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But people don’t watch the A League in sufficient numbers for the magic of the eyeballs to become a factor here in Australia and that doesn’t look like changing anytime soon.
For years, vocal soccer fans and commentators/journos have consistently defended these groups and downplayed their behaviours (e.g. lighting and throwing numerous flares) whilst lambasting security and the owners and management of the teams who have tried to prevent these actions and attacking any media that shows such conduct. It's only encouraged these young men to feel more aggrieved and justified in their actions.
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For years, vocal soccer fans and commentators/journos have consistently defended these groups and downplayed their behaviours (e.g. lighting and throwing numerous flares) whilst lambasting security and the owners and management of the teams who have tried to prevent these actions and attacking any media that shows such conduct. It's only encouraged these young men to feel more aggrieved and justified in their actions.
Have a look at the Original Style Melbourne Instagram page. It's full of the glorification of flares and the obscuring of member's faces. The APL and the Victory need to permanently ban them from every attending matches.
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Yes, another poor crowd of only 7074 at Marvel last night makes you wonder if the BBL is beyond redemption?
The guys behind the pitch invasion had planned to the detail to carry out the action. The police were outside waiting for them instead of around the pitch. I suspect something bigger than soccer here - Those incidents are very common in Poland, Hungary etc etc and they are political.
Yeah, exactly. A big part of Australian soccer’s problem is the need to position itself as the victim at every opportunity, leaving it less likely to deal with its own issues.For years, vocal soccer fans and commentators/journos have consistently defended these groups and downplayed their behaviours (e.g. lighting and throwing numerous flares) whilst lambasting security and the owners and management of the teams who have tried to prevent these actions and attacking any media that shows such conduct. It's only encouraged these young men to feel more aggrieved and justified in their actions.
Have a look at the Original Style Melbourne Instagram page. It's full of the glorification of flares and the obscuring of member's faces. The APL and the Victory need to permanently ban them from ever attending matches.
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Yeah, exactly. A big part of Australian soccer’s problem is the need to position itself as the victim at every opportunity, leaving it less likely to deal with its own issues.
Where will the money come from? After World Cup euphoria, Australian football confronts harsh reality
With less money to be earned through TV deals than rival codes, grassroots football is increasingly funded through sky-high registration fees that lock out disadvantaged familieswww.theguardian.com
Take this article last week in the Guardian, much of it made up of the author whingeing about how soccer doesn’t get the Government money that its entitled to. He references the Australian Sports Commission funding allocations “The 2021-22 Australian Sports Commission annual report showed how far funding for football lags behind other sports, with athletics, basketball, cycling, hockey, sailing and swimming all receiving greater financial support.”
The chart below shows the funding he’s complaining about: I’ve highlighted in red team sports played professionally in Australia.
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You’d think that anyone looking at that could only conclude that soccer (alongside basketball) is doing pretty f**king well, at least when it comes to ASC funding, particular since Australian Football, Cricket and Rugby League get basically nothing. But, since objective reality is no match for Australian soccer’s grievance mindset, those numbers are taken to demonstrate how horribly mistreated soccer is. The soccer journalist looks at this and goes, “See? We never get nothin’”.
Of course this sense of victimhood just deprives soccer of the opportunity to clean up its act. The article’s main complaint is that kids are charged a lot to play to soccer in Australia. The fact that local soccer clubs use junior fees to finance payments for mediocre senior players apparently is not relevant (it doesn't crack a mention). Nor is the fact that soccer has failed to do what Australian Football (and I assume Cricket at RL) have done to prevent this sort of thing: impose salary caps. A journalist covering these issues might actually result in healthier spending habits at the lower levels of Australian soccer. But forget that. It’s the Government’s fault, coz, “AFL gets everything”.
The same grievance-peddling makes it hard for them to deal with active support issues. Following Saturday night, it’s pretty clear they’re going to need to more tightly regulate those active areas (probably including fully ticketed matches, smaller active areas etc). You can be sure that when they do, the likes of Simon Hill will once again start complaining at the mistreatment of Aleague fans. “They're treated like criminals”, “We need to stop pandering to the mainstream media – they don’t understand ‘football culture’”, “It’s the AFL’s fault”, “Enough with the stereotyping.” Telling those active supporters to grow up and accept that a significant police/security presence is necessary might actually help. Regardless, the problems will be located elsewhere.
Dude, if the AFL releasing a fixture had the slightest impact at all on the biggest match in 7 years, just put the sport to bed already.I mean, the biggest match in Aussie soccer for the last 7 years and the HS/AFL just happen to release the 1st round of the AFL season right when the match was being played. A lot of people, not just soccer fans, were puzzled by that.
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'Pathetic' AFL blasted for 'disappointing' decision
Attempt to distract from Soccerooswwos.nine.com.au
The fact that the APL is at war and fighting a PR campaign to save their skins means anything they say should be taken with a pinch of salt. They cant keep their story straight atm. new tradition was the first one they tried.
And what does the amount of goals scored mean anything regarding ad breaks in soccer!!!!!!! The fact there can be no goals scored is not the reason for any ad breaks in soccer. It is a different style of play. As Ange said, we stop at half time and we stop at the end of the match. But during the game, we dont stop. So no set breaks for ads. Has nothing to do with goals. This wouldnt matter if the a-league could get decent ratings in the first place.
If you going to have a go for soccer for not having any goals, at least try to make it reasonable, or make sense.
Really good points. Thank you.Yeah, exactly. A big part of Australian soccer’s problem is the need to position itself as the victim at every opportunity, leaving it less likely to deal with its own issues.
Where will the money come from? After World Cup euphoria, Australian football confronts harsh reality
With less money to be earned through TV deals than rival codes, grassroots football is increasingly funded through sky-high registration fees that lock out disadvantaged families
Take this article last week in the Guardian, much of it made up of the author whingeing about how soccer doesn’t get the Government money that its entitled to. He references the Australian Sports Commission funding allocations “The 2021-22 Australian Sports Commission annual report showed how far funding for football lags behind other sports, with athletics, basketball, cycling, hockey, sailing and swimming all receiving greater financial support.”
The chart below shows the funding he’s complaining about: I’ve highlighted in red team sports played professionally in Australia.
View attachment 1575538
You’d think that anyone looking at that could only conclude that soccer (alongside basketball) is doing pretty f**king well, at least when it comes to ASC funding, particular since Australian Football, Cricket and Rugby League get basically nothing. But, since objective reality is no match for Australian soccer’s grievance mindset, those numbers are taken to demonstrate how horribly mistreated soccer is. The soccer journalist looks at this and goes, “See? We never get nothin’”.
Of course this sense of victimhood just deprives soccer of the opportunity to clean up its act. The article’s main complaint is that kids are charged a lot to play to soccer in Australia. The fact that local soccer clubs use junior fees to finance payments for mediocre senior players apparently is not relevant (it doesn't crack a mention). Nor is the fact that soccer has failed to do what Australian Football (and I assume Cricket at RL) have done to prevent this sort of thing: impose salary caps. A journalist covering these issues might actually result in healthier spending habits at the lower levels of Australian soccer. But forget that. It’s the Government’s fault, coz, “AFL gets everything”.
The same grievance-peddling makes it hard for them to deal with active support issues. Following Saturday night, it’s pretty clear they’re going to need to more tightly regulate those active areas (probably including fully ticketed matches, smaller active areas etc). You can be sure that when they do, the likes of Simon Hill will once again start complaining at the mistreatment of Aleague fans. “They're treated like criminals”, “We need to stop pandering to the mainstream media – they don’t understand ‘football culture’”, “It’s the AFL’s fault”, “Enough with the stereotyping.” Telling those active supporters to grow up and accept that a significant police/security presence is necessary might actually help. Regardless, the problems will be located elsewhere.
fairly certain I gave a source there and showcased it was a general feeling among the sports media.
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The modern sports world is all about giving athletes international exposure and for Australian athletes apart from the Olympics there is the Commonwealth games and the Asian games
