's lost a best 22 mid. he's cooked before the season has even begun.
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Vlad's Spruce Goose. The good news is that Carlton and Gold Coast were expected to improve, both have started to go backwards before the season even started and Collingwood has had their own go at weakening themselves.
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What is this about them needing 180k in cap space?
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The difference between the senior list and the rookie list and why clubs are doing this because every rookie can earn a certain amount that is outside the cap. From memory around 180k.
Good start to the Bing acquisition campaign
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Gold Coast were going to redrafting him in the national draft. They had too many players contracted so without delisting then redrafting 2 players, they wouldnt have met the AFLs 3 player drafting requirement.
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rookie draft i thought
if it is purely list selections, that is seriously ****in bizarre, its even worse!
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WCE has two players holding out
This is a real question, and not having a go at anyone, but when you discovered the Dunning Kruger effect, did you get any exposure to Cipolla’s Five Laws of Stupidity or Deidrich Bonhoeffer’s Theory of Stupidity?
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It's a bizarre choice either way. They have a lot of no name, overpaid players who they could have used instead of one of their best mids.
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i just cant get my head around it. if there's no salary cap pressure, they had all year to move those pieces around.
i just cant deal. fmd.
it's not even bad, its horrendous.
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Dunny has gone to Melbourne and Krueger has left Geelong for Collingwood. I'm not sure what effect that will have but you don't need 5 laws to eat a chipolata.
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Just quietly North are assembling a good list of guys who should have cost them a lot more. Stephenson for chump change and Greenwood for free are great signings.
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I still can't believe Stephenson was shipped out of Collingwood. Absolute insanity.
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What an absolute shocker from Gold Coast. Their off-season has been beyond-words bad.
If that was the Saints I would legitimately cancel my membership. This is a club that desperately needs success too and needs to get things right. They've given away so many good players for free, also handed off pick 19 and probably would have gone about their whole trade period differently if they'd known they were losing Greenwood.
I heard an interview with their list-manager on the AFL draft podcast and thought he sounded incompetent. Looks like the vibe was real.
At least it means for now that no matter how bad we are there's another club that will no doubt be worse. Thank you Gold Coast.
If that was the Saints I would legitimately cancel my membership. This is a club that desperately needs success too and needs to get things right. They've given away so many good players for free, also handed off pick 19 and probably would have gone about their whole trade period differently if they'd known they were losing Greenwood.
I heard an interview with their list-manager on the AFL draft podcast and thought he sounded incompetent. Looks like the vibe was real.
At least it means for now that no matter how bad we are there's another club that will no doubt be worse. Thank you Gold Coast.
Did we ship Finnis up there on a rainbow float?
Well I’ve been complaining that this loophole stinks and needs to be closed. Ironically North have benefited both ways with this scheme by placing a disastrous Polec contract on the rookie list and now taking Greenwood.
If you de-list a player their salary should be paid out and coke of the cap... imagine if Sydney tried this with Franklin all of a sudden after that insane contract.
