Player Watch 2022 AFL National Draft Discussion - read the pinned post

[Strapping Young Lad]

National AFL draft Monday November 28(first round only).
All other selections to be held on Tuesday November 29.
The pre-season and rookie drafts will then take place at 3pm (AEST) on Wednesday November 30.

 

[Hawk the Talk]

I really think flying Phillipou and his Dad in has more to do with making sure the personality is going to be a fit. Making sure we feel comfortable that the work ethic matches the confidence is vital.

The bonus is, it keeps the Bombers on their toes and makes the Tsatas dream feel like a possibility.

 

[Blackhawk42]

Soft spot for this guy. Anybody who can get drafted out of a country league has done something remarkable in my opinion. This one hits closer to home since I've played in the same league in the past.

Looks as though he's uploaded this himself as well which shows how much he wants it. Rumours are that he's attracting interest as high as the second round.

 

[Hazardinho]

I really think flying Phillipou and his Dad in has more to do with making sure the personality is going to be a fit. Making sure we feel comfortable that the work ethic matches the confidence is vital.

The bonus is, it keeps the Bombers on their toes and makes the Tsatas dream feel like a possibility.

You can have Tsatas.

 

[BIGHAWK23]

You can have Tsatas.

Seems like we are happy with either

Dons on the other hand

 

[Hawk the Talk]

You can have Tsatas.

Thanks

 

[TylerDurden]

Seems like we are happy with either

Dons on the other hand

Do we really think Saints will cough up a F1 to move up 6 spots in this draft? Absolute madness and desperation from Ross if true.

 

[Billyc]

INDIVIDUAL RANKINGS - NOVEMBER​

RANK	JORDAN PINTO	DAN BATTEN	CHRIS CAVANAGH
1	Will Ashcroft	Will Ashcroft	Will Ashcroft
2	Harry Sheezel	Harry Sheezel	George Wardlaw
3	Elijah Tsatas	George Wardlaw	Harry Sheezel
4	George Wardlaw	Aaron Cadman	Elijah Tsatas
5	Bailey Humphrey	Bailey Humphrey	Aaron Cadman
6	Aaron Cadman	Elijah Tsatas	Mattaes Phillipou
7	Mattaes Phillipou	Jhye Clark	Bailey Humphrey
8	Cam Mackenzie	Mattaes Phillipou	Reuben Ginbey
9	Jedd Busslinger	Cam Mackenzie	Jhye Clark
10	Jhye Clark	Reuben Ginbey	Cam Mackenzie
11	Reuben Ginbey	Jedd Busslinger	Ollie Hollands
12	Oliver Hollands	Oliver Hollands	Ed Allan
13	Henry Hustwaite	Matthew Jefferson	Jedd Busslinger
14	Matthew Jefferson	Lewis Hayes	Matt Jefferson
15	Ed Allan	Lachie Cowan	Jaspa Fletcher
16	Josh Weddle	Elijah Hewett	Lachlan Cowan
17	Olli Hotton	Olli Hotton	Josh Weddle
18	Brayden George	Henry Hustwaite	Olli Hotton
19	Jaspa Fletcher	Josh Weddle	Henry Hustwaite
20	Harry Barnett	Ed Allan	Lewis Hayes
21	Lewis Hayes	Jaspa Fletcher	Elijah Hewett
22	Elijah Hewett	Brayden George	Alwyn Davey Jnr
23	Sam Gilbey	Charlie Clarke	Charlie Clarke
24	Max Michalanney	Darcy Jones	Harry Rowston
25	Lachie Cowan	Harvey Gallagher	Max Michalanney
26	Jacob Konstanty	Alwyn Davey Jr	Jakob Ryan
27	Jaiden Magor	Harry Barnett	Brayden George
28	Jakob Ryan	Jacob Konstanty	Coby Burgiel
29	Alwyn Davey Jr	Harry Rowston	Jacob Konstanty
30	Darcy Jones	Max Gruzewski	Darcy Jones
31	Kaleb Smith	Mitch Szybkowski	Tom McCullum
32	Coby Burgiel	Jaxon Binns	Harry Barnett
33	Isaac Keeler	Isaac Keele	Isaac Keeler
34	Max Gruzewski	Jed Hagan	Max Gruzewski
35	Harry Lemmey	Sam Gilbey	Mitch Szybkowski
36	Adam D’Aloia	Coby Burgiel	Jaxon Binns
37	Jaxon Binns	Jason Gillbee	Jed Hagan
38	Toby McMullin	Jakob Ryan	Kaleb Smith
39	Billy Dowling	Jaiden Magor	Sam Gilbey
40	Charlie Clarke	Ethan Phillips	Noah Long
41	Blake Drury	Max Michalanney	Harvey Gallagher
42	Mitch Syzbkowski	Blake Drury	Adam D’Aloia
43	Harry Rowston	Tom McCallum	Blake Drury
44	Tom McCallum	Luke Teal	James Van Es
45	Harvey Gallagher	Hugh Bond	Luke Teal
46	Jason Gillbee	Noah Long	Anthony Munkara
47	Nick Sadler	James Van Es	Hugh Bond
48	Luke Teal	Cooper Vickery	Cooper Vickery
49	Jed Hagan	Adam D’Aloia	Harry Lemmey
50	Noah Long	Bailey Macdonald	Tom Scully

Thanks. Has there been a draft before where the guy who will probably go pick 1 is not widely viewed as a top 4 player in the draft?

I really can't see us overlooking Tsatas if he's there.

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

Do we really think Saints will cough up a F1 to move up 6 spots in this draft? Absolute madness and desperation from Ross if true.

Ross the Boss to go all Crazy Voss.

 

[Hodginator]

Can someone explain this essendon and Dodoro situation with Phillipou/Tsatas?

 

[MrPremiership]

6 more sleeps til the draft!

 

[Hawk the Talk]

Can someone explain this essendon and Dodoro situation with Phillipou/Tsatas?

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Dodo thinks he’s playing Chess while everyone else is playing Checkers… hopefully on draft night it turns out he was actually playing hungry hungry hippos

 

[TDS7]

Can someone explain this essendon and Dodoro situation with Phillipou/Tsatas?

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From what I can gather:

Dodo wants Phillipou more than Tsatas, but not by much. May still have Tsatas ahead, but thinks he can get some value.
Dodo thinks he can trade down in the draft to get some assets while still taking his man
Currently, St Kilda look like the best option for him at pick 9.

Hawthorn has pick 7.
Hawthorn may want Phillipou
If Dodo trades down past our pick and we pick Phillipou, they are a bit screwed.

Essendon now has a few options:
Take Tsatas/Humphrey at pick 5. Hawks get Humphrey/Tsatas or Phillipou.
Take Phillipou at 5. Hawks get Tsatas or Humphrey.
Trade pick 5 down past pick 7. Team who trades up likely takes Tsatas. Risk Hawthorn taking Phillipou and not getting a player you rate highly.
Trade pick 5 for pick 7. Essendon doesn't get a monster deal (Maybe WB F2) but guarantees they get Phillipou and a bit of value. Hawthorn get Tsatas (we only do this if we really want Tsatas or Humphrey).

 

[cryptor]

Can someone explain this essendon and Dodoro situation with Phillipou/Tsatas?

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If Essendon are playing games with us then the only thing that makes sense is them trying to make us think they're going to take the player we're most interested in. They'd be hoping we want whoever that is enough to trade up with a pick swap with Essendon and that their first pick still ends up slipping through.

For example, we might want Tsatas more than anyone we expect to be available and Essendon might rate Phillipou as best available. So if Essendon make out like they're going to select Tsatas they'd be hoping we'd trade them something sweet to swap our firsts. That way they get a bonus plus still get Phillipou if Suns don't take him.

Ultimately Essendon will pick whoever they want and we just have to hope that whoever is left is someone we (the club) rated higher than that spot in the draft.

 

[RIOLINWITPUNCHS]

Can someone explain this essendon and Dodoro situation with Phillipou/Tsatas?

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Put simply:

Dodo is spending more time trying to play mind games with other clubs than actually deciding which player he wants at #4.

 

[leathaleigh3]

Welcome to nginx!

Tsatas and Hotton would be insane
With Jones still available at our 2nd

I think we take jones before Hotton, kid is a jet

 

[FB19]

I think we take jones before Hotton, kid is a jet

If both there are 24 would strongly consider live trading pies pick 25 and get them both. Jones won’t get past eagles pick 26

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

Dodo thinks he’s playing Chess while everyone else is playing Checkers… hopefully on draft night it turns out he was actually playing headache

FTFY

 

[SunshineHawkCal]

With all this chat about Phillipou, Tsatas & Clark, you'd think MacKenzie and Ginbey are outside chances.

Aswell as Humphrey most likely moving to Goldy

 

[HomerJayS]

It seems there’s a bit more excitement this year on who we’ll get compared to last year. Is this correct? More talent this year?

 

[Gollum]

If both there are 24 would strongly consider live trading pies pick 25 and get them both. Jones won’t get past eagles pick 26

If we get a haul of Jones, Hotton and Tsatas I would be mighty pleased. An injection of pace and forward class which we desperately need. If Keeler somehow makes it to our third rounder I would be even happier

 

[cryptor]

With all this chat about Phillipou, Tsatas & Clark, you'd think MacKenzie and Ginbey are outside chances.

Aswell as Humphrey most likely moving to Goldy

Ginbey's name has popped up on here the least, so it's probably him.

 

[Fetnarr]

After all this chat It’s going to be amusing when we call McKenzie’s name on draft night


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[Billyc]

When does Twomey release his phantom? He's usually close to the mark in the first round, and at least generally reports which combination of players most clubs are interested in.

 

[Fetnarr]

Personally I’d be happy with any of Tsatas, Phillipou, Humphrey or McKenzie (or any of the slated top 4 if they happen to slide)If we take Clarke I’d understand why but would be less enthused by the decision. I want us to be bold. Also Phillipou being the youngest player in the pool is overstated. He is only 2 months younger than Tsatas.


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[smish]

It seems there’s a bit more excitement this year on who we’ll get compared to last year. Is this correct? More talent this year?

Last year from memory we were pretty much a shoe in for Ward at this stage, either that or there was speculation we’d trade up for Callaghan. Much more open this year