2022 Hawthorn List Management Discussion (including Trade, FA period)

[WatWouldCyrilDo]

Who's the most likely to breakout of the following players?
Nash
Day
Bramble
DBG
Maginness
Brockman
Morris
Jeka
Seamus
Saunders
Stephens

Ramsden

 

[The hands of stone]

Had a vision today we were lining up against the Dons, Friday night at the G, r1. What would be the midfield match ups now?

R: Meek/ Reeves, Newcombe, Worpel, Ward/ Wingard vs
Draper, Merrett, Parish, Shiel/ Caldwell

Wings: Amon, Morrison/ Day vs
Perkins, Langford/ Cox

I reckon we'd compete well in that scenario.

If he is fit Stephens is a real smoky for round 1

 

[theiaofseed]

For those who missed Rob McCartney on SEN.

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I love the aggressive approach, we all moaned the late season wins specially last year(not that we barracked for loses).

There's always a fear when rebuilding that you just end up middling like the Saints currently, but resetting our list in two stages not only ensures an extended period down the bottom gaining access to elite talent but creates a balance age profile for the future.

25 x 1
24 x 3
23 x 5
22 x 2
21 x 4
20 x 3
19 x 3
18 x 1

Age profile for players that are in our top 26 players, the 24 and under age spread is brilliant.





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[Strapping Young Lad]

Interestingly or not, my youtube 'recommendations' sometimes throw up some old clips...and this one just came up from 2020.

 

[HappyHawk_1]

A few thoughts on our list management following the conclusion of the trade period:

Rob McCartney's interview was interesting - he identified that we have "10 players that we think can play in our next premiership... probably a couple more than that" - and then qualified that he wasn't talking about senior players who would support the younger players coming through (mentioning Bruest, Wingard, Sicily, Impey, Amon, Hardwick).

Going through our side, I drafted up a list of who I thought they may be thinking of - I'd have to think that they are thinking of the Under-25 crew given Hardwick is considered a senior player:

Players who McCartney mentioned individually: Newcombe, Ward, MacDonald, Moore, Day, CJ, Lewis, Reeves (8)
Additional players who I think he may be thinking of: Scrimshaw, MaGinness (2)

I wonder who else may fall into the bracket that Hawthorn genuinely believe are key pieces in our next premiership team - I would think Sam's got faith in Worpel, whilst I know Sam was dead keen on getting Blanck into the side from Box Hill - so wouldn't be surprised if those two are in that group or aren't far off.

On Mark McKenzie, he did come out and state emphatically that there was still the DFA period, and the draft. I'd have to think that we've got our eyes on someone/multiple people to pick up as a DFA - Stocker? Brown brothers? Narkle? Collier-Dawkins? (Poulter if he gets the arse?). Can't see anyone else worth taking a punt on... but for the love of god - please not Aarts...

 

[Blackhawk42]

Who's the most likely to breakout of the following players?
Nash
Day
Bramble
DBG
Maginness
Brockman
Morris
Jeka
Seamus
Saunders
Stephens

Day
DGB
Stephens

 

[The hands of stone]

Day
DGB
Stephens

Yep Day for me, just needs the full pre season with no injuries
Think we will see DGB spike in 2024 , probably another pre season away from it clicking

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

Ramsden

STOP RAMMATIME!

 

[Fleabane]

Ownership of the roles, I get it. They can play like it's their spot in the team and not feeling like they're just keeping a more senior players spot warm.

Similar idea behind the flattening of the leadership structure.

 

[TylerDurden]

 

[MasterSamurai]

For those who missed Rob McCartney on SEN.

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I don't think Rob's very good at this, just let Sam take the airwaves from here on.
Apparently Jaeger is fine, Yea after been told he can GO by the senior coach, and after he swiped the tears.

 

[AlwaysHawks15]

For those who missed Rob McCartney on SEN.

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Also stated we are not paying full salaries of both which was interesting. Makes the trades not sound anywhere near as bad from a neutral perspective really.

 

[DannyJ]

I think im counting 6 available spots (including Cat A rookies) if we keep Seamus and Saunders.

With 6,24,41,48,50,52 and 65 picks. Plus we'd want to keep a buffer of one spot for SPP/MSD and maybe a DFA is on the radar.

Hoping we can bundle 48,50,52, abd 65 into something meaningful.



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[eldorado]

I think im counting 6 available spots (including Cat A rookies) if we keep Seamus and Saunders.

Yep.

 

[AlwaysHawks15]

If he is fit Stephens is a real smoky for round 1

He is playing round 1. Were not trading for him to sit in the VFL when he came at the expense of Tom and Jaeger. All he needs to do is get through pre season unscathed.

 

[lyger]

A few thoughts on our list management following the conclusion of the trade period:

Rob McCartney's interview was interesting - he identified that we have "10 players that we think can play in our next premiership... probably a couple more than that" - and then qualified that he wasn't talking about senior players who would support the younger players coming through (mentioning Bruest, Wingard, Sicily, Impey, Amon, Hardwick).

Going through our side, I drafted up a list of who I thought they may be thinking of - I'd have to think that they are thinking of the Under-25 crew given Hardwick is considered a senior player:

Players who McCartney mentioned individually: Newcombe, Ward, MacDonald, Moore, Day, CJ, Lewis, Reeves (8)
Additional players who I think he may be thinking of: Scrimshaw, MaGinness (2)

I wonder who else may fall into the bracket that Hawthorn genuinely believe are key pieces in our next premiership team - I would think Sam's got faith in Worpel, whilst I know Sam was dead keen on getting Blanck into the side from Box Hill - so wouldn't be surprised if those two are in that group or aren't far off.

On Mark McKenzie, he did come out and state emphatically that there was still the DFA period, and the draft. I'd have to think that we've got our eyes on someone/multiple people to pick up as a DFA - Stocker? Brown brothers? Narkle? Collier-Dawkins? (Poulter if he gets the arse?). Can't see anyone else worth taking a punt on... but for the love of god - please not Aarts...

I think Denver would be another to be part of that group.

 

[Hawthorn2023]

Who's the most likely to breakout of the following players?
Nash
Day
Bramble
DGB
Maginness
Brockman
Morris
Jeka
Seamus
Saunders
Stephens

Bramble

 

[Dewyyyyy]

Interestingly or not, my youtube 'recommendations' sometimes throw up some old clips...and this one just came up from 2020.

Me too, popped up yesterday after the trade..

HAHAHA

 

[Dewyyyyy]

Does this count towards the supporter base too

hehehehehe

 

[The Chad and I]

Meek and Stephens are both likely to play a dozen or more games each next season.
+Second round pick in a highly rated draft in 2023.

That's not too bad for TOM/JOM given we signalled long ago that TOM was on the way out.
It's not ideal, but we're now in a position to reshape out midfield and have a couple of very good prospects.

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

I don't think Rob's very good at this, just let Sam take the airwaves from here on.
Apparently Jaeger is fine, Yea after been told he can GO by the senior coach, and after he swiped the tears.

Sam’s such a horrible person, not stopping Jaeger leaving to play at a finals club in his home state.

 

[theiaofseed]

Sam’s such a horrible person, not stopping Jaeger leaving to play at a finals club in his home state.

JOM needed to be told to stay then he already had one foot out the door.

 

[BurnaHawks]

Does anyone think Ramsden could be molded into a monster fullback?

 

[ahhhhhh]

Does anyone think Ramsden could be molded into a monster fullback?

No, he's a forward

 

[Ned Ryerson]

Does anyone think Ramsden could be molded into a monster fullback?

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