No Oppo Supporters 2022 General AFL Discussion

[scaryness]

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No Oppo Supporters - 2023 General AFLW Discussion

First week of AFLW already knee injuries galore

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[BloodySwan]

Norf supporters are of a view that JHF sooked it up most of the year & never wanted to be there.

North dealt with what we deal with every player we draft. I think they believed he would stay but as soon as things went sour Port were in his ear telling him how much of a rabble North are. In saying that North didn't help themselves either!

 

[Dubai Quacker]

North dealt with what we deal with every player we draft. I think they believed he would stay but as soon as things went sour Port were in his ear telling him how much of a rabble North are. In saying that North didn't help themselves either!

It was interesting to hear Dalrymple speak yesterday about how draftees are often coached re: what to say in interviews with recruiters & speak in cliches.
The art of the recruiter is therefore to get past that veneer and find out about the “real” individual.

Norf failed on that count.

But as caesar88 noted - they were in a bit of a no win position.

 

[scaryness]

AFL need to hand out one of their generous trade bans to protect Gold Coast from themselves

 

[scaryness]

Norf supporters are of a view that JHF sooked it up most of the year & never wanted to be there.

Why even have a draft

 

[Millky95]

Why even have a draft

Draft contracts 3 years min
Any player can be traded at any point of their contract to another club
Once a contract ends the player is a FA and can go anywhere they want with no trade
No FA compo

 

[Olian]

Why even have a draft

NRL don’t. Only two teams have gone back to back premiers in the last 30 years. Salary cap is the biggest equaliser.

 

[scaryness]

So in this one trade period all these players moved clubs

A 24 year old former #2 (Taranto)
A 24 year old former #8 (Logue)
A 20 year old former #12 (Bruhn)
A 21 year old former #3 (Jackson)
A 24 year old former #5 (Setterfield)
A 22 year old former #3 (Rankine)
A 19 year old former #1 (Horne-Francis)
A 24 year olf former #10 (Bowes)

Never try and hype me up about the value of draft picks ever again

 

[scaryness]

And Luke Jackson

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Luke Jackson

Age

23

Ht

199cm

Wt

102kg

Pos.

F/R

Career

Season

Last 5

D

8.3

2star

K

3.3

1star

HB

5.0

4star

M

1.5

2star

T

1.0

3star

G

0.3

3star

D

8.3

2star

K

3.3

1star

HB

5.0

3star

M

1.5

2star

T

1.0

2star

G

0.3

3star

D

8.3

3star

K

3.3

2star

HB

5.0

4star

M

1.5

2star

T

1.0

3star

G

0.3

3star

met with Fremantle and West Coast officials in the middle of the season while contracted for another club. I know he would not be the only one but this is rampant tampering.

'It felt right': Mid-season meeting sealed Jackson's desired move

Luke Jackson knew he wanted to join the Dockers after meeting with Justin Longmuir and Peter Bell in June

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Rants over, logging out again

 

[sataris]

NRL don’t. Only two teams have gone back to back premiers in the last 30 years. Salary cap is the biggest equaliser.

Roosters don't have a salary cap.

 

[sataris]

And Luke Jackson met with Fremantle and West Coast officials in the middle of the season while contracted for another club. I know he would not be the only one but this is rampant tampering.

'It felt right': Mid-season meeting sealed Jackson's desired move

Luke Jackson knew he wanted to join the Dockers after meeting with Justin Longmuir and Peter Bell in June

www.afl.com.au

Rants over, logging out again

I have no problem with meetings occuring mid-season.

I can talk to potential employers whenever I want.

 

[sataris]

No to be honest , that's only for the big stadiums

I'm interested in ground maintenance (I think it's fascinating).

How easy is it to maintain a surface? There's a stadium here in SG, where they just cannot keep the grass alive. (I suspect largely because the stadium orientation doesn't let the grass get any sun).

 

[Kapers]

So in this one trade period all these players moved clubs

A 24 year old former #2 (Taranto)
A 24 year old former #8 (Logue)
A 20 year old former #12 (Bruhn)
A 21 year old former #3 (Jackson)
A 24 year old former #5 (Setterfield)
A 22 year old former #3 (Rankine)
A 19 year old former #1 (Horne-Francis)
A 24 year olf former #10 (Bowes)

Never try and hype me up about the value of draft picks ever again

Wow, that is damning

 

[bedford]

I'm interested in ground maintenance (I think it's fascinating).

How easy is it to maintain a surface? There's a stadium here in SG, where they just cannot keep the grass alive. (I suspect largely because the stadium orientation doesn't let the grass get any sun).

What is SG please

 

[Kirkswan]

What is SG please

Singapore

 

[caesar88]

So in this one trade period all these players moved clubs

A 24 year old former #2 (Taranto)
A 24 year old former #8 (Logue)
A 20 year old former #12 (Bruhn)
A 21 year old former #3 (Jackson)
A 24 year old former #5 (Setterfield)
A 22 year old former #3 (Rankine)
A 19 year old former #1 (Horne-Francis)
A 24 year olf former #10 (Bowes)

Never try and hype me up about the value of draft picks ever again

I can't believe that anyone would even try to, when so many of our best players have come from outside the first round.

 

[Dubai Quacker]

I’m not sure what the point of GWS stockpiling draft picks is.

1. Draft top 10 players
2. Pay them stupid overs on long term deals to keep them beyond 2 years
3. Realise they’re not that good & try to offload them
4. Lose the rest to Carlton
5. Rinse, repeat.

 

[SwansProudly]

I’m not sure what the point of GWS stockpiling draft picks is.

1. Draft top 10 players
2. Pay them stupid overs on long term deals to keep them beyond 2 years
3. Realise they’re not that good & try to offload them
4. Lose the rest to Carlton
5. Rinse, repeat.

Amazing

 

[Millky95]

Amazing

Patton would have stayed if he didn't get so injured imo

Still time for Ash to leave

 

[Syd]

Amazing

Still time for Ash to move on

 

[Heeney2Franklin]

Amazing

Working as intended, GC and GWS have fueled Richmond and Geelong premierships.

 

[scaryness]

I have no problem with meetings occuring mid-season.

I can talk to potential employers whenever I want.

I guess when you put it like that I can't disagree.
American sports have (barely effective) rules for this sort of tampering so the AFL being so casual about this is weird.

Then again I really shouldnt be looking towards America when it comes to worker's rights.

 

[Mister B]

The fact that Bowes goes to Geelong with Pick 7, for a future 3rd round pick and it gets signed off is nothing short of a complete indictment on the league. What a ****ing joke.

and of course Geelong have the 1.6 million across 2 years space to cover the contract....

Yet we got trade restrictions for following the rules. Said it before, if I didn't love our club so much, I'd walk away from the sport.

 

[scaryness]

So in this one trade period all these players moved clubs

A 24 year old former #2 (Taranto)
A 24 year old former #8 (Logue)
A 20 year old former #12 (Bruhn)
A 21 year old former #3 (Jackson)
A 24 year old former #5 (Setterfield)
A 22 year old former #3 (Rankine)
A 19 year old former #1 (Horne-Francis)
A 24 year olf former #10 (Bowes)

Never try and hype me up about the value of draft picks ever again

Out of curiosity

Taranto trade:
Pick 2 2016 (2,517 points) for Pick 12 and 19 2022 (2,216)

GWS get -298 points
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Logue trade:
Pick 8 2016 (1,551) and Pick 27 2015 (703) for 2023 2nd and 2023 4th, and 2023 3rd swaps (~2,300 guess)

Fremantle get ~ +50
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Bruhn trade:
Pick 12 2020 (1,268) for pick 18 2022 (985)

GWS get -283
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Jackson trade:
Pick 3 2019 (2,234), pick 44 2022 (362) and pick 67 2022 (69) for pick 13 2022 (1,212) and 2023 1st and 2nd (~1,800)

Melbourne get ~ +347
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Setterfield trade:
Pick 5 2016 (1,878) and pick 68 (58) for 2023 4th (~170)

Carlton get ~ -1,750
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Rankine trade:
Pick 3 2018 (2,234), pick 46 (331) and 2023 4th (~80) for pick 5 (1,878) and 2023 3rd and 4th (~550)

Gold Coast get -217
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Horne-Francis trade:
Pick 1 2021 (3,000), pick 1 2022 (3,000) and 2023 3rd (~450) for pick 2 (2,517), pick 3 (2,234), pick 40 (429), pick 43 (378) and 2023 1st (~1,300)

North Melbourne get ~ +400
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Bowes trade:
Pick 10 2016 (1,395) and pick 7 2022 (1,644) for 2023 3rd (~250)

Gold Coast get ~ -2,789

 

[grimlock]

Why can’t we get in on the crazy trades GC are doing year after year. Do Geelong have incriminating pics of the GC list manager?

 

[Millky95]

Why can’t we get in on the crazy trades GC are doing year after year. Do Geelong have incriminating pics of the GC list manager?

Apparently its a repayment on getting Ablett back in 2011