List Mgmt. 2022 List Management: Draft, Trade and FA

[Docker82]

My theory for the last few weeks is that Pearce, Aish and Acres are re-signed.

The club will just take their time announcing it.

All three were never in doubt tbh.

 

[WaywardSonSon]

WE WANT LOGIE BEAR!
WE WANT LOGIE BEAR!
WE WANT LOGIE BEAR!

 

[wakojako]

He's already contracted for next season, not as much rush on that one.

Yes but the club is trying atm

 

[Cobbler]

Ok. Where are we at as supporters if it has to be (assuming we attain Jackson):

A) get rid of Lobb keep Logue
B) get rid of Logue keep Lobb (+ 2 year extension)

I gather we can keep both or lose both and their deals may be dependent on cash or whatever BUT not what I'm asking.

Everything else being equal who would we rather keep?

Haters are going to hate, but I'll say keep Lobb and extend for 2 years. Reality is keep Logue and gather currency from Lobb leaving.

Can we keep both and grab Jackson?
Does someone else request out?
Does Kyrios win?

So many questions!

 

[WaywardSonSon]

Ok. Where are we at as supporters if it has to be (assuming we attain Jackson):

A) get rid of Lobb keep Logue
B) get rid of Logue keep Lobb (+ 2 year extension)

I gather we can keep both or lose both and their deals may be dependent on cash or whatever BUT not what I'm asking.

Everything else being equal who would we rather keep?

Haters are going to hate, but I'll say keep Lobb and extend for 2 years. Reality is keep Logue and gather currency from Lobb leaving.

Can we keep both and grab Jackson?
Does someone else request out?
Does Kyrios win?

So many questions!

F*ck Kyrgios!

Oh, and my preference would be to retain Logue, rather than Lobb, based on an assumption that Logue is more invested in the team and does not have a girlfriend who poses a flight risk. This is all conjecture of course! Haha

 

[ubiquitous226]

Ok. Where are we at as supporters if it has to be (assuming we attain Jackson):

A) get rid of Lobb keep Logue
B) get rid of Logue keep Lobb (+ 2 year extension)

I gather we can keep both or lose both and their deals may be dependent on cash or whatever BUT not what I'm asking.

Everything else being equal who would we rather keep?

Haters are going to hate, but I'll say keep Lobb and extend for 2 years. Reality is keep Logue and gather currency from Lobb leaving.

Can we keep both and grab Jackson?
Does someone else request out?
Does Kyrios win?

So many questions!

I think Lobb would make a bigger difference in the next 1-2 years, but realistically I think our best challenging period is 2-5 years so I'd prefer Logue.
Getting Amiss in the team for next couple of years will at least give us a target and hopefully set us up for a red hot crack at a flag in that 2-5 year period.

*none of this changes the fact we shouldn't be putting a ceiling on this year, we should consider ourselves in contention

 

[Docker79]

AP extension for 3 years

 

[Nickos66]

Ok. Where are we at as supporters if it has to be (assuming we attain Jackson):

A) get rid of Lobb keep Logue
B) get rid of Logue keep Lobb (+ 2 year extension)

I gather we can keep both or lose both and their deals may be dependent on cash or whatever BUT not what I'm asking.

Everything else being equal who would we rather keep?

Haters are going to hate, but I'll say keep Lobb and extend for 2 years. Reality is keep Logue and gather currency from Lobb leaving.

Can we keep both and grab Jackson?
Does someone else request out?
Does Kyrios win?

So many questions!

If Jackson's a fait accompli We have to let Lobb go - as is his wish.

I still don't like it - as i'm very happy with Darcy & Meek. And for a guy that'll command twice as much $$$ as Lobb next year, he won't kick as many goals as Lobb.

 

[rgauci]

Fyfe’s 1.3 million dollar contract ends 2023(?) I think. He’ll be negotiated down a lot. Unless he comes out flying next year, he’ll be in that 5-600k bracket. As Mundy put it, old man money.

I said it in another thread but;

Luke Jackson

9

Luke Jackson

Age

22

Ht

199cm

Wt

102kg

Pos.

F/R

Career

Season

Last 5

D

8.3

2star

K

3.3

1star

HB

5.0

4star

M

1.5

2star

T

1.0

3star

G

0.3

3star

D

8.3

2star

K

3.3

1star

HB

5.0

3star

M

1.5

2star

T

1.0

2star

G

0.3

3star

D

8.3

3star

K

3.3

2star

HB

5.0

4star

M

1.5

2star

T

1.0

3star

G

0.3

3star

, Angus Brayshaw

10

Angus Brayshaw

Age

28

Ht

188cm

Wt

90kg

Pos.

D/M

Career

Season

Last 5

D

19.7

5star

K

11.1

4star

HB

8.6

5star

M

3.7

4star

T

4.3

5star

MG

233.5

4star

D

15.5

4star

K

7.7

3star

HB

7.8

4star

M

2.0

2star

T

3.2

4star

MG

233.5

4star

D

11.4

3star

K

8.2

4star

HB

3.2

3star

M

3.4

4star

T

5.6

5star

this year…
Lobb extension for 2 years
Keep Logue
Get Shai Bolton

29

Shai Bolton

Age

25

Ht

176cm

Wt

77kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.3

3star

K

6.9

3star

HB

5.4

4star

M

2.8

3star

T

2.9

4star

CL

1.4

4star

D

12.7

3star

K

9.2

4star

HB

3.5

2star

M

3.0

3star

T

2.7

4star

CL

1.8

4star

D

9.2

3star

K

4.6

2star

HB

4.6

4star

M

2.0

3star

T

2.6

4star

CL

0.0

1star

end of 2023…

Flagmantle

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

Fyfe’s 1.3 million dollar contract ends 2023(?) I think. He’ll be negotiated down a lot. Unless he comes out flying next year, he’ll be in that 5-600k bracket. As Mundy put it, old man money.

I said it in another thread but;

Luke Jackson, Angus Brayshaw this year…
Lobb extension for 2 years
Keep Logue
Get Shai Bolton end of 2023…

Flagmantle

Unfortunately unlike other clubs, we seem to have a cap limit

 

[rgauci]

Unfortunately unlike other clubs, we seem to have a cap limit

We signed Brayshaw for 600k, well unders. I’m not sure we have over paid anyone at the moment. We’re in a good spot.

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

We signed Brayshaw for 600k, well unders. I’m not sure we have over paid anyone at the moment. We’re in a good spot.

Haha, there’s good spots and there’s adding over 2m of salary to your books per year while keeping your players

 

[Taylor]

Does anyone have any information on match fees for finals? I really do think there is an avenue here to pay our more fringe players, or senior players, a much higher proportion of the AFL paid money for finals in order to sign them for smaller salary cap figures.

 

[theGav56]

Now we just need Ryan to sign!

What happened to your inside info on Pearce? And why do you suddenly seem optimistic about Ryan signing?

 

[Sweetback]

Unfortunately unlike other clubs, we seem to have a cap limit

Surely if any of the players are looking to build a home, Dale would have some sweeteners in place for them?

 

[malpaso]

I'm expecting Meek to get a significant offer from some other club (don't expect him to stay if Jackson comes), obviously that ups our compensation. Would love to see a 1 year deal so we could actually sign and trade him.

This is on the expectation we pick up Jackson and Lobb goes. We then need to sign a journeyman ruck to play at Peel. Also I think Treacy is an ideal 25% ruck.

So we end up with in terms of ruck/forwards:

- Lobb, Meek
+ Darcy, Jackson, Journeyman, Treacy?

Big negative on Forward ability however youth is on our side and Jackson/Treacy only get better up there.

 

[mike91]

Anyone got the latest Herald Sun trade article about Logue and Jesse Motlop? Probably bs, but curious

 

[wakojako]

What happened to your inside info on Pearce? And why do you suddenly seem optimistic about Ryan signing?

You misunderstood me bud. My inside info was for Ryan. With Pearce I just agreed with the general consensus that should Tassie create a team, he would be a risk to join them. As other people have pointed out, a Tassie team is years away therefore helping us to secure Pearce. The only thing you should take away from my comment is that while Ryan is a flight risk, there is nothing to suggest he will be requesting a trade. I'm sure this discussion will arise again when we get to the end of his current contract.

 

[Dump Truck]

I'm expecting Meek to get a significant offer from some other club (don't expect him to stay if Jackson comes), obviously that ups our compensation. Would love to see a 1 year deal so we could actually sign and trade him.

This is on the expectation we pick up Jackson and Lobb goes. We then need to sign a journeyman ruck to play at Peel. Also I think Treacy is an ideal 25% ruck.

So we end up with in terms of ruck/forwards:

- Lobb, Meek
+ Darcy, Jackson, Journeyman, Treacy?

Big negative on Forward ability however youth is on our side and Jackson/Treacy only get better up there.

I believe Meek has 1 year left

 

[Fred Ziffel]

We would have put money aside for Cerra that we didn't need. Lobb wants out. That frees up the money for Jackson.

We lost the 2013 GF because Zach Clarke was crap and Hawthorn were able to double team Pav. Many beleive if Kepler or even Jonathon Griffin were available we would have won.

If you get the chance to recruit a 199cm match winner you take it IMO.

Subbing Zac out in the final qtr is what killed us.
Ballas should have been subbed out. We needed another tall in the forward line to draw Lake away from those uncontested marks he was gobbling up.
BTW that was the worst Norm Smith medal decision in history.

 

[Gimme the Fyfe]

I still have a gripe with that blatant tactical medical sub used by Collingwood.

That goggley-eyed Cox has a shit game, comes off with a sore finger and replaced by a forward that boots three goals.

This medical sub rule needs to get looked at.

 

[ignoramus]

I still have a gripe with that blatant tactical medical sub used by Collingwood.

That goggley-eyed Cox has a s**t game, comes off with a sore finger and replaced by a forward that boots three goals.

This medical sub rule needs to get looked at.

Absolutely. Just last week, for instance, a player got subbed out for "hamstring awareness" and this week he's straight back in without a blink of an eye.

 

[ImperialPurple]

I still have a gripe with that blatant tactical medical sub used by Collingwood.

That goggley-eyed Cox has a s**t game, comes off with a sore finger and replaced by a forward that boots three goals.

This medical sub rule needs to get looked at.

My feeling is that maybe if a player is subbed out they should miss the next week. If an injury is bad enough to have to come out of the game it’s bad enough to need a week’s rehab. While it will unfortunately catch a few legit ones (like Tabs last week being ok for this week), it might stop clubs abusing the rule. Yes that would mean Tabs would be unavailable this week, but so be it. Maybe allow them to play at the lower level if they are magically over the injury that put them out in the first place.

 

[mattis117]

Absolutely. Just last week, for instance, a player got subbed out for "hamstring awareness" and this week he's straight back in without a blink of an eye.

At least in our instance it most certainly wasn't advantageous to execute that sub...

 

[Taylor]

The rule says that if the doctor believes the injury would keep a player out for 12 days then they can sub.