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[WaynesWorld19]

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[Diverse]

Welcome back boys! Finished top 500 but still yet to crack that top 100.

Here's my first team draft (rookies are basically placeholders until R1)

Will probably play around with a Grundy/Gawn duo later.

 

[blueiris]

My only real worry I think is Witherden and Rooze but I believe I have 12 keepers 14 if Witherden and Rooze work

 

[A Bit Dusty]

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My only real worry I think is Witherden and Rooze but I believe I have 12 keepers 14 if Witherden and Rooze work

So many teams are going with Preuss now so many great looking teams with him there instead of Gawn or Grundy. I must resist temptation

 

[Diverse]

So many teams are going with Preuss now so many great looking teams with him there instead of Gawn or Grundy. I must resist temptation

After fiddling with the teams, I feel like Preuss is a bit of a risk. There are a lot of mid-range players at the moment who could take a spot or two from premos from other positions to have a Gawn/Grundy duo.

Guess we have to find out what he's going to be like during the prac games.

 

[Santoz]

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My only real worry I think is Witherden and Rooze but I believe I have 12 keepers 14 if Witherden and Rooze work

If you're not keen on Rozee may I recommend researching Stephenson as an alternative?

 

[blueiris]

If you're not keen on Rozee may I recommend researching Stephenson as an alternative?

I’m happy with Rooze just not sure he’s a keeper he’s rumoured to be playing midfield this season

 

[THECHIEFTON]

I reckon this is going to be close to my final team kentlemen.

Only spots I'm unsure of are Milera at D4 who could become Harmes and Heppell at M5 who could become Green or Hately.

I'm pretty set on locking the rest of the team in...

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Mines ended up similar structure. I've gone one more DEF rookie and made Atkins into a premo mid.

 

[Caztheconquerer]

On McDonald is anyone concerned about his role with a new coach coming in? Will he keep the seagull role or be used elsewhere. Also slightly concerned on Rowell as Gold Coast might be cautious with him and he may miss games due to resting. Thoughts on this?

 

[A Bit Dusty]

After fiddling with the teams, I feel like Preuss is a bit of a risk. There are a lot of mid-range players at the moment who could take a spot or two from premos from other positions to have a Gawn/Grundy duo.

Guess we have to find out what he's going to be like during the prac games.

I can have either Preuss/Taranto or Grundy/$117k Rookie it is tempting as Grundy could drop $50k even if he averages 115 early on. I also think that Preuss/Taranto could possibly average 200 between them where Grundy/$117k Rookie at best might be 180. Thoughts?

 

[pockets75]

Lloyd, Laird, Short, Zilliams, Harmes (das your ?), Oliver, Tracc, Walsh, Simpkin, Rowell, Cerra, Gawn, Marshall, Rozee (other ?). 14 listed there, I count Harmes and Rozee as I'm selecting them to be my D5/6 F5/6 and to each average 90-95. Probs not gonna run this team, not sold on Rozee in particular.

We must have different definitions of keeper from a Supercoach perspective. Top 10 in their respective position at a minimum would be mine. I count 9, at best, with your list. Happy to stand corrected.

 

[Andrew Birch]

We must have different definitions of keeper from a Supercoach perspective. Top 10 in their respective position at a minimum would be mine. I count 9, at best, with your list. Happy to stand corrected.

How often have you ended up with all of your Rd1 "keepers" finishing Top10 in their respective positions at the end of the year? I'm betting never.

 

[pockets75]

How often have you ended up with all of your Rd1 "keepers" finishing Top10 in their respective positions at the end of the year? I'm betting never.

That's my point. Just because you call them a keeper, doesn't make them a keeper. If players such as Cerra, Simpkin, Rozee and Harmes are still in your starting 22 at the end of the year, I would assume you have no chance of winning, as I can't see them averaging enough. They're stepping stones to the high end premiums.

 

[ImissFrosty]

That's my point. Just because you call them a keeper, doesn't make them a keeper. If players such as Cerra, Simpkin, Rozee and Harmes are still in your starting 22 at the end of the year, I would assume you have no chance of winning, as I can't see them averaging enough. They're stepping stones to the high end premiums.

All about where they finish though, impossible to start whoever you think will be top in their position, not enough rookies, need value elsewhere. If Rozee and Harmes are F6 and D6 thats worth. Simpkin and Cerra M5-8 who knows, ceiling is so high.

 

[A Bit Dusty]

All about where they finish though, impossible to start whoever you think will be top in their position, not enough rookies, need value elsewhere. If Rozee and Harmes are F6 and D6 thats worth. Simpkin and Cerra M5-8 who knows, ceiling is so high.

If your spending $500k you should be intending on keeping them not to upgrade if not find a cheaper option.

 

[pockets75]

All about where they finish though, impossible to start whoever you think will be top in their position, not enough rookies, need value elsewhere. If Rozee and Harmes are F6 and D6 thats worth. Simpkin and Cerra M5-8 who knows, ceiling is so high.

Good point. We all want our mid price picks to end up as premiums, and therefore keepers, but the reality is how many of them actually do? Not that many in each position, which makes it even harder to get them right. It's like all the teams with Daniher, Ziebell, and Impey in them. Very high risk with a very small chance of all of them paying off. Again, it's only my opinion and I'm happy to stand corrected.

 

[Andrewy]

Good point. We all want our mid price picks to end up as premiums, and therefore keepers, but the reality is how many of them actually do? Not that many in each position, which makes it even harder to get them right. It's like all the teams with Daniher, Ziebell, and Impey in them. Very high risk with a very small chance of all of them paying off. Again, it's only my opinion and I'm happy to stand corrected.

"all the teams with Daniher, Ziebell, and Impey in them"......I will take as starters over a fwd rookie at this stage....just saying.

 

[Andrew Birch]

That's my point. Just because you call them a keeper, doesn't make them a keeper. If players such as Cerra, Simpkin, Rozee and Harmes are still in your starting 22 at the end of the year, I would assume you have no chance of winning, as I can't see them averaging enough. They're stepping stones to the high end premiums.

So if you're not first you're last, eh? My "complete" team pretty much always looks rubbish with sub-premo's all over the place, yet I nearly always finish well inside the Top1% go figure.

 

[pockets75]

So if you're not first you're last, eh? My "complete" team pretty much always looks rubbish with sub-premo's all over the place, yet I nearly always finish well inside the Top1% go figure.

Top 1% can be ranked 3000 overall. And a long way behind a top 10 finish. If you're happy with that, good luck to you.

 

[pockets75]

"all the teams with Daniher, Ziebell, and Impey in them"......I will take as starters over a fwd rookie at this stage....just saying.

Definitely one, possibly two, but all three is very risky in my opinion. Especially if you have Williams, Rowell and one or two other players returning from injury. Risk reward I guess.

 

[Andrew Birch]

Top 1% can be ranked 3000 overall. And a long way behind a top 10 finish. If you're happy with that, good luck to you.

Excuse me, I wasn't aware that I was in the company of someone with such lofty standards. What year did you win sc or finish top10?

My last 3 seasons 558, 538 & 747 and every one of those teams started with at least 6 mid pricers and no more than 8-9 "keepers" by your definition. There's more than one way to play this game.

 

[Hai_Newman]

 

[VainGlorious]

Connor Rozee

1

Connor Rozee

Age

24

Ht

185cm

Wt

79kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.6

4star

K

7.6

3star

HB

7.0

4star

M

3.3

3star

T

3.6

5star

CL

1.0

3star

D

12.8

3star

K

7.4

3star

HB

5.3

3star

M

2.9

3star

T

2.4

3star

CL

1.6

4star

D

16.4

4star

K

8.0

3star

HB

8.4

5star

M

4.2

4star

T

3.4

5star

CL

0.8

3star

is a great ****ing footballer. I mean this bloke has the cleanest set of hands and is pure silk, any, ANY, club would be extremely lucky to have him on their list. A jet when he’s up and running.

Is he consistent yet, nup.

Is he SC relevant yet, nup, not for me.

Make no mistake though he’ll probably end up one of the best players from his draft class, and I’m a massive fan of Walsh, and also Bailey Smith

6

Bailey Smith

Age

23

Ht

185cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

18.3

5star

K

8.5

3star

HB

9.8

5star

M

2.3

2star

T

3.8

5star

CL

2.7

4star

D

19.8

5star

K

9.6

4star

HB

10.2

5star

M

1.8

2star

T

3.2

4star

CL

3.2

4star

D

14.8

4star

K

7.6

3star

HB

7.2

5star

M

2.0

3star

T

3.4

5star

CL

1.6

4star

, love him as a footballer but Rozee is a bit of a freak.

Rozee just doesn’t make it into the squad yet at that price.

 

[ImissFrosty]

Why are all midpricers risky? Every midpricer is a case by case basis, unfair to clump them all together, some are coming back from injury, bad form, new club, new role, changing rules, fixture, price.
I don't think that Ziebell, Daniher and Impey are very risky at all.
Ziebell- Coming back from injury but hardly missed before last year. Tick on scoring, role a small ? but if he's off hb he should score pretty well. Good price.

Daniher- Injury risk but hasn't missed a session and the lions fitness staff are incredible so back him in on that front. We know his scoring potential, absolute bargain.

Impey- As safe a midpricer as you can get. Came off LTI and is fully recovered so unless you think he'll do a knee again he's fine injury wise. Scoring wise, went on that great run in mid 2019 playing off a hbf, seems to be in that role again. If he's playing forward or wing he should stil make a cool $100-150k.

 

[WaynesWorld19]

Why are all midpricers risky? Every midpricer is a case by case basis, unfair to clump them all together, some are coming back from injury, bad form, new club, new role, changing rules, fixture, price.
I don't think that Ziebell, Daniher and Impey are very risky at all.
Ziebell- Coming back from injury but hardly missed before last year. Tick on scoring, role a small ? but if he's off hb he should score pretty well. Good price.

Daniher- Injury risk but hasn't missed a session and the lions fitness staff are incredible so back him in on that front. We know his scoring potential, absolute bargain.

Impey- As safe a midpricer as you can get. Came off LTI and is fully recovered so unless you think he'll do a knee again he's fine injury wise. Scoring wise, went on that great run in mid 2019 playing off a hbf, seems to be in that role again. If he's playing forward or wing he should stil make a cool $100-150k.

Petracca was a mid-pricer last season ...... 2 seasons ago Marshall was the very definition of mid-pricer

Ridley last year ?

What we're looking for are the "breakout" players .....but also the fallen premo, coming back from injury
Some will rebound, some won't .....and they will become stepping stones, or traded down to Rookies as they sprout shoots

None of us really know who will blossom, and who will wither away ......we keep flexible & try and make good judgements & trades .....the latter is what this game is about

 

[Andrew Birch]

Petracca was a mid-pricer last season ...... 2 seasons ago Marshall was the very definition of mid-pricer

Ridley last year ?

What we're looking for are the "breakout" player .....but also the fallen premo, coming back from injury
Some will rebound, some won't .....and they will become stepping stones, or traded down to Rookies as they sprout shoots

None of us really know who will blossom, and who will wither away ......we keep flexible & try and make good judgements & trades .....the latter is what this game is about

I concur WW. Rd1 teams are just a starting point. They do not define how your season will pan out. It's not imperative that you nail every starting pick.