Trades 2021 Round 4 Fantasy Trades

[mehow2g]

I love my team just need an opinion.

Not enjoying having Duggan/Clark but they're not bleeding cash just to gain more points so Duggan to Ridley or Clark to Cumming.

Or do I get a lower pricer to fill my F6(Rowe) is currently there I was thinking Warner/Frederik.

 

[TedDougChris]

Only issue with the VC Loop is timing. You need a VC to play before your Loop Captain. If Saints get Sunday slots it'll work well.

This was my problem last week. My only confirmed out was Berry - but we had the axe hanging of Kosi, Idun, Highmore as well - so I couldn't (C) him - as I hadn't seen my VC score and hadn't got teams for the other games until I'd had to make my trades.

 

[Jessbek]

Easy ones this week, played around with fielding Flynn but at the end of the day I'll need the big guys R1 and R2 anyway so might as well do it while it's an easy get-

Witts > Gawn
Brodie > Waterman

Left Robertson for one more week to help confirm JS and will likely need to do another rookie swap with Sharp. Fine to lose a bit of cash to allow one more week to determine the best options there

 

[HolyRioli]

Young -> Parks

J Clark jettisoned into the Sun. Welcome Tex

 

[danziggy]

Which out of D Robertson and C Warner do we think has higher JS? Leaning towards Robertson for DPP but its looking like Bris has a few set to return this week that could bump him out.

 

[TedDougChris]

Which out of D Robertson and C Warner do we think has higher JS? Leaning towards Robertson for DPP but its looking like Bris has a few set to return this week that could bump him out.

In terms of JS - it's Warner by a considerable distance. He and the other rookie/younger Swans may get rested as the year goes on - but they are basically best 22 if the Swans are serious about rebuilding.

Robertson is a talented kid, from what we have seen - but he's fringe 22 in a potential top 4 side. He may not get the game time - but he will kick the door down in the coming year or so.

 

[danziggy]

In terms of JS - it's Warner by a considerable distance. He and the other rookie/younger Swans may get rested as the year goes on - but they are basically best 22 if the Swans are serious about rebuilding.

Robertson is a talented kid, from what we have seen - but he's fringe 22 in a potential top 4 side. He may not get the game time - but he will kick the door down in the coming year or so.

Yeah I was leaning more towards Warner too for JS. Have enough to replace Witts and a spud forward with Grundy and one of Robertson and Warner, so i think Warner looks the best bet at the moment

 

[TedDougChris]

Yeah I was leaning more towards Warner too for JS. Have enough to replace Witts and a spud forward with Grundy and one of Robertson and Warner, so i think Warner looks the best bet at the moment

No guarantee Robertson gets a game this weekend even.

 

[happy_eagle]

No guarantee Robertson gets a game this weekend even.

If he survives with J.Berry back in the signs are a little more positive as they both play the same position.

 

[TedDougChris]

If he survives with J.Berry back in the signs are a little more positive as they both play the same position.

Agreed.

 

[JDWCE]

If he survives with J.Berry back in the signs are a little more positive as they both play the same position.

Agreed.

Wonder what it means for his role though if Berry is back. Had a fruitful scoring position last week but could be shifted forward?

 

[TedDougChris]

Wonder what it means for his role though if Berry is back. Had a fruitful scoring position last week but could be shifted forward?

I'd imagine he'd rotate through, as seems to be the case for most mids and forwards - but potentially with less time on ball. He might not hit 80 - 90 again, but he might be getting 60/70's. He generates cash compared to current price IMO.

 

[Shadow89]

It might be worth throwing a flag in the Essendon players this week.
Swans haven't given up many fantasy tonnes. They must be one of the hardest to score against this year as the scoring from the other team looks miserable and drops off really quickly.
Their opponents:
Brissie - 0 tonnes;
Crows - 1 tonne (Tex);
Richmond - 0 tonnes.

I might leave this week as Ridley/Hind's final auditions to get into my side.

Spot on. Backman do even worse, as they've just been scoring goals, rather than letting it live in the defensive end. It's why I'm giving Ridley a week myself

 

[Neale4brownlow]

Spot on. Backman do even worse, as they've just been scoring goals, rather than letting it live in the defensive end. It's why I'm giving Ridley a week myself

Too right. The max from defenders:

Brissie - Rich a 95 then next best is Birchall on 49.
Crows - Doedee 74
Tigers - Short 90, Broad 70.

So by that logic, Ridley maybe 85-95. Hind 70-95.

 

[Cotchy9]

Too right. The max from defenders:

Brissie - Rich a 95 then next best is Birchall on 49.
Crows - Doedee 74
Tigers - Short 90, Broad 70.

So by that logic, Ridley maybe 85-95. Hind 70-95.

Good summation there. I guess with Hind the fact he has a 31 BE makes him a good pick anyway, because even with a 70 he’s rising 25k or so. A 90 he’s rising 35-40k

 

[kozi]

The guy who won it last year just wrote a great article on DT talk with some very sage advice. Reaffirmed much of my usual trading strategy which has been partly lost with all the mid priced madness of late.

- Mid pricers stuck on no man’s land are first priority to move on. De Goey, Clark etc
- Don’t bring in more mid pricers that will just require more trades later on - Cumming etc
- Trade in keepers & rooks almost exclusively

It’s pretty simple and fundamentally correct. Ultimately he puts a line through the stockmarket game of chasing those mid pricers with low BE’s - people forget about the 2nd part of being tied to future trades. Essentially the goal is finishing your team with keepers faster than everyone else, not chasing the short term points and price increases.

Direct example which I found for me this week: While I still think Tex is a good option, I’ve gone with Hind instead who I missed. Hind I can see becoming a F6 keeper and will hopefully not require a future trade. Whilst Tex likely scores and gains more $ in the next 2 weeks, you’re locking yourself into future trade/s when he inevitably needs to be moved on. Trades that could be used for upgrading elsewhere if you already managed to secure a keeper there in the first place.

 

[Neale4brownlow]

The guy who won it last year just wrote a great article on DT talk with some very sage advice. Reaffirmed much of my usual trading strategy which has been partly lost with all the mid priced madness of late.

- Mid pricers stuck on no man’s land are first priority to move on. De Goey, Clark etc
- Don’t bring in more mid pricers that will just require more trades later on - Cumming etc
- Trade in keepers & rooks almost exclusively

It’s pretty simple and fundamentally correct. Ultimately he puts a line through the stockmarket game of chasing those mid pricers with low BE’s - people forget about the 2nd part of being tied to future trades. Essentially the goal is finishing your team with keepers faster than everyone else, not chasing the short term points and price increases.

Direct example which I found for me this week: While I still think Tex is a good option, I’ve gone with Hind instead who I missed. Hind I can see becoming a F6 keeper and will hopefully not require a future trade. Whilst Tex likely scoes and gains more $ in the next 2 weeks, you’re locking yourself into future trade/s when he inevitably needs to be moved on. Trades that could be used for upgrading elsewhere if you already managed to secure a keeper there in the first place.

Yeah I found that really good advice too and kept me on my merry way.
I took a fair few midpricers to start so just cleaning them all out atm from worst to best. Rookies and premos is the best way from now. Any mid pricers that look good now can instantly look bad next week with a single bad performance.

 

[kozi]

Yeah I found that really good advice too and kept me on my merry way.
I took a fair few midpricers to start so just cleaning them all out atm from worst to best. Rookies and premos is the best way from now. Any mid pricers that look good now can instantly look bad next week with a single bad performance.

Issue this season is there’s bugger all mid pricers that look like actually turning into keepers. Whilst we were forced into mid priced madness in our starting squads the same thinking shouldn’t apply to in season trading. I think those playing the mid price stockmarket game will be paddling in the same place for longer than they intend.

 

[joedanihermademecry]

Urgh lads I'm really stuck between a couple of options and could really do with some thoughts!

I've been hit by the Witts/Young double and can't see a path to get both out this week AND get Witts to Gawn (I already own Grundy). Because I don't trust Highmore and Kosi to cover Young, I see him as must trade this week. Flynn can cover as R2 for the week. So:

1) Young to Chapman; Kosi to Burgess.
This seems to be relatively safe. It nets about 100k and I think Chapman has decent JS and can match Young's output, while generating cash. I'm pretty meh about the Kosi to Burgess trade. I'd have enough cash to then upgrade Witts to Marshall next week... but again not to Gawn.

2) Witts to Hickey; Young to Cumming/Chapman.
I feel particularly meh about this. I really don't love the Witts to Hickey move, but if I do this and the Young to Chapman I have about $250k to get some upgrades going next week.

3) Young to Chapman; JDG to Waterman/Robertson.
This would give me $475k for a double upgrade next week. So Witts to Gawn and maybe like a Stephenson to a Zorko or something. I guess if Highmore/Kosi is named, I could just do Witts to Gawn this week and keep Young on the bench.

Any advice would be much appreciated!

 

[Thetrader15]

Yeah I found that really good advice too and kept me on my merry way.
I took a fair few midpricers to start so just cleaning them all out atm from worst to best. Rookies and premos is the best way from now. Any mid pricers that look good now can instantly look bad next week with a single bad performance.

I'd ask though, who are the premo mids who are scoring like premo mids we should be targeting? Guthrie, Macrae...???

 

[Rion]

Urgh lads I'm really stuck between a couple of options and could really do with some thoughts!

I've been hit by the Witts/Young double and can't see a path to get both out this week AND get Witts to Gawn (I already own Grundy). Because I don't trust Highmore and Kosi to cover Young, I see him as must trade this week. Flynn can cover as R2 for the week. So:

1) Young to Chapman; Kosi to Burgess.
This seems to be relatively safe. It nets about 100k and I think Chapman has decent JS and can match Young's output, while generating cash. I'm pretty meh about the Kosi to Burgess trade. I'd have enough cash to then upgrade Witts to Marshall next week... but again not to Gawn.

2) Witts to Hickey; Young to Cumming/Chapman.
I feel particularly meh about this. I really don't love the Witts to Hickey move, but if I do this and the Young to Chapman I have about $250k to get some upgrades going next week.

3) Young to Chapman; JDG to Waterman/Robertson.
This would give me $475k for a double upgrade next week. So Witts to Gawn and maybe like a Stephenson to a Zorko or something. I guess if Highmore/Kosi is named, I could just do Witts to Gawn this week and keep Young on the bench.

Any advice would be much appreciated!

Hard to know without seeing your team but if you do have another rookie ruck around I'd just whack Flynn on field permanently, trade Young to a rookie (Robertson ideally if you can get him somehow) and shift Witts to a Ridley/Mills type.

Mills + Flynn outscore Gawn + Chapman for mine and it saves like 200k cash.

 

[Neale4brownlow]

I'd ask though, who are the premo mids who are scoring like premo mids we should be targeting? Guthrie, Macrae...???

Yeah no idea atm. I'm waiting as long as possible on that front as no one ourside of Macrae has been particularly consistent. I'll never pick Guthrie, he scores fine but I'll never consider him an elite footballer so just can't pick him based off that. I always think of him as that 70-80 average player.

I've got Macrae/Merrett/Gaff/Taranto holding down M1-4 for now.
Titchell the only one I'd 100% lock to come in at some point soon.
In the mix and waiting for them to bottom or show form include: Treloar, Adams, Steele, Duncan, Neale, Oliver. That's probably my complete watchlist of "uber premo mids" atm. That's not to say thats who I'll end up grabbing, a lot comes down to value at the time.

Titchell/Treloar are the two I'm thinking of adding in the next 3-4weeks (Titch sooner rather than later). Particularly when Gulden rotates forward it opens up a fwd spot and Titch/Treloar are both value for their potential outputs.

 

[perplexed]

Urgh lads I'm really stuck between a couple of options and could really do with some thoughts!

I've been hit by the Witts/Young double and can't see a path to get both out this week AND get Witts to Gawn (I already own Grundy). Because I don't trust Highmore and Kosi to cover Young, I see him as must trade this week. Flynn can cover as R2 for the week. So:

1) Young to Chapman; Kosi to Burgess.
This seems to be relatively safe. It nets about 100k and I think Chapman has decent JS and can match Young's output, while generating cash. I'm pretty meh about the Kosi to Burgess trade. I'd have enough cash to then upgrade Witts to Marshall next week... but again not to Gawn.

2) Witts to Hickey; Young to Cumming/Chapman.
I feel particularly meh about this. I really don't love the Witts to Hickey move, but if I do this and the Young to Chapman I have about $250k to get some upgrades going next week.

3) Young to Chapman; JDG to Waterman/Robertson.
This would give me $475k for a double upgrade next week. So Witts to Gawn and maybe like a Stephenson to a Zorko or something. I guess if Highmore/Kosi is named, I could just do Witts to Gawn this week and keep Young on the bench.

Any advice would be much appreciated!

Why the rush to get Gawn? Flynn is one of the safest rookies to field.
Better would be Witts to rookie ruck, Treacy if named. Young to any premo.

 

[Gunf]

Seriously tempted to Get Sloane in this week.

Options at the moment are

1. Get Sloane (has North this week) could be big
2. Get a cheaper player like Robertson or Burgess

 

[Cotchy9]

Whilst Hind is classed as a mid pricer atm, I believe like a few on here that he’s a keeper

Cumming probably still has 150k to make imo and will be an easy trade to say a Tom Stewart type in 4-5 weeks. If you trade in say Burgess over Cumming, it’s the same net trades so far, and Burgess will likely require a downgrade elsewhere to get up to a premo where Cumminh and change will get you a premium soon